Talk:Blood Diamond (film)

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- Changed the release date to Dec. 15th, not Dec. 18th. (Friday instead of Monday). My proof/justification for this is various movie release websites & also the fact that common practice has movies very rarely released on a monday.

Contents 1 Title 2 Plot 3 Controversy 4 Plot too short 5 Cast 6 Language 7 De Beers Group 8 Anachronisms etc. 9 Weapon used by DiCaprio 10 Danny Archer's Clothing & Equipment 11 WikiProject class rating 12 Fair use rationale for Image:Blooddiamondposter.jpg 13 Archer or Aocher ?

[edit] Title

I see many sites and magazines (such as Entertainment Weekly) refer to this film as simply Blood Diamond. Is there any official word from the WB on whether it's called THE Blood Diamond or just Blood Diamond? Gunslinger 01:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

I cut the plot down by about half. Couldn't cull anything more though without losing too much detail, I thought. Let me know what you think though! .--nicolae_brocolae 10:35, 09 January 2007 (EST)

DId Archer Die?? It doent say, it just shows him there an after he make the final phone call it doesn't show him again! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Realg187 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

He must be died !?--Max Mayr 16:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

--- I changed the time frame back to 1999, I dont know who keeps changing that to 1994. The movie takes place during the Sierra Leone civil war, not the start of it. Freetown was captured in 1999. Don't change it again. - rgrDknob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.88.211 (talk) 18:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

While I agree that De Beers must be mentioned, I have reservations about the comment "De Beers makes more money on Blood Diamonds than any other business in the world regardless of that number being 1% or 4%. De Beers is most deserving of the term "making a killing" off of the diamond market." Comments? --Stretch 09:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I would encourage people to simply remove such astoundingly bad statements rather than merely raising a question on the talk page. You were right to question it, but please do not hesitate to go further. Accurate sourcing is crucial.--Jimbo Wales 03:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

There is new site on this www.diamondfacts.org that I saw the other day. Lots of content on Blood Diamonds. Afterwards, you should pay apscuhuru.org a visit!

[edit] Plot too short

It is far too abbreviated and makes no mention of Maddy Bowen, who was a strong supporting character. Cliff smith 02:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cast

When Danny and solomon and maddy get on the car with solomon carrying an injured child, is the driver played by Tom Sizemore? And the reporter who stopped solomon and said: there's not enough space, he's an indian soap actor(i dont know his name though). Shouldn't it be in the trivia?

RE: TOM SIZEMORE - I just watched it and paused at that section - I cannot find a citation for the actor, but it is definitively not Tom Sizemore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.142.218 (talk) 02:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Language

add German to Languages?

66.75.229.195 03:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

There is already an interlanguage link to the German Wikipedia article. - Gilliam 03:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] De Beers Group

De Beers Group, which is the largest player in the diamond trade, has expressed reservations that the film will reduce public demand for diamonds.

Eh? So the de Beers Group believes the film will not reduce public demand etc? The above sentence, if not construed in the aforesaid fashion, is essentially meaningless. Is this what passes for literacy these days? TharkunColl 00:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anachronisms etc.

I added a new trivia section with the appearance of an 07 passat on a movie set in the 90s. I thought it was funny, however, is it worthy of this article? please comment. NeoXtremeX 04:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I noticed it as well and thought it was funny. No reason not to keep it, I would think. Cheers. --Pnencka 19:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I also noticed that, when Maddy was taking pictures of the refugees, the fence was directly in front of the camera lens. --2ltben 03:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

My friends and I all laughed at that too. And at the red lid on the previously uncapped bottle that Danny passes to Maddy. Drcwright 03:29, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The refugees are a far enough distance away from the fence that it would be very easy for Maddy to focus through the fence, having little to no obstruction in the photos. TheMagicalMan 22:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Could we add what they did well? Rhodesian Accent, the Rhodesian mutt in a scene, the Shona saying etc?--Economic.mip 20:21, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

My car trivia was taken out...any reasons? NeoXtremeX 16:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

The article says that Danny Archer is from South Africa. In the film, however, he tells Maddy that he was born in Rhodesia (modern-day Zimbabwe). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.76.142.218 (talk) 01:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

it seems to be a bit superflous. eh?

Yes indeed, zing. --NEMT 22:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

That sections is just a disguised trivie section. Write into the prose of the article or remove it. DurinsBane87 23:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

TO DURINSBANE87: In re your note on the recent removal of this section, I didn't say "you" needed to be encyclopedic, I merely quote the dictionary in order to do my bit to counter the current trend toward removal of anything remotely fun, controversial or even discursive from Wikipedia entries. These deletions and the Twitter enties that result help anyone to better use the encyclopedia to understand our world? An encyclopedia is not a dictionary; an encyclopedia is made up of essays. Terseness is not a virtue.

The presence or absence of the ANACHRONISM section here will not prevent me from buying and distributing dozens of copies of this film to any of my friends I can force to take one. I put the list back into the entry because 1. It is fun, 2. The awareness of "faults" within a film plays an important technical role in the development of the film critic's opinions and thus are, by definition, important to students of the film (we the readers), and 3. In this film anachronisms might have more than one cause.

It may be that the film's director did not really care about the kinds of mundane details encompassed by this list. OK then, that says something about him and the professionalism of the continuity people he hired to help him.

But, if you know anything of the background of this film then you know that the diamond industry worked against the making of the film and later, the distribution of the film. Are these and other faults the result of opposition-induced funding squeezes? If so, the director can perhaps be forgiven for cost-cutting in the continuity department.

Unfortunately, I am not an expert on the long-running battle to bring this film to the theatre and cannot do a decent job of describing it to readers. So, until a person with the needed expertise comes forward to write the back story of the film's production, we are stuck for an explanation of why the director didn't control the film better. But we still should know that the film exhibits a lack of directorial control. Parsnip13 05:40, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

That's fantastic and all, but wikipedia has policies. These are basically just movie goofs. They belong on IMDB, not wikipedia. DurinsBane87 17:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weapon used by DiCaprio

There is no way to be M4 the barrel lenght is 11.5 inches while the M4 barrel is 14.5 inches so I change it to CAR-15 . --Max Mayr 19:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Obviously you don't have much knowledge about the M4/M16 family. The M4's upper receiver can be changed to have different barrel lengths, common barrels are 10, 14.5, 16 and 20 inch barrels. However you may be correct in assuming the rifle he uses in the last scene is a CAR15/XM177. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.152.66 (talk) 08:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Danny Archer's Clothing & Equipment

1) Boots - It has been speculated that he was wearing Desert Operations Series boots by Magnum Boots USA 2) Knife - Something from Cold Steel? 3) Shirt - Something from 5.11 Tactical? 4) Pants - Something from 5.11 Tactical? 5) Watch - Breitling Chrono Avenger. Source: http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=76150 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickgomez (talk • contribs) 09:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Blooddiamondposter.jpg

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[edit] Archer or Aocher ?

Was Di Caprio name in the movie Archer or Aocher because I remember it Aocher ...--Blain Toddi 14:59, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

That may just be caused by the accent that DiCaprio used for his character. In my limited experience of white African accents, these do sometimes alter the sound, and apparent spelling, of words. Your mileage may vary.

Incidentally, I reverted an edit you made to the article earlier but forgot to explain why in the edit summary. You'd added the name of a weapon used by a character at one point in the film. I removed it because it seemed an unnecessary detail for this scene - the article doesn't reference other weapons used (nor are weapons a particularly relevant detail for the film). Anyway, my apologies for the earlier slip - I hope this explains my edit. Cheers, --Plumbago 15:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)