Talk:Bloke

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This page has been transwikied to Wiktionary.
The article has content that is useful at Wiktionary. Therefore the article can be found at either here or here (logs 1 logs 2.)

Note: This means that the article has been copied to the Wiktionary Transwiki namespace for evaluation and formatting. It does not mean that the article is in the Wiktionary main namespace, or that it has been removed from Wikipedia's. Furthermore, the Wiktionarians might delete the article from Wiktionary if they do not find it to be appropriate for the Wiktionary.

Removing this tag will usually trigger CopyToWiktionaryBot to re-transwiki the entry. This article should have been removed from Category:Copy to Wiktionary and should not be re-added there.
Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 17 April 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Contents

[edit] Jonathon Davis?

Is Jonathon Davis' inclusion in this page really encyclopaedic? And where the hell does "HIV" come from? I very much doubt it's really his nickname... Nova Prime 15:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I've removed this, seems stupid to me... Also, wtf is with the picture? EAi 18:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I think someone added him in as a joke. There's not really any need to remove the picture since it does illustrate 'a bloke', but I'm sure it could be replaced with a better one. - Nova Prime 03:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decline in usage?

During the 1950s the word bloke was used extensively - dude being unheard of and guy pertaining to Guy Fawkes only - by adults while "chap" was used by schoolboys. It fell gradually out of use in the early sixties and was not really replaced by anything else.

I have deleted the second sentence from this paragraph, as I would regard 'bloke' (and 'chap') as both remaining in common frequent usage. DWaterson 17:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Certainly in South Australia bloke is used in every day language. Dude seems only to be used instead of mate. eg. Hey dude what are you doing? Chap seems to have almost entirely disappeared, it seems to be more of an affection eg. G'day chaps.. Guy is used interchangeably with bloke eg. I met a guy at the pub. I met a bloke at the pub etc. Ozdaren 12:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] «Tête carrée» derived from bloke

The also used moniker, «Tête carrée» (“square head”) is derived from bloke.

I don't understand: how do you get to tête carrée from bloke? Marnanel 13:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe from the word bloc?

[edit] Redundancy

Previously this article only said that the term blokey, to mean a man with exagerated stereotypical masculine behaviour, mannerisms, pursuits, was authentically Australasian and restricted to Aust and NZ. Now a more general discussion of the very same thing is also in the top section of article, with reference to UK tv series Men Behaving Badly. This seems like a redundancy to have the two sections that say similar things. Also does this mean the blokey usage is also in the UK, so not usique to Aust/NZ? Asa01 19:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Oooops. This fist section usesblokish, the second, blokey. Maybe the Men Bahaving Badly bit and the blokey bit can be put in a new section together. They are very similar concepts. Asa01 19:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is anyone watching this art?

Recent edits look as though they might need reverting - but which edit is the "right one" - spurious and or fake etymology is not my expertise! SatuSuro 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cab Calloway

Used 'bloke' in the lyrics of Minnie the Moocher (1932).

She messed around with a bloke named smokie

Is any authentic use of 'bloke' in the US reflected in this lyric or would it simply be emulation by the artist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.32.189 (talk) 16:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expand, merge or redirect

This page is a mere dictionary definition (something which Wikipedia is not). It explains the meaning, possible origins and usage of a regional slang expression. While there is some interesting content here, I can't find any encyclopedic content on this page. Nothing here rises past what I would expect to read in a truly great unabridged dictionary. The definitions and usage discussions belong over in Wiktionary where folks with the right skills, interests and lexical tools can more easily sort out the meanings and origins. The "other uses" lines belong on the disambiguation page.

Options to fix the page here include:

  1. Expand the page with encyclopedic content - that is, content that goes well beyond the merely lexical.
  2. Redirect the page to a more general page on the appropriate sub-genre of slang.
  3. Replace the current contents with a soft-redirect to Wiktionary (usually done using the {{wi}} template).
  4. Move the disambiguation page to this title and clearly point the lexical content to the Wiktionary page.

Pending a better answer, I'm implementing option 4 for now. Rossami (talk) 00:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)