Talk:Biometric passport

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How do I get a German passport, my mother is German and father is English. I have lived in England all my life but would like to apply for a German passport. My mother passed away 6 years ago, am I still entiteled to a German passport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.153.193 (talk) 21:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Passports in Europe

The article says that the European version of the bimetric passports would have fingerprint scans. I recently applied and received my French passport and I did not have to give any sort of fingerprint. And I know for a fact that I have never given my fingerprints in France. Just FYI

It does actually say "staged" biometrics including fingerprints, and lower down says "None of the issued biometric passports mentioned above include fingerprints. Addition of digital fingerscans to German passports is planned for March 2007" NinjaKid 14:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The EU directive to include fingerprints into ePassports has not come into effect yet. When it does, these passports will include an additional access control called Extended Access Control (EAC) that will control who and which nations will be able to retrieve the fingerprints.

[edit] passports in Europe

Im husband of EU citizens,my nationality is indian i m not member of EUcitizens , so can i abel to get new biometric passport??

How many EU citizens are you husband to? NinjaKid 14:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes you are able to receive a biometric passport. theyve been issued to ALL uk passport holders —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.17.122.196 (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Singapore biometric passports

Added a section for Singapore biometric passports. --Brandon 09:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CRTICISM

here is more information on the problems faced by epassport on the UK and europe [1]

[edit] ICAO Passports COULD be Citizen Controlled and secured

I was very surprised to read the article on biometrics passports. It is clearly subjectively positive favoring the claim that ICAO passports are anywhere nearly secure enough to be deployed on the scale presently forced through by a few governments.

At the Id World in Milan we had a session on Electronic passports where I was invited to talk and the head of the ICAO working group on standardization was heading the panel. http://www.priway.com/docs/idworld_passport_engberg20061129.pdf

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.237.34.236 (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] U.S. Biometric Passports

I think that the reason the US is not using iris recognition or fingerprints in its new biometric passport has less to do with keeping down the cost, and more to do with the general aversion in the US to "Big Brother". Many people in the US would revolt, if they were told that in order to get a passport they needed to be fingerprinted or have some other biometric recording made. Sure, cost is a factor, but it's not the main factor. Steggall 14:18 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Well, some states (I know California for sure) require fingerprints when obtaining a driver's licence. There doesn't seem to be much of a revolt against that. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:38, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

"...though they still expect that nearly all new or renewed passports issued by the department to American citizens will be biometric by the end of 2006, other sources say it won't happen until mid-2007." This should be updated, as it is now mid-2007. I just received my first U.S. passport yesterday, issued by the State Department, and it has the biometric feature. So it seems likely that the conversion has happened, but at the moment I don't have the time to research exactly when it happened. --LarryGilbert 22:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is a 'European' Passport?

The term 'European Passport' is used in this article, but without defining 'European' in this context. Does it mean the European Union (25 countries)? Or the European Economic Area (another 3 countries: including Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)? Or does it include other European Countries such as Ukraine, Russia, Moldova, Bosnia? Or all 56 members of the OCSE (I would doubt it)? Some clarification would be helpful. Simhedges 23:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's referring to the EU - the leaflet that came with my British biometric passport says "In line with new European Union standards, we are also considering including fingerprints in biometric passports in the future." --Jonnymoblin 20:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British biometric passport

Does anyone know if the Identity and Passport Service has stopped issuing the old non-biometric passports? I know that my younger sister received a child biometric passport, so they must be well on their way with implementing it. Also, is the bit about applying from the British Embassy needed? --Jonnymoblin 20:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations...

There's a whole lot needed in this article... rootology (T) 23:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More information on UK Biometrics

I run fraud lessons for a finance company in how to detect false forms of ID. We already discuss the security measures in the old red european machine readable passports, but there isn't enough data around to properly train people on the new UK biometric passports. Does anyone have any pictures of the visa pages, UV reactions, watermarks, latent images, destriperfs or any of the other features? If so, can you upload them? (Please be careful to block out any personal information before you do!) NinjaKid 14:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flexibility and Rigidity of Biometric Passports

The new biometric passports appear to have something in common: the chip page is rigid. I am avoiding renewing my passport like the plague - for years I've placed my passport in my back jeans pocket, and the passport bends to the contours of my rear as you'd expect from a paper document.

Certain countries, like Australia, take delight in punishing their citizens for the slightest infractions. I can just see that snapped chip pages will be a great source of revenue for the Australian Government.

What prevents governments from being pragmatic and having a flexible chip page?

[edit] Update

I've noted French passports have a chip but they are entirely flexible just like the old Australian / American / UK passports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.58.234.53 (talk) 12:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pakistani Passport Photo

It's interesting to note that the cover photo of what is stated as being a biometric Pakistani passport, does not bear the symbol that most other electronic passports appear to have.

[edit] Just to add...

The country of Macedonia has recently distributed biometric passports amongst its citizens.

[edit] Moldavian biometric passport

Hi, I have just added a paragraph on Moldavian biometric passport.--Passportistca (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Passportistca