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[edit] Section relevance

If the list of African americans have been critical of government which has had both a Rep/Dem alternate presidency and fluctuating senate/house htf does this qualify as "leftist". This argument is stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.145.236.237 (talk) 16:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable African American leftists

Removed Sharpton: Worked for George Pataki and other GOPers. So obviously a right-wing spy. Removed Public Enemy: Chuck D defended far-right hatemonger Louis Farrakhan Removed Chuck D: See Public Enemy Removed Louis Farrakhan: Black on the outside, Nazi on the inside. Consider his views on women, homosexuals, other races, and other religions.

I think you're tinfoil hat's on too tight.

Farrakhan, Sharpton and the like need to be on the page. Whether or not you like what they have to say they are influential individuals. Gorgeousp 03:09, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

HTW exactly do Religious leaders that promoted gun use, strong families, was anti-Alcohol/Drugs, etc. (Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan) be considered "Leftist"? Looks like someone tried to re-write history with this one. -- {They call me Dirty Shoez}

Sharpton as he campaigns for Democrats and ran for President as a Dem can be considered a "black liberal", Farrakhan otoh is just a radical who refuses to support either side and criticizes both66.72.215.225 17:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

Shouldn't the title be changed to 'Black liberalism'? Because the opposite article is called 'Black conservatism'. Or the other way around, with the other article being called 'African American Conservatism (or Rightism to match with Leftism but Rightism sounds awkward)'. Besides, Leftism and Rightism implies more radicalist beliefs, so it should stick to Liberalism and Conservatism. Either way they should be in the similar format for simplicity.

[edit] Charles Barkley?

Why is Charles Barkley on this page? He supported George Bush for president in 2000. Can anyone provide any evidence of Barkley's leftism, or even liberalism?

[edit] Expansion Please

This page needs a HUGE expansion, there have been a trailer load of Black-leftist (to “far-left”) movements and issues throughout the course of U.S history, ESPECIALLY the mid to late 20th century. The black conservative page makes this page look like a haiku instead of an encyclopedia entry.

[edit] Denzel, really?

He sounds pretty conservative to me. Mrbluesky 23:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Barack Obama

I remove Barack Obama. Although, Obama is liberal, he is hardly a leftist. I have attached the cut entry below in case anyone needs to restore it (if you use the Wiki system to restore you will delete Barbera Jordan). The only people who consider Obama "leftist" are Republican conservatives, who are most likely responsible for his posting on here anyway. His inclusion is simply to discredit him. If he is included, then Oprah Winfrey should be included as well, which is absurd. Are George Bush, Jr. or Dick Cheney editing Wikipedia?

[edit] Criticism

It's simple. This article does not cite a single source. It is all original research. If you remove the criticism section on those grounds, then you must eliminate the whole article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedomwarrior (talk • contribs) 18:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I can pick and choose what parts I want to delete, as I am contesting these parts as being factual. My edits are in accordance with WP:OR policy and you reverting my edits is a blatant violation of WP:OR. —Christopher Mann McKaytalk 18:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Likewise.Freedomwarrior 20:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US Bias

I was a bit shocked to see that this article only seems to be concerned with the US and African Americans. Considring that African Caribbean radicals have had such a strong impact on the US (Claudia Jones - Trinidad, Claude McKay - Jamaica, Hubert Harrison - St Croix, and I could go on . . . but none of them get a look in. Where should we go with this page: one big page that deals with the matter internationally, with separate pages for different zones, or what . . .Harrypotter 20:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

There not being any response to the above after several weeks, I am proposing to move most of the material here to page Black leftism in the USA, and creating a new look to this page with different sections for Black leftism in different parts of the world, encompassing Aime Cesaire, Frantz Fanon and others.Harrypotter (talk) 00:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)