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[edit] POV

"The Blackrock Baths were the object of many happy memories, however they have fallen into dilapidation since their closure. There are now controversial plans by their owner, Treasury Holdings, to develop the site. As with most intrusive and large-scale developments, this is opposed by many local people, however the plan has not received much publicity and local history suggests that developers will eventually get what they want." Very POV. 85.134.131.190 16:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and neuter it then, fellow wikipedian!

Not the only POV in this article, sections of which seem to be very anti-development. As someone who grew up there my POV is that the area has GREATLY improved; before the by-pass (with its not unattractive buildings) the Main Street was traffic choked.

And the notion of a "Big Dig" to put the by-pass underground is so divorced from and commercial reality it boggles the mind!!

Pedestrian bridges can actually tackle rising ground! For the cost of burying the road you could build the Taj Mahal of pedestrian bridges!

Also, 'tis a VERY "Dunleary" attitude that EVERY building over three stories high is a developer-imposed monstrosity.

(Sarah777 02:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Population

Someone has put in a population figure of 9,874 for Blackrock; claimed to be based on the 2002 census. I couldn't find that in the Census - any reference? (Sarah777 00:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC))

The 2002 census shows a total population of 28,557 for the 10 electoral districts in Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown containing the name 'Blackrock'. See here. 2006 figures are not included in Wikipedia as they are provisional. Electoral districts with populations are:

Blackrock-Booterstown 2,888
Blackrock-Carysfort 5,555
Blackrock-Central 3,648
Blackrock-Glenomena 1,839
Blackrock-Monkstown 3,146
Blackrock-Newpark 2,272
Blackrock-Seapoint 1,403
Blackrock-Stradbrook 2,383
Blackrock-Templehill 2,700
Blackrock-Williamstown 2,723
Curtains99 17:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that seems much closer; many years ago I heard that Blackrock had a population of 'about 30,000' (Sarah777 21:00, 22 January 2007 (UTC))

Either Blackrock is one big area, or, as seems to be the case, some of the "subsidiaries" are considered to be distinct, in which case their parts of the above figures need to be separated out:

Booterstown
  Blackrock-Booterstown 2,888
  Blackrock-Williamstown        2,723

Monkstown
  Blackrock-Monkstown           3,146

Seapoint
  Blackrock-Seapoint            1,403

which leaves Blackrock town and immediate localities:

  Blackrock-Central          3,648
   (town and surrounds)
   Blackrock-Carysfort    5,555
   (just inland, centre)
   Blackrock-Templehill  2,700
   (inland, south)
   Blackrock-Stradbrook  2,383
   (inland, further south)
   Blackrock-Newpark      2,272
   (inland, further south)
   Blackrock-Glenomena    1,839

for a total for Blackrock excluding the other suburbs above of 18,597.

Feedback? 83.250.207.238 23:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd have thought Williamstown - home of Blackrock Collage and the Blackrock Clinic is definitely in Blackrock; Booterstown is iffy, and the bit between Seapoint Avenue and Monkstown Road west of Alma Road are also definitely in Blackrock. That would snag an additional 5k from the Monkstown and Booterstown - giving a population of about 25,000. To be more precise you need to separate the individual streets; where is Cross Avenue, for example? (Sarah777 00:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC))

Hello, a word from a onetime worker on Rock Road. The Williamstown bit is tricky, as it has historic links with little Booterstown, but you are right, it would be ridiculous to take the Clinic and School out, so I guess Booterstown has to be just that little piece. And I suspect Seapoint is also partly in another DED. From past dealings with the CHamber, I think you are probably on the mark with 24,000-25,000. The problem is really the use by the census people of the silly DED's in the first place. I don't know if you have ever read the definitions but instead of using clear old land areas, they have things like "the imaginary line from the rear of the garden of No. 2 Meadow Lane to the imaginary line from the intersection of the Big Stream and Mrs. Jones Public House". I had the same problem trying to do Northside suburb figures. Best of luck! Twilson r 08:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced information

I'm going to delete all the unsourced claims next week. Curtains99 16:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Probably no harm. The article is pretty poor for a place with 30,000 people. very little structure, apart from all the POV and dodgy 'facts'; look at the Rathfarnham article to see how this should be written. (Sarah777 21:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC))