User talk:BLPWatchBot
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[edit] Bug checks and enhancements
[edit] Resolved
Stuff that's considered, to discuss:
- Bot needs to run monitoring in a basic version, during approval for other functions.
- "Blpwatch" in an edit summary causes bot to load page and check for tagging?
- Log file location?
- Consider a regular !reset synchronization (8 hourly??) to catch up any missed tags
- Clarify on help page if <article> is with or without [[...]] and the format and scope of edit id's
- Dump format - wikitable sortable.
FT2 (Talk | email) 13:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- Category shows 2 items; bot after !reset reports 3 then "done"
- Delisting User:FT2/Snips has not been reported, nor has editing to Hal Turner.
Is it picking up the RC feed?? FT2 (Talk | email) 21:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
1. Slight bug, but, a bug nonetheless. Could possibly be abused in some fashion.
[04:24:20] <SQLDb> *test* [[Max Mosley]] Foo! [04:24:22] BLPWatchBot ◊ #9: *test* [[Max Mosley]] Foo!
HTH! SQLQuery me! 08:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
2. Also this happened:
[!info User:FT2] <BLPWatchBot> User:FT2 not tagged. [I tagged my user page] <BLPWatchBot> #15: [[User:FT2]] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:FT2&diff=202501920&oldid=202499191 * FT2 * (+31) test tagging this
(reported the tagging edit somehow, even though supposedly not being watched)
FT2 (Talk | email) 08:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- It is capable of watching a page that has been !added if the page does not have a tag. !info would not report if that is true. This should be considered a feature, not a bug.
3. And this:
<FT2> !info <BLPWatchBot> Watching 5 articles. !reset to reload category. Commandlist: !tag <article> <template>; !untag <article>; !revert <id>; !redate <article>; !reason <article> <newreason>; !info <article>; Maintainer: ST47 <FT2> !info User:FT2 <BLPWatchBot> User:FT2 not tagged. <BLPWatchBot> #15: [[User:FT2]] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:FT2&diff=202501920&oldid=202499191 * FT2 * (+31) test tagging this <BLPWatchBot> #16: [[User:FT2]] M http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:FT2&diff=202501999&oldid=202501920 * FT2 * (-31) detag <BLPWatchBot> [[User:FT2]] has had the BLPwatch template removed. <FT2> !add User:FT2 <BLPWatchBot> Done. <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: <FT2> !info <BLPWatchBot> Watching 6 articles. !reset to reload category. Commandlist: !tag <article> <template>; !untag <article>; !revert <id>; !redate <article>; !reason <article> <newreason>; !info <article>; Maintainer: ST47 <FT2> !add User:FT2 <BLPWatchBot> Done. <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: <FT2> !info <BLPWatchBot> Watching 7 articles. !reset to reload category. Commandlist: !tag <article> <template>; !untag <article>; !revert <id>; !redate <article>; !reason <article> <newreason>; !info <article>; Maintainer: ST47 <FT2> interesting
See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BLPWatchBot/dump&oldid=202502413
FT2 (Talk | email) 08:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
4.
- "Blpwatch" in an edit summary picked up and article added to bots list if needed?
- On startup, is the list of detected adds/removes posted to channel?
- Auto-synch check (!reset) every (typically 8) hours as an option? Ie, if its > 8 hrs since last reset, it posts "synchronizing..." and executes a !reset (which will post "done" when complete). To trap accidentally omitted matters. Or not needed/bot won't miss things once running?? FT2 (Talk | email) 08:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
5.
- Can surrounding [[...]] in article names be removed if present? As someone's bound to paste them! :)
- Can !dump say "Done - <link>"
- Just edited Hal Turner again, bot didnt report the edit.
- After startup or reset, the message simply reads "Removed since last run". Can this be expanded:
Checking for pages added or removed since last run... Found addition: <pagelink> Found addition: <pagelink> Found addition: <pagelink> Found removal: <pagelink> -- PLEASE CHECK VALIDITY OF DETAGGING! ..... (Or: "None", if none) Bot successfully synchronized to wiki, commencing monitoring.
