User talk:Bilbobag

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Ocean Grove, New Jersey, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. This is especially important when dealing with biographies of living people, but applies to all Wikipedia articles. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are already familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add your reference to the article. Thank you. JGHowes talk - 21:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Ralph foto test 1.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Ralph foto test 1.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 16:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] February 2008

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Ocean Grove, New Jersey. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. JGHowes talk - 17:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Ocean Grove, New Jersey, you will be blocked from editing.

I add that, if reliable sources exist, you should bring them to the talk page to discuss the matter. Unfortunately, Xlibris is not considered a reliable source, as it permits self (or "vanity") publishing, which does not meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability. Thank you. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:43, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You have been blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 12 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for Repeated addition of material to Ocean Grove, New Jersey article without reliable sources after multiple warnings. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You cannot continue to add material to this article without a reliable source. Once your block expires, please discuss the information and possible sources on the article's talk page (or here). Continuing to revert the article may result in additional, longer blocks. Thank you. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 15:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

{{unblock|Sincerely apologize.Was not trying to start confrontation. Am a 40 year Ocean Grover. Was having trouble learning your protocols. If you look at the last 4 - 5 postings I've made, you will see that each one has added new information, or source material. Was desirous of adding articles from 1992-94 in publication known as Ocean Grove Times. Unfortunately, this publication is out of business. Do believe that addition of beach badge issued by the governing body of Ocean Grove (the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association) qualifiies as a reliable, authoritative source. If you disagree, please let me know}}

I have contacted the admin that has blocked you to see about lifting the block early. While waiting for the block to be lifted, you may want to read and familiarize yourself with a few helpful pages about citing sources and using talk pages:
It does look like you are new here, and so were perhaps not aware of some of the finer points of Wikipedia editing. That's somewhat understandable, but use this block as a quick lesson in avoiding conflict. While being bold and editing articles is strongly encouraged, it is generally considered bad form to re-add something to an article several times when it appears that someone else is challenging the material by removing it. See the BRD cycle I cite above. The proper course of action when someone challenges an edit of yours is to go to the talk page to discuss the addition, so that you can perhaps help reach a consensus on how to add the information properly. If you need any further help, feel free to ask here, or leave a message on my talk page when the block is lifted. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

After discussing with the blocking admin, it seems clear that you now understand policies and wish to work within them. The block is being lifted. Please read my above suggestions for working within Wikipedia conduct expectations carefully. Good luck and happy editing!

Request handled by: Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ocean Grove article

To assist in the process, I've started a discussion at the Talk Page for the Ocean Grove article, with suggestions on how the information about Ralph the Fisherman could be incorporated into the article. See: Talk:Ocean Grove, New Jersey#"Ralph the Fisherman" JGHowes talk - 19:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ralph The Fisherman

Saw your comment about tis article. Doesn't the fact that A) he sits to this day on the Ocean Grove pier, and B) That Ocean Grove's governing body (Camp Meeting Assoc.) placed his image on the 2002 beach badge prove that he exists? Bilbobag (talk) 13:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

  • An independent and reliable source that states that he sits on the pier and appears on the beach badge would prove he exists, and might even be a claim of notability. Other than that, we're just asserting that he exists, not proving it. Alansohn (talk) 15:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't a photo of the 2002 beach badge, that is issued by the governing body of Ocean Grove (a third party), indicate he exists? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bilbobag (talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

  • The picture would show that there's something on the badge, but what is it? Why is it there? That's what a reliable source would tell. Alansohn (talk) 17:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Ocean Grove Record

A tag has been placed on Ocean Grove Record requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Gromlakh (talk) 23:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Ocean Grove Record

A tag has been placed on Ocean Grove Record requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Gromlakh (talk) 23:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] PCH page

You're welcome JGHowes talk - 21:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)