Talk:Blades of Glory (film)

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Contents 1 Vote: Keep Factual Errors? 2 Citation for use 3 Trivia Error 4 OTT Plot 5 Message to ice skating editors 6 Figure Skating trivia 7 The Sibling Arrest 8 Vagueness 9 Film rating 10 Fair use rationale for Image:Jennafischer.jpg 11 Loophole 12 Fair use rationale for Image:Torvill dean bolero.jpg 13 Should be re-titled Blades of Glory Spoilers

[edit] Vote: Keep Factual Errors?

Keep on the grounds that they are of interest to many readers, but put those comments in a context that makes it clear the movie is a parody and therefore explicitly not meant to be factually accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.165.43.66 (talk) 15:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Delete!

• Delete - A great deal of these "errors" are placed automatically with the assumption that the completely fictional "World Wintersport Games" has the exact same rules, scoring system, and technicalities of the Olympics. Urbanski 06:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• keep - How can we not mention somehwhere in the article that people, even pro-figure skaters, cannot fly? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gitsumama (talk • contribs) 04:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

• Delete - Its just silly nitpicking, there are other places on the internet for this and wikipedia is not one of them. Wikipedia's policy on Trivia states that we need to cut down on pointless trivia sections, including continuity and factual errors. The article is supposed to describe the film and its place in popular culture, not to tell the world where they went wrong. Paradox CT 04:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - Not even a question. Exactly what is the point of having a "fact checking" part of an article about a pretty much spoof comedy that was never in a position to being factually accurate with anything to begin with? Hey let's make one for The Naked Gun and Airplane! while we're at it! It comes down to nothing more than the nerd patrol trying to impress everyone with all their pointless facts that have nothing to do with the movie. A movie that pokes fun at the sport people.--Lamrock 05:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Keep factual errors, delete overly nitpicking thing about flying. 141.151.171.198 06:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. It really has no purpose here in Wikipedia, especially for this type of movie. Mahanga^Talk 15:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete most of the factual errors; I doubt that most people really thought this movie was supposed to accurately portray the system used by figure skaters to qualify for the Olympics. I would keep the section noting that the "loophole" doesn't really exist, though - that seems like something many people might search wikipedia just to find out.DaveOTN 03:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I have seen factual errors sections in many other film articles. Wouldn't it be better to propose no-factual-errors as an overarching policy, perhaps through Wikiproject Films, and then apply that decision to this article? (I confess to not looking if it's been discussed before.) Is there precedent here to get rid of factual errors or just opinion? Kolindigo 07:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

And do we really need a rundown of the scores in a FICTIONAL competition? What possible use does that serve?

[edit] Citation for use

• Thomas J. McLean. "Blades of Glory: A CG Ice Capades", VFXWorld, 2007-04-05. 

Visual effects coverage. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 18:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Also, interview with the producer and an article about Will Ferrell --Nehrams2020 22:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Error

I think this is incorrect: Chazz and Jimmy's final routine is set to the song Flash, performed by Queen, from the film Flash Gordon. Craig T. Nelson, who played the coach in this film, did an uncredited voice over for that film. Craig T. Nelson did an uncredited voiceover in Flesh gordon, not Flash Gordon.

you are correct. i'm removing the reference, as i just noticed it here and thought that it was Flesh instead of Flash (i've seen him talk about it on Leno or Conan) and after doing a quick wikipedia search discovered that my memory was correct and that this article is in fact wrong. you'd think people would check these "facts" before adding them. HA!68.255.184.115 17:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OTT Plot

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Wow, if I read this before I went to the Odeon today I couldve saved myself some money. Some wikipedians need to learn that the word 'synopsis' DOESNT MEAN EVEN MINUTE DETAIL OF THE PLOT. Tell you what, lets just post up the entire bleeding screenplay!

And some of that 'trivia' is utter bilge aswell.

[edit] Message to ice skating editors

Please note that this is a FILM article not an ICE SKATING article. Not only that but it is of fictional nature, not even about real skaters. So can all the Ice Skating Editors please realise that this article will be edited as a film article in terms of trivia, casting and references to popular culture. Which is why most of the ice skating relatied trivia does not belong on this page. If this was based on a true story then some of the details of the ice skating in the film would be aplicable but as this is entirely fictional, none of this is really nessicary. So please, if we could have this article conform to Film article standards and leave out all these nitpicky and unnotable details about all the FICTIONAL ice skating in this film. Thankyou. Paradox CT 21:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Figure Skating trivia

I'd like to see some of the figure skating trivia put back into this article. As a fan of the sport, it was exactly what made it fun. The movie is about figure skating, and pays homage to it, so I'd like to see some of the ways it did that in this article. For example, if the section about the skaters mentioned in the posted scores can remain, why can't what I wrote about the real-life skaters who portrayed the commission that banned the main characters? I think that's important because their presence in the film pays homage to the last four decades of great figure skaters.Figureskatingfan 16:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)Figureskatingfan

Hi. I'm the one who deleted your contribution of:

The panel that bans Chazz and Jimmy from figure skating for life represents the last four decades of figure skating greats: Peggy Fleming (1960s), Dorothy Hamill (1970s), Brian Boitano (1980s), and Nancy Kerrigan (1990s).

I deleted it because it seemed like pure conjecture and possible original research. I doubt the filmmakers decided to pay tribute and the cameos represent, instead, who they could get to do cameos. But if you can find a reference for this, I have no objection to having it in the article. Kolindigo 17:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I put it back in, but now I've deleted it again. I agree that my addition is original research, since after a pretty extensive Google search, I wasn't able to find any source to back it up. Perhaps it will be in the DVD that comes out at the end of August. If it supports my addition, I'll add it back in. Figureskatingfan 19:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Sibling Arrest

Weren't the sibling arrested for vandalizing the winter games mascot?Ikenn 15:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Stranz shot at it with a crossbow. Also, please sign your posts on the talk page using four tildes. Instructions on how to do so are on the top of the page when you edit it. Thank you.Asarelah 04:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vagueness

"The film has made $118,223,363 in America and $23,885,469 million in the Foreign market place. " What is "America", is it North America, South America, both, or the United States of America? Lovok 13:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Film rating

There seems to be a single editor interested in placing a note about this film's rating within the Plot section of the article. The addition has been repeatedly reverted and/or deleted, and the consensus about the issue is clear: the film's American MPAA rating does not belong in the plot summary. One editor's opinion does not warrant its inclusion. This editor has been warned about edit/warring on his/her talk page. Williamroy3 22:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Jennafischer.jpg

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BetacommandBot 07:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Loophole

I think the explanation for the loophole at the end of the article needs more information because in the movie they actually said that the loophole is that they were baned from single skating but can still compete in pairs. May be someone who knows the rules can add something about if this is the case. Allowing two men to compete together was not actually described as a "loophole" in the movie, they simply said there was nothing in the rules about it.

Pete168 (talk) 17:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Torvill dean bolero.jpg

Image:Torvill dean bolero.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 20:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should be re-titled Blades of Glory Spoilers

I don't know what Wiki's guidelines are for articles on motion pictures, but would somebody PLEASE edit the "Plot" section down to a synopsis rather than a outline. Any half-baked screenwriter could write a whole script from the info in this article.

I know this isn't Netflix or Internet Movie Database (IMDb), but come on guys!!

Rico402 (talk) 09:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)