(and yes the caps are intentional! So are the links - allows easy clicking.)
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- Reopen? Messages need to be clearer somehow. These aren't errors but items needing specific attention and checking when they happen, and messages that are a bit confusing. Even just "Checking for pages added/removed since last run:" and "None" (if none were found) + "Commencing monitoring", would help.
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- Strange dialog:
<FT2> !add User:ST47 <BLPWatchBot> Done. <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run:
- Perhaps the above will fix or clarify this too.
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- Reopen? Then needs to be more clear is all? "Checking for pages added/removed since last run: None." would be clear enough.
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- odd message: "<BLPWatchBot> Edit summary of contained blpwatch, but template is not present."
<BLPWatchBot> Edit summary of contained blpwatch, but template is not present. <BLPWatchBot> Edit summary of contained blpwatch, but template is not present. <BLPWatchBot> Edit summary of contained blpwatch, but template is not present. <User> What does this mean?
- This sequence is also problematic: the bot reports articles as new that are already reported:
<FT2> !reset <BLPWatchBot> Done. <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: <BLPWatchBot> Added since last run: Ashley Alexandra Dupré, Don Murphy, Hal Turner, Max Mosley, Rachel Marsden, Sally Kern, <FT2> !reset <BLPWatchBot> Done. <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: <BLPWatchBot> Added since last run: Ashley Alexandra Dupré, Don Murphy, Hal Turner, Max Mosley, Rachel Marsden, Sally Kern,
- Query: originally I set up the template with "date=xxxx". But probably in hindsight, that parameter should be changed from "date=" to "from=". Date is inherently ambiguous as to whether it means start or end date. Long term, before people get too used to it, this would probably be helpful for clarity.
- !reset only seems to respond if given in lowercase.
- !dump query - is a new dump always saved? What about if the list hasn't changed? It seems if a dump won't be saved, which would be fine, but in that case can "Done. <URL>" be replaced by "Done. No changes. Old dump is at <URL>." ?
- BAG trial approval mods --
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- making edits is permitted for the trial period.
- Context splitting or tracking down the issue (stated by SQL to be important)
- Edit summary of any edits (not just reverts!) to state "This bot is being trialled as a way to help watch "at risk" BLPs. [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BLPWatchBot#Bot trial|Comments welcomed]]."
- Ease of use formatting - are the following two possible for output?
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- Reorder information and add visual cues:
<BLPWatchBot> #6: [[Sally Kern]] AMK1211 (+557) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sally_Kern&diff=202986491&oldid=202939828 [[WP:UNDO|Undid]] revision 202927709 by [[Special:Contributions/Netkinetic|Netkinetic]] ([[User talk:Netkinetic|talk]])
It's not perfect but it's better than at present and on a quick try, the best I can do.
- Reorder information and add visual cues:
- Using blpwatch in an edit summary didn't result in any action. Bot should report all of these, followed (as with removals) by a 2nd line: [[Page]] checked and found to [be/not be] tagged. Article [will/will not] be monitored.:
<BLPWatchBot> #4: [[page]] <difflink> * FT2 * (+330) test of blpwatch in edit summary <BLPWatchBot> [[Page]] checked and found to NOT be tagged. Article will NOT be monitored. <orange>EDIT SUMMARY
- After startup category checking, a simple "Commencing monitoring" message would be nice. Also for the !reset and startup reports, removing "!" from "Done!" messages too.
- This sequence is confusing and disturbing:
- All other tagged pages were reported correctly when the template was edited. Left for you to figure why this one wasn't.
