Talk:Birmingham Snow Hill station

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The reference to Moor St is incorrect. Moor St has been in existence for more than a century, and remained open after Snow Hill was closed. Will amend unless anyone objects.

It's semi-correct. The terminal platforms at Moor St date back to the Edwardian period (1909 rings a bell). These were in use until 1987. The through platforms at Moor St, used since 1987, were totally new (and really look like a product of the 80s too). 82.36.26.229 02:21, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Chiltern - not always terminus

I'm not familiar with the conventions used in doing the tables showing where a station sits on a line, but Chiltern usually run a few trains a day through from London to Kidderminster, and so for those at least Snow Hill is not the Chiltern terminus. (I say "usually" since the Kidderminster service is suspended following the Gerrards Cross tunnel collapse.) Loganberry (Talk) 22:38, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

  • Do you know which is the next station served along the route to Kidderminster? It could be added as an a second "following station". e.g. see below.... (Our Phellap 23:44, 31 July 2005 (UTC))
  Preceding station     National Rail     Following station  
Birmingham Moor Street   Chiltern Railways
(London-Birmingham)
  Terminus
  Chiltern Railways
(London-Kidderminster)
  "next station"
Snow Hill. Andy Mabbett 10:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
And after Snow Hill, they tend to stop at Jewellery Quarter, though I'm not certain whether all of them do. (Again, the online timetable is just showing the current emergency version.) Then (I think) The Hawthorns, Smethwick GB, Langley Green, Rowley Regis, Old Hill, Cradley Heath, Lye, Stourbridge Jct, Hagley, Blakedown and Kidderminster. At any rate, from my experience they stop at a lot of stations, even the smaller ones. Loganberry (Talk) 11:40, 1 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Importance

According to this article Snow Hill is the "second most important" station in B/Ham. Just wondering how importance is measured, because Birmingham International and University would probably be close contenders! Oliver Keenan 17:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

It is the second busiest city centre station with intercity links. I presume that qualifies it. G-Man * 21:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong name

I hate to point this out but Snow Hill is also a Midland Metro station, so calling it a 'railway staion' on its own is not correct. G-Man * 21:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Snow Hill to Wolverhampton

The proposed Wrexham Shropshire and Marylebone Railway service will supposedly go Wolverhampton - Snow Hill - Marylebone. What route through the West Midlands area would it take? Surely it's not possible?! David 16:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The service will actually run through from Wolverhampton to New Street Station, before linking back onto the Marylebone line near Tyseley. It will not load/unload at New Street, just pass through. You are correct. There is currently no way of getting from Wolverhampton to Snow Hill by rail, because the Metro Line has severed the link. Dewarw 15:05, 18 March 2007

[edit] Stratford Line

Trains run from Snow Hill to Stratford, so shouldnt this be on the line boxes? I seem to remember that they go on through like the Leamington-Worcester ones, but I cant remember exactly.. Ian3055 21:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Annual entry/exit Statistics

The figure 0.225 million is a totally usless statistic to publish here and I recommend that it should be removed. I would put forward the following reasons to support my claim.

1. All 3 of Birmingham station ticket sales are aggregated and then estimates are made for Snow Hill and Moor Street. These estimates are deducted from the total and the balance attributed to New Street.

2. The use of Snow Hill and Moor Street stations is very heavily skewed by the use of Centrocard commuter users who are buying tickets elsewhere eg. local newsagents (there are at least 3 within 100 yards of the Snow Hill selling Centrocards) and these are not counted towards the sales figures.

3. Snow Hill is a commuter destination station so the footfall statistics do not relate to the sales figures.

4. Snow Hill, together with Moor Street, is an interchange station for passengers from the Kidderminster/Stourbridge line wishing to catch trains from New Street. These passengers are not counted in the statistics.--DonBarton 20:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

See also:Talk:Manchester Victoria station and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Usage

Simply south 20:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


Do you think this should be mentioned in the main article? Simply south 23:11, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The figures are completly pointless - Snow Hill useage of about 900 people a day is clearly wrong.

[edit] St Chad's station ?

Summer 2006 - Midland Metro and Network Rail are building a new entrance to Snow Hill Station, allegedly to be called St Chad's. This sub-station is between Lionel St and Great Charles St Queensway, with entrances on either side of the railway. It'll also be a last stop on the metro if Snow Hill Metro has to close because of building work on the city centre route.

[edit] Leamington Spa

Why has someone removed reference to local services to Leamington Spa and claiming that they only go to Dorridge?. G-Man * 20:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Copying part of the message I posted at User talk:G-Man, the majority of Central Trains' services on the line to Leamington Spa terminate at Dorridge nowadays, with only occasional early morning/late evening trains to/from Leamington (see PDF timetable). This was the reason behind my change to that section. --RFBailey 22:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The service still runs to Leamington though, to say it doesn't is misleading. G-Man * 22:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

To say that it does it perhaps even more misleading, as this is only a very occasional service (rather than every 20 minutes). But I don't want to start an argument. --RFBailey 23:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)