Talk:Black drink

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A point: The article Cherokee black drink should probably be merged with this one. TriNotch 15:29, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

And some of the rhetoric toned down. Cassine, or Ilex vomitoria, doesn't even induce vomiting, let alone "convulsions and death". The sources I've read indicate that the vomiting that generally followed the ceremonial consumption of the black drink was probably a learned behavior. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)^(Talk) 17:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

You are entirely correct. Hudson's book is the definitive resource on the subject. Chemically it should only induce vomiting if consumed in prodigious quantities while quite hot- just as coffee or tea. The vomiting witnessed historically is presumably either due to that or to deliberate effort. I have performed the merge, removed the rhetoric, added references, and performed some edits. More information should still be added, however. TriNotch 22:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)