Talk:Bill Phillips (author)

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Contents 1 Untitled comment 2 Missing Information 3 Citing reference 4 Image copyright problem with Image:BodyForLife.jpg

[edit] Untitled comment

Update references see [1] for verification of data. Glen Stollery 15:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Information

This reads too much like the jacket cover of one of Bill's books. There needs to be more NPOV information. Things like James Bradshaw and his connection to Bill and EAS. Bill and his parntership with Dr. Scott Connelly and Met-Rx. Bill's benign tumor in 1995. Bill's infidelities and (failed) relationship with Ami Cusack. Bill's connection to Jose Canseco. The failure of Muscle Media from 1996 onwards. That Bill is a big Jim Carrey fan.

It just feels like this article is the coporate bio that Bill's agent would fax to a newspaper - it's very one-sided. I'll start adding some stuff as soon as I can verify all the info. Yankees76 16:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Fair call. It wasn't meant to look that way but the stuff you mention is a lot harder to verify! (yes I'm lazy) Thankfully there's the MM2K CD-Rom which is searchable so I'll hunt some more out too. As always thanks for the feedback :) Glen Stollery ^{(My contributions)} 18:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Cool. Some of the stuff like the tumor and Ami Cusack is public knowledge so I can add that soon. I like the write up, I just didn't want the average Wikipedia reader to think that Bill was all smiles and chocolate. ;) Yankees76 18:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes but a tumor and broken relationships aren't really "other side" kinda stuff. The really interesting stuff will be harder to verify. Tho his infidelities may be easier to understand now Ami's 'come out'! Glen Stollery ^{(My contributions)} 18:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay I've done it. Stayed up late and wrote a fair bit. Feel free to go through and question anything. I have a nice pic of Bill with a moustache from 1992 that I'd love to use but don't know the copyright so I scanned some MM2K covers instead.Yankees76 05:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Great job! (Yep I have the same photo - ghastly!) Hey you may wanna reference a couple of the claims on there. I added that he would have pics in MM2K with the bunnies so that's cool (phew!) and Sly and Demi were mentioned in MM2K - is that where you read about Jose? Oh, and the engagement info do you recall where that's from? I'll see if I can find some refs in any issues of MM2K, otherwise could be seen as libellous (by Bill I mean). I added a few extra bits and pieces too let me know if you agree. Marvellous effort my man Glen Stollery ^{(My contributions)} 07:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! With the info, if it's in MM2K or any other magazine it could be considered public domain. I pulled much of the personal info from Testoterone.net (the Jose reference specifically)[2] and the Cusack and cancer references [3]. Interestingly, Cusack was a lesbian during the season of Survivor she was on, makes me wonder. Yankees76 14:11, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citing reference

As someone who read MM2K for a few years around a decade ago, both the updates and the background are surprising.

If you're looking for "what's next" for improving the article, I think it needs more specific information about which references back up which statements. Right now there are a lot of controversial statements, and a list of links. This is especially important for Wikipedia articles on living persons.

The best way to give a reference for a statement is like this:

Jim was big<ref>{{cite web
|url=http:://john.com/my-friends
|title=John's webpage about his friends
|quote=My friend Jim was big
|}}</ref>

Hope that helps. Gronky 22:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

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