Talk:Birth order
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Is this much more than an ad for the book? Mlk 04:37, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I think that this article could do with some revamping. I have added a section on Zajonc's confluence model. There should also be some acknowledgement that one's subjective birth order may not be identical to one's objective birth order (for example, a child with a chronic illness may be objectively the eldest, but actually feel as if he or she is younger than other siblings). What I would like to see is more contextualisation of this piece, putting it in the wider context of a discussion of "why children in the same family are so different" and how psychologists generally claim that this is evidence for the importance of nonshared environmental effects (environmental experiences which siblings do not share) in development. This could easily lead on to criticisms from those psychologists, such as Robert Plomin or Judith Rich Harris, who are highly skeptical about birth order as a variable to explain these differences. A. Carl 11:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
In this wiki. article, are only-children purposely not discussed, or can first-borns and only-children be put into the same category?
This article needs both better content, and better citation.
Added external link to Birth Order Patterns kacys 08:08, 29 Oct 2006
As a class project for the next month or so we will be making updates to this wiki. Let us know if you have ideas for updates or additions. kacys 08:08, 3 Nov 2006
Added text disputing intelligence kacys 07:15, 6 Nov 2006
Added text on religion kacys 05:54, 9 Nov 2006
Edited text on Only Child kacys 08:54, 12 Nov 2006
Edited text on Only Child kacys 08:54, 13 Nov 2006
Edited text on first born and middle child kacys 08:54, 14 Nov 2006
Added text on Judith Rich Harris
kacys 03:47, 15 Nov 2006
Added link on Judith Rich Harris's wiki to her article kacys 08:48, 14 Nov 2006
Added new category on Sexuality kacys 06:36, 16 Nov 2006 will add more later.
Added more on personality kacys 05:21, 17 Nov 2006
Added more on Judith Rich Harriskacys 06:54, 18 Nov 2006
Plans: add categories on: Twins, boy or girl order, parental attitude, economic status, add more text and citations for birth order categories, update Judith Rich Harris's wiki, merge only children and only childkacys 08:15, 18 Nov 2006
Added more on idea of birth order theories and disputeskacys 08:26, 18 Nov 2006
Added link to study in religionkacys 1:26, 18 Nov 2006 Work on twins research and edit only child and only children wikikacys 1:26, 25 Nov 2006
Updated info. on sexuality; proposed merging Fraternal birth order with birth order. kacys:kacys 6:40 26 Nov 2006
Added Marriage category kacys:kacys 6:40 26 Nov 2006
Added quote from Nurture Assumption here and Harris's wiki and added link from Harris to birth order kacy:kacy 7:27 26 Nov 2006
Added text on First Born 02:03, 28 November 2006 Mecatlady
Added on the part on marriage that this is the personal opinion of that author. I even think that this (short) part should be out entirely, as mainstream science would definitely not agree with the statements on this site. It seems more like pseudoscience to me. Sinas 10:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Youngest children
I don't think there's enough said on the useless nature of youngest children. Every one of them is a pallid clown child and grow up to be annoying drunks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.70.242.46 (talk) 00:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC).
- Stereotyping isn't smart at all. I'm a lastborn but 1) I'm not an annoying drunk, 2) I have a top-pay job at the local college, and 3) I have high intelligence, apparently top-percent even but it's of no real concern to me. I wouldn't be scared of girls disliking me if they would stop thinking I'm nothing but an immature brat, when that isn't even the case at all. --Juigi Kario (Charge! * My crusades) 02:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
This is clearly a stereotypical view of some one who appears to be very narrow minded, I'm the youngest child, I have one older brother, I am 17 I am currently at college studying a BTEC Diploma and i am aiming to be a pediatric nurse, so far the level of achievement i am working at is distinction grades in all area's of my course 1) I am certainly not nor have i ever been an annoying drunk. For those who stereotype teenagers of 16-18 shouldn't judge people as a group, we are human beings just like you there is no need for prejudice or discrimination towards a certain age group such as my self .
I think this comment is obviously a facetious attempt to get suckers like you guys to take it seriously. I laughed out loud when I read it.
[edit] Birth order AND orphaned?
What about the double whammy of birth order and being orphaned? Bdelisle 08:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Middle child
I am a middle child and nothing in this section even remotely applied to me. Everything here is completely unsubstantiated.
[edit] Third external link is broken.
The third external link (http://www.soa.org/ccm/cms-service/stream/asset/?asset_id=12024105&g11n) nets a "page not found" error message. It should be removed or corrected.