- For some reason it reported edits to non-tagged pages:
- This edit [5] and then !reset led to: <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: Template:Blpwatch,
- This edit [6] and !reset led to: <BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/BLPWatch,
- !Tag command syntax: "!tag page {{< optional "blpwatch<whitespace>|"> < optional "from<whitespace>=" > MM/YYYY | < optional "reason<whitespace>=" > REASON}}" It can automatically add the rest of the template.
- !redate/!reason/!untag a non-tagged name or non-existent article says "Done"
- !redate/!reason an existing but untagged article doesn't do the action (good!), but reports "Done"
- !reason seems to fail: <FT2> !reason Rachel Marsden test2
- !info states: "Rachel Marsden tagged. Parameters: blpwatch | date=04/2008 | reason=Per DRV." not "From".
- !revert (bad number) -> "<BLPWatchBot> Revert on attempted per FT2"
[edit] Open
- Piped link clarity: replace instances of "[[PAGE LINK|TEXT]]" by "[[PAGE LINK|TEXT]]"
- Edit summaries need updating:
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- !revert <narrative> edit summary: "Reverted by [[User:Example|Username]] using [[User:BLPWatchBot|BLPWatchBot]]: <narrative> (Bot being trialled, [[WP:BRFA-BLPWatchBot|comments welcome]])"
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- Trim the <narrative> if there is overflow! Total length of narrative should be at most, 200 - ([length of 1st part] + [length of last part])
- !tag edit summary: "Tagged for BLPWatch by [[User:BLPWatchBot|BLPWatchBot]] by request of <name>. Stated reason is "<reason>". (Bot being trialled, [[WP:BRFA-BLPWatchBot|comments welcome]])"
- !redate edit summary: "Restarted monitoring for BLPWatch by request of <name>. Stated start date is <from>. (Bot being trialled, [[WP:BRFA-BLPWatchBot|comments welcome]])"
- !reason edit summary: "Updated BLPWatch monitoring reason by request of <name>. New reason: "reason" (Bot being trialled, [[WP:BRFA-BLPWatchBot|comments welcome]])"
- and "user" in edit summary should be Wiki-account link if applicable, else "nice formatted" irc name "name (a!b@c)".
- Its own edits should be visible via its own reports. (Either not filtered out, or some other means to check they went through.)
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Fixed It's filtered out to limit spam. That filter has been removed for the time being. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Recheck - !reason, !tag, !redate, !untag etc and other commands causing edits, don't get reflected in the channel for verification. (I do have a thought on this, talk some time... :) )
- Typing !revert <number> twice for the same (valid) number, the 2nd time doesn't report properly.
- Explicit "color=1" needed before: "#nnn: Page user (+0)"
- !info syntax for !reason is probably inaccurate. Should be "!reason <article name> reason=<new reason>". Plus, debug check, what happens if you try to tag and then !reason Kant's "A Critique of Pure Reason"?
- !redate and !reason didn't work, though !tag and !untag did. Commands tried:
<FT2> !tag User:FT2 {{blpwatch| from=04/2008|reason = test2}}
<BLPWatchBot> Done.
<BLPWatchBot> Removed since last run:
<FT2> !redate User:FT2 03/2008
<BLPWatchBot> Done.
<FT2> !reason user:FT2 reason=reason change text
<BLPWatchBot> Done.
<FT2> !untag user:FT2
<BLPWatchBot> Done.
Page history shows an untag and tag only...
- Unicode bug again:
<FT2-away> !info Ashley Alexandra Dupré <BLPWatchBot> Ashley Alexandra Dupr� not tagged.
- However edits to this article are being correctly reported - it's more commands like info, and possibly tag/untag etc that might not.
- Attempt to !tag a protected page says "successful" but isn't. It's not checking the RC feed to verify. May affect other commands.
- TO CHECK: 1/ does the bot handle a malformed tag (eg no closing "}}" or missing data) or more than one tag in an article; 2/ !revert (once narrative fixed)
[edit] Edit summary
The link to Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BLPWatchBot in the edit summary can probably be removed now. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 09:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
