Talk:Bird vocalization

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[edit] Subheadings

Could this page not be broken down into sub-headings? it is a little confusing at the moment

[edit] Cleanup

I agree about the subheadings, and I also think it needs more from the behavioral side of ornithology, some birds with famous songs, duets, loud songs, etc. —JerryFriedman 00:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could someone record a starling singing?

The starling image is terrific. Could someone record a starling singing so the image could have an associated audio clip? --Jtir 19:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

You can use the template {{reqaudio}} to make audio file requests. You could also place this on the starling page. This page should definitely have links to relevant songs throughout, not just a commons link at the end. Richard001 06:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
There are some starling sounds on Freesound. Shyamal 09:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misdirected link

Is there any reason the 'music' link in the introduction redirects to Avril Lavigne? 144.124.16.28 09:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC) On a second look a lot of the links in the introduction seem biased. For example 'some people' redirects to an article on insanity (implying that anyone who considers birdsong music is insane) and 'cult movements' redirects to hippies.

Yikes! That is some badly missed vandalism. The whole intro was replaced with nonsense really. Thanks for pointing that out. Sabine's Sunbird talk 11:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Bird vocalization

A move of this page to Bird vocalization is under discussion on the bird project talk page. This article would include material on bird call, song, behavioural aspects, learning, mimicry, call semantics, sonograms, use of calls in systematics, acoustic ecology etcetera. Comments here or on the bird project talk page are welcome. Shyamal 03:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The article has now been upgraded to be more suitable for the title of bird vocalization, but the move seems to be rather tricky with a large number of incoming links, a disambiguation page for bird song etc. So leaving it as is for now. Shyamal 15:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NWF article

I saw an article in the National Wildlife Federation magazine about bird song, specifically about the groups of birds that learn their song and aren't born knowing it, and thought the information might be useful to this article. Here's a link to the article if anyone's interested:[1]. I think it would also provide a source for the dialect fact. --Jude. 18:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] messed-up sentence

I can't tell what this means (from "Learning"). Someone who knows, please fix it.

The early song is "plastic" and variable and it takes two or three months to and the song is perfect and non-varying when the bird becomes sexually mature.'

On the other hand, in "Anatomy" I took a guess that "it" in the following sentence meant "the bird" (not "the syrinx"):

It controls the pitch by changing the tension on the membranes and controls both pitch and volume by changing the force of exhalation.

—JerryFriedman 06:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I am responsible for the first bit and hopefully it is now resolved. Shyamal 06:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah, those editing errors that are invisible to the editor. I have generated many of them myself. —JerryFriedman 21:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] learning and neurophysiology section

I just cleaned up both of these sections, adding a little and taking away a little. Hopefully it's less scattered (there was a lot of information for learning in the neurophysiology section). Let me know what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agutwin (talk • contribs) 21:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I added a little more to the auditory feedback section, and moved it to a subheading off of learning. I think that it shouldn't be it's own heading because it is so tied to the learning section, also it makes everything a little more organized to have it this way. Agutwin (talk) 18:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)