Talk:Bishop Seabury Academy
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Avaknerd, please be careful to keep your own edits to the page un-opinionated (and use correct grammar). Your new addition to the issues section seemed to be one of anger directed at the school for their recent edits as opposed to a factual statement about the edits. That being said, the schools behavior on this article has been bad as well, but I think that has been stopped now. I have moved the issues section back to the bottom of the article, where it was originally placed. Larzia 17:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Larzia (I know who you are), to everyone who loves the academy, I am sorry. This has to be done. I am getting sick and tired of seeing IPs coming from the Academy exercising behavior that is almost similar to that of Propaganda. I have seen uses of double speak and deletion of articles which almost translates to censorship itself.
I will remind everyone that Wikipedia is NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT BOARD. I will make it clear that I will not have this article for deletion, but I will express regret that this is happening. This is irresponsible of the school itself and if they are not willing to admit their negatives, then shame on them. The more editing out of the negatives I see, the more I will drive a knife through the schools reputation. I haven't exposed all of the negatives of the school and I certainly will not hesitate to expose more if this continues.
Congratulations! You, my friends at Seabury, have discovered the secrets of double speak. The issues that go around in the school are certainly not "opinion and comment" and have evidence that can back them up.
Larzia, thank you for being such a great help. I do not want to see this article deleted, but I do not also want this article to just solely advertise the school as well. Nothing is ever perfect- but the fact that several people are trying to cover up these faults disturbs me greatly. This is highly unprofessional.
I apologize and express regret at the same time that I had to do this. The school must understand their limitations on what they can and cannot do outside of the school grounds. I will think of this as a punishment for the academy, but I will also remove the recent additions to the Issues section if I see that other people have not been tampering with this article. Larzia, if you wish to move the Issues section to the lowest part of the article, I will not mind at all.
Avaknerd50
I'm not sure who deleted capital campaign information, but I believe that legitimately falls under the history section. I restored it back to the form I wrote it in.
Larzia 05:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
24.124.34.1 is the IP address of the school. I have sent an e-mail to the secretary asking that people not remove the issues section or the whole article will be deleted. As the creator of this article and an alum of the school, I'd be disappointed to see it deleted. I will restore the issues section (my re-written version, which I believe preserves the facts) as soon as I finish typing this.
Larzia 04:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I will keep this article non biased. No matter how many times 24.124.34.1 modifies this page. Every time I see an unfair edit by this IP address- I will restore the article to its original state. If you can't handle negative facts being placed up here- I will have this article in consideration for a deletion. Wikipedia is not an advertisement board. You should not remove negative facts that are true.
Avaknerd50
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[edit] issues
This is Matt Patterson. I want to say that I am offended by the content of the "issues" section. It is highly opinionated and not accurate as far as I understand things; the approach used here is not consistent with the values of the Seabury tradition as I understand them. I don't know who is responsible for the content of this page, but if you would please contact me at school, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
Pattmj26pattmj26
[edit] issues
Let me add a couple of points. I have not viewed this wikipedia entry before today (4/20/07), and the only reason I know of its existence is because my sister e-mailed me to say that I was the first member of our family to be mentioned on wikipedia. The problems that I found with the "issues" section were exclusive to the first paragraph.
I don't believe in hiding behind electronically created aliases. If you have issues with Bishop Seabury, please bring them to me.
Point-by-point: If there is indeed a "rift" between students and parents, it is between some students and some parents. Not all students and parents feel this way; this should not be perceived as a general sentiment. Furthermore, the person making these comments has no access to the private financial data relevant to Seabury families and therefore is not qualified to make any generalizations about favoritism toward families with greater financial resources. Many families with substantial financial resources are greatly involved in school affairs, and many families without substantial financial resources are greatly involved with the school. We do not express preferential treatment, especially in the classroom. Finally, the person making these comments does not have access to records of admission or re-admission and therefore is not qualified to make any observations on that account either. In fact, the opposite of the author's points may well be true. The phrasing of these comments ("There has been" -- which implies a presentation of fact; "It is known" -- which also implies a presentation of fact) is irresponsible, to say the least.
My hope is that the author of these comments will willingly remove them. They are slanderous, and the author is guilty of a lack of critical thinking. As a member of the faculty at Seabury, I seek nothing more than to instill critical thinking skills in my students -- all of my students, regardless of their backgrounds. Please take a moment to reflect on what you have to say, and please have the courage to identify yourself.
Pattmj26 02:54, 21 April 2007 (UTC)pattmj26
Whoever recently added comments to the "issues" section has made more comments that he or she is unqualified to make. Once again, the author of these comments does not have access to school budget information or to confidential records related to financial aid. Other comments are simply slanderous, and the use of passive voice in the sentence about students "being sent" to other schools is also misleading.
Pattmj26 01:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)pattmj26
[edit] Neccessary article?
I live in Lawrence, is it really neccessary to have this article? I really dont think the school is that important.
I also live in Lawrence, and I don't think that this article is really neccissary. All that is happening is that people are aruing and re-editing it over and over.
[edit] Necessary Article
1. Whether you think it is important or not, someone (me) thought it was important enough to take the time to create a wikipedia page about it. That is the point of this site is it not?
2. Learn to spell.
3. Tag your comments on the talk page.
Larzia 16:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Necessary article
Forgive my bad english.
If you and that Pat person from the school are the only ones who think its important enough to have, why have it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.124.49.158 (talk) 13:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Necessary Article
Someone has suggested that this article be deleted, without commenting on here. I have removed that suggestion, as there are thousands of other articles about schools on Wikipedia, and no further reason for deleting the article was mentioned. I believe the page currently only contains factual information about the school, I believe most of the opinionated stuff is gone now (both good and bad). Larzia 03:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
This page should definitely deleted. A school of 120 students DOES NOT deserve a Wikipedia page. Your argument that the article it self is not very biased is true, but whether or not the article is important enough to have is what matters. It does not matter how many pages there are about schools on Wikipedia, what matters is whether THIS page deserves an article.
24.124.49.158 00:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Not Deserving?
If someone is willing to take the time to create a Wikipedia page for it... then it deserves it. That is the idea of Wikipedia, is it not?
Larzia 04:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
(cur) (last) 04:24, 15 October 2007 Larzia (Talk | contribs) (8,861 bytes) (Making 24.124.49.158 look dumb) (undo) Making me look dumb? I think one of the ideas of Wikipedia is to contribute to it, not to just put what you want up here and make other people "look dumb". I think its sad that the only people who want this to stay are people who work at the school, if not just you now.
65.69.235.231 (talk) 03:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
