Talk:Blümchen

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Contents 1 Needs to be edited 2 @Alkivar 3 Heut ist mein Tag 4 use of Heut is mein Tag on YTMND 5 YouTube links

[edit] Needs to be edited

I don't know enough about this artist to correct the format of the following text, but I didn't want to just get rid of it.AfterSpencer 15:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

All references before Jan 2001 should be Blümchen. All references after Jan 2001 should be refered to her as JASMIN WAGNER. So currently, all her CDs are all JASMIN WAGNER CDs not Blümchen anymore. She retired and her final tour broke off her conection to Edel and she moved to Polydor/Island records. Basically this page should be titled for Jasmin Wagner or Exblümchen is also a popular nick name the German press has given her.

Blümchen = "Flower Girl" not Floret. Who calls their daughter a floret????

She was given this when she was growing up having to take care of her brother and her mother as her dad divorced Jasmins mother leaving the 3 part family stuck in Germany (her mom is Croation immigrant.) If it wasnt for Jasmin's career the family may have fallen apart. To this day Jasmin is very close to her mom and brother and they still all live together - she is 25 years old.

Doubtful. "Flower Girl" in German would translate to "Blumenmädchen".

You will note that the page specifically breaks down UNDER WHICH NAME EACH ALBUM WAS RELEASED. WP policy is to title the page with the name most well known. Blümchen is better known by that name than by Jasmin Wagner hence the page here, Madonna is better known at that than her real one Madonna Louise Ciccone hence why her page is at Madonna (entertainer) rather than Madonna Louise Ciccone. Just following common policy.

Your translation is off, it translates to "Small Flower" and since her english albums were released under the name "Blossom" that should be the definative translation. Also, her family divorce etc... is not something that really belongs on here anyway the page is about her, not her mom and her dad.  ALKIVAR™ 19:17, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

I didn't write any of that. . .those are some of the reasons I moved that stuff from the main page to the talk page AfterSpencer 20:09, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

I know dude ... that was a response to the writer, not you :)  ALKIVAR™ 03:28, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

What's the point putting things in the talk page. Do contributors actually think people look information from talk pages. I think sometimes family plays big role in career of an artist. Also there is a lot of artist pages that tell background information about artist that is not directly related to his/her career, but is still related to that person. I'm not suggesting we should make two pages for each artist, one for background information and one for artist information. Monni 09:39, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I just wanted to explain the German word 'Blümchen'... the 'chen' ending is used in German for cuteness, so it's a tiny/small cute flower! 'chen' ending is mostly used while speaking to small kids.

Dekar

[edit] @Alkivar

Alkivar, I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE: at least the version of 'Boomerang' played on German VIVA over here is about 196.5 - 198 BPM, nothing below. Marusha's 'Somewhere over the rainbow' is somewhat a reference for me, as it's exactly 160 BPM. I'm now listening to other music, but if you insist, I can download 'Boomerang' again and time it. But it's in no way 165 BPM. T-MA ( = Falco)'s 'Mutter der Mann mit dem Koks ist da' is 171 BPM, and still LOTS slower than Boomerang. Maybe there's a 165 BPM mix of Boomerang which I do not know about (US version?), but the German version 'Bumerang' was definitely extremely fast, almost 200. FOR SURE. -andy 80.129.112.246 15:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Your right! I was apparently listening to the "radio edit" from my vinyl... album cut is much faster. Either way Verrukte Jungs is much faster at 217bpm! So I've increased it to 220.  ALKIVAR™ 01:05, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

thanks, and so happy this is sorted!! Nice to know there's a "slow" radio edit. Usually they *DO* use the radio edits for video clips, which confuses me a lot. BUUUT...what they publish on vinyl does not necessarily have to match with what they publish on CD. Nevertheless, I had another ace in the pocket, by having timed this back in ~1995 synchronously with the video clip :) (since I liked to know HOW fast that was) -andy 80.129.108.139 20:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heut ist mein Tag

Perhaps we should add about how one of her songs, Heut ist mein Tag, is sometimes used as a symbol of Hitler, the Nazis, and National Socialism in the Internet, especially at sites like YTMND, in which anything having to do with Nazis has Heut ist mein Tag playing. -Serapindal; 3.12.06

But what has "Heut ist mein Tag" got to do with Hitler and Nazism, apart from YTMND? Is it just because the song is sung in German? --StickyTac 16:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

prolly just that fact indeed, someone found it fun to use it with that once or twice and then it's use spread i guess. there are no further links to be made that i can think off. Boneyard 18:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] use of Heut is mein Tag on YTMND

this has been added and removed a few times now, without trying to come to a good solution in my opinion. fact is that the song is used there and often in relation to nazi's / hitler, take a look at the Heut ist mein Tag www.ytmnd.com/keyword/heut%20ist%20mein%20tag keyword. if that is the case and jasmin is known through that we simply should make mention of it. perhaps not at the musical career section, because it has little to do with her career, but it should be mentioned then. Boneyard 10:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

YTMND is not notable outside of YTMND. Add it to the list of YTMND fads if you like, biut let's not pollute the serious encyclopaedia with it. WP:NOT your (YTMND's) playground, and definitely not a way of improving your YTMND rating. Just zis Guy you know? 13:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

still YTMND is a rather notable site on internet in my opinion. also this has nothing todo with me as i don't have made any YTMND pages. i just feel that as the song is used on several YTMND pages it justifies saying that here and so have several other people in the past. Boneyard 14:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

YTMND is a reality as is this fad. I understand some of her die-hard fans do not want this fact to be true, but it is. No one is saying she's a Nazi. Stop trying to stiffle facts. That song is used on YTMND a lot!

For values of reality that are divorced from real life, and for values of fans which (in my case at least) include those who wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground. Oh, it's her. Same difference. Just zis Guy you know? 21:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

You are obviously oblivious to the purpose of Wikipedia. Do not worry, the truth will be spoken.

For Wikipeida's true purpose as interpreted in these situations see WP:ROUGE. Just zis Guy you know? 15:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

This song appearing on ytmnd (a very popular site, check alexa) in itself, has made the song popular, and thus added value to the artists popularity. Absence of a note on it, is like removing any info on Thriller (album) from MJ's wiki.Cannibaltom 22:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This artist was known before, though I haven't heard anything from her in years. This sounds like one of thousands of internet memes. If you can find any indication that YTMND had any effect on the actual artist, then you can include it. --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)