Talk:Bloody Mary (cocktail)

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[edit] Sources

I removed some notifications that sources are needed for the variations in this article. In early 2007, all the variations were verified using several external sites. Those sites were included in the external links section. They have since been removed, probably because someone thought they were spam links or something. As a result, there are no longer any links to those helpful sites included. It's kind of a no-win situation. If the sources are provided, it's considered spamming, and if they are removed, then the article is unsourced. This is a common problem for many of the WikiProject Mixed Drinks articles. Any suggestions? Thanks. --Willscrlt (Talk) 05:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shot

Actually, there is also a shot version of Bloody Mary. As with the mix, the miscellaneous peppers etc. can be added according to the drinker's taste, but it is important that the vodka would be poured on the spicy tomato juice carefully as not to mix the two layers; this way, if drunk as a shot, tomato and spices wipe out most of the harsh taste of vodka. I can't say how widespread this version is, but it is somewhat known in the North-Eastern Europe. --Oop 21:56, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

There is another version: replace the tomato juice with blood. It makes the drink more authentic. Scott Gall 03:16, 13 November 2005 (UTC) PS: How did they come up with using tomato juice in the first place?
Because blood doesn't have the right taste, and would have to be free of disease (I'm glad I wasn't in Romania when the H5N1 virus killed a few birds there, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use mine :-),) removed possibly by means of those things they have at the blood donor clinics, and pH balanced and all. [[User:NazismIsntCool|

Nazism isn't cool]] 03:25, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sherry

Has anyone else heard of Sherry being used as a Bloody Mary ingredient? There is no mention of it in the article. There again, this cocktail undoubtedly has one of the most widely varying recipes in existence! --Arawn c 15:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

el Pariente estuvo aqui plebes.. traguen vodka alo pendejo.. !! rato(8) saLudos paL basher1 rato(8)!!

[edit] Variant

The Rev. Horton Heat ran out of tomato juice one night and invented the "Bloody Leroy" by substituting barbecue sauce. ~ Ray

[edit] eh...

"When beer is used instead of vodka and Clamato (a juice made of clam broth and tomato juice) mixed with a raw egg is used in place of the tomato juice, it is known as a Calgary Red Eye, a popular Canadian hangover remedy. "

Yea, and if you replace the vodka with irish whiskey, change the tomato juice for coffee, salt for sugar, and put cream on top it's called a irish coffe. That was completley unrellevant and unnecesery. So is the statement over... -Underage Bartender —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.166.240.164 (talk) 21:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC).


the quote above is a bit confusing & misleading a traditonal "red eye" does contain tomato juice and vodka ( the classic tom cruise movie "cocktail" will attest to this as will any googd bartender. A red eye is basically a bloody mary topped up with beer and the raw egg added at the end. the idea is that the egg will supply your body with all the nutrients your body has lost while you were drinking. The egg is cooked by the vodka and the beer allowing you to safley consume raw egg. However you should always be extremly carefull when using raw ingredients you dont want to give a yourself, a friend or a customer severe food poisoning. i can see where the other person was coming from with the irish coffe comment but a red eye is closely related to the bloody mary and was relevant. Even if he did have a obscure/wrong recipe ~ kev

[edit] Impressive!

I haven't visited this page for a good while, but it has improved greatly in the past few months! Was it a weekly collaboration for the Mixed Drinks Wikiproject? Hojimachong 06:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. There have probably been many edits by a variety of people since that time. I did do a major cleanup and reorganization of the page on New Year's Eve as part of the WikiProject's overall cleanup emphasis (which runs through the end of February). We would love additional Project Participants if you are ever interested in helping in any way. Thanks again for the compliment. :-) --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 15:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BBC Balderdash & Piffle

Bloody Mary featured on the "Who were they" episode 2007-07-02 of BBC2's Balderdash & Piffle and the Oxford English Dictionary has revised it's entry for bloody mary to include the citation that has been on this page for a while: 1939 N.Y. Herald Tribune 2 Dec. 9/2 George Jessel's newest pick-me-up which is receiving attention from the town's paragraphers is called a *Bloody Mary: half tomato juice, half vodka.

K9ine 23:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin

Popped into wikilink and found myself running off to read more about it (not unusual, I'm afraid). I found an entertaining blog entry by Barry Popik, contributor-consultant of the OED and several other impressive references, including the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America (2004). He quotes extensively from Jessel's book how the Bloody Mary came to be invented and named. You all may already know all about it, but I didn't see it mentioned here and thought I'd share.  :) Moonriddengirl 20:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

From what I understand there is a figure during the Protestant Reformation who came to be known as Bloody Mary. Any connection to this drink? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.192.102 (talk) 05:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lime?

Seen it many times. In fact I prefer it to lemon. Add? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.149.33 (talk) 18:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

==Popular culture]] Removed the following section per WP:Trivia 74.72.91.209 18:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture

  • In the film South Pacific, the song "Bloody Mary" refers to the character Bloody Mary, a native trader.
  • In the film The Royal Tenenbaums, Richie Tenenbaum regularly drinks Bloody Marys.
  • In the film Withnail And I, Monty drinks a number of "Rhesus-negative" Bloody Marys.
  • On the television show The Jeffersons, Mother Jefferson regularly drank Bloody Marys.
  • In the novel Bridget Jones's Diary, Bridget and her friends have an unhealthy obsession with Bloody Marys in the afternoon.

Might I suggest adding a quick explanation of a "Rhesus-negative" Bloody Mary, as it is a rather unusual term? --J.StuartClarke (talk) 03:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parts, customers, celery

This might be pedantic, but what's with the 3 parts and 6 parts in the recipe? Wouldn't it make sense to reduce this to 1:2? 3 and 6 might make sense if you were talking about some absolute quantity like ounces, but in light of the fact that there's no other reference to parts, shouldn't this be reduced?

Also, this part raises a question:

In the 1960s it became popular to serve the cocktail with celery due to a guest at The Pump Room at the "Ambassador East Hotel" in Chicago.

What does this mean, "due to a guest?" Did the guest ask for celery? Did he add it himself? Was he rude and the bartender shoved it into his mouth to shut him up?

Quag7 16:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change?

"May be shaken vigorously or stirred lazily, as desired."

I'm not one to complain, and this is witty, but I don't think it's encyclopedic exactly... 71.55.55.31 (talk) 09:30, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official preppy drink?

I don't know if this is widely associated with WASPs or not, but I don't think this: "It is the official alcoholic beverage of the Preppy lifestyle according to Lisa Birnbach's Official Preppy Handbook from the 1980s." should be in the opening paragraph. Perhaps a different section about regions of popularity or something?

69.112.164.135 (talk) 02:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm deleting it. It's more horrible pop culture fluff that WP could do without. --JD79 (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)