Talk:Bill Woodfull

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Good article Bill Woodfull has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
An entry from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on May 29, 2007.
May 29, 2007 Good article nominee Listed

[edit] Melbourne High School

We know he became headmaster of Melbourne High, where he taught, inter alia, Keith Miller. We're now saying he previously attended the same school as a student. Is this true? JackofOz 01:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

It appears to be true. From The Oxford Companion to Australian cricket (ISBN 0-19-553575-8), p.602 : Melbourne High School figured prominently in his life as Woodfull was educated there, returning as a mathematics teacher and later becoming principal. Tintin 04:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. JackofOz 04:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good article nomination

It's basically there. A few things:-

Specific comments
  • Woodfull batted in a manner which had little aesthetic pleasure or grace, with Wisden describing stating that "at first sight, he gave the impression of being clumsy" — Needs a page reference in Wisden.
  • Despite this, he scored consistently through good placement and powerful drives generated by his strong forearms — Link "drives", if possible.
  • which yielded names such as "The unbowlable" — should that be such as "the unbowlable", small "t"?
  • Woodfull was selected for Herbie Collins’ team — maybe for Herbie Collins’ Australian test team, to specifically state the fact? I'm not sure about this one, though.
  • There seems to be a large break just above the "Bodyline" header.
  • "I do not want to see you, Mr Warner. There are two teams out there. One is playing cricket and the other is not" — reference for the exact quote?
  • Is there any way to fix the fact that the cquote symbols don't line up vertically?
  • Jack Fingleton was bowled by Larwood — link for bowled, hasn't been linked in a while.
  • with Bert Oldfield unable to bat due to a fractured skull[12] He made 67 — full stop missing.
  • Upon retiring immediately afterhe — space.
  • career as a mathematics teacher and served — link maths and/or teacher.
  • He was inducted into the Australian Cricket Hall of Fame in — relink AC Hall of Fame.
General comments
  • Should dashes for seasons, eg. 1932-33 Ashes series, be replaced with ndashes?
  • Any other pictures at all? Maybe a picture of the leaked comments, if it was written, or something?

Otherwise, I'm happy to pass this. Daniel 09:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

There we are, apart from the cquote thing, I have done the rest. I don't think the ndash is mandatory, and it is consistent atm. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Passed GA. Nice going, Blnguyen. Daniel 06:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Factual errors corrected

I have corrected the following factual errors:

  • Australia won the 2nd Test, it didn't lose
  • Woodfull batted 89 minutes in the 1st inns at Adelaide, not one hour
  • The 532 runs set for victory was not a record; many matches had much higher targets: eg. England set 742 in 1st Test 1928-29.
  • The Bill Woodfull gate is only one of several in the Great Southern Stand
  • The famous cable sent to MCC was sent on the fifth day at Adelaide
  • Australia was all out 193 in 2nd inns at Adelaide, not 9/193. When a batsman is absent for whatever reason, the team is still recorded as all out.
  • Removed the sentence containing "moral outrage" because I checked the quoted source (Frith p 248) & it wasnt there. Besides, it wasn't a correct rendering of the situation.

Haven't checked over all of this article, so I will check remainder when I get time.61.68.131.74 10:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes. Do you think the Bradman article should contain a line or two about Lord's 1934 ? Tintin 12:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
What probably needs to go in is this: for quite a while, Bradman was struggling during the 1934 tour, and was out trying to slog early in the innings quite a few times. The best remembered example is when he got out to Verity after getting a message from Woodfull to calm down in the Lords test. Remember though, it was "Verity's match" and this is a biog of the don. I still have a lotta work to do on the article, and some sections need more work like this. Think i got rsi at the mo, typing it all out...feel free 2 have a go! It was a revealing period in Bradman's life, cos many thought that bodyline had rattled him when it was really a case of bad health. After his innings at Leeds, they had to carry him to the massage table and take his gear off for him he was that knackered. Verity was one of many bowlers who they said had sorted Bradman...read O'Reilly's book, he thought Bradman succeeded cos as a bowler, you could never put the same trick over him twice.61.68.131.74 13:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
What I intended to say is that the article should have something about Bradman on stickies and the views about it from both camps. Anything on that subject will naturally be centred around Lord's '34. (And no, I don't plan to add it myself. You have written most of it and I don't feel comfortable adding a couple of lines in between :-) ) Tintin 13:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)