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[edit] Spanish twist label shot ??? :-)

Takes me just a few minutes to add it. Stephan KŒNIG 13:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

If you have a scan of the label, please go ahead. 23skidoo 15:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capital letters...

...I think it's better to write, seeing you wrote the others with them, the others too  :-) I just corrected some mispellings and incomplete titles  :-). See you later, alligator! Stephan KŒNIG 17:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I made some corrections. The word "and" is not capitalized in a title unless it's the first or last word. Also it's "Bill Haley with Haley's Comets" not "Bill Haley's" with Haley's Comets. I removed the label name information as that's not really necessary for this part of the list. Also at no time in his life did Rudy Pompilli ever use the spelling Rudi on his first name. 23skidoo 18:13, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
"Bill Haley with Haley's: quite perfect: it was mistyped by myself  :-)
"not really necessary": ok, no problem
I'm sure all the words must be capitalized... Stephan KŒNIG 11:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm a newspaper and book editor. Trust me, not all words are capitalized in English titles. 23skidoo 14:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
OK, no problem, my dear :-) but in French it is so/like that :-) Stephan KŒNIG 18:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rock the joint / New rock the joint

I told you a few days ago this song firstly appeared as "Rock..." then issued in stereo as "New rock..." on a DECCA E.P.: want to get the reference? :-) Stephan KŒNIG 17:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I just spoke to a friend who has the original MONO single: it was released as "New Rock the Joint". 23skidoo 12:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The mono version was only called "Rock the joint", then renamed as New rock the joint for the stereo version only! I'm sure your friend has no good ears :-)
planned concerts such as a fall 1980 tour of Germany, and proposed recording sessions in New York and Memphis were cancelled: Bill was signed again for a new concert in Liège in 1980 but died not long before... Stephan KŒNIG

:Rock the joint "1" = mono version; Rock the joint "2" = mono version as well and New rock the joint (retitled) = stereo version. My friend Terry and I have very good ears, indeed. S.K.

[edit] Rudy Pompilli

At no time did Rudy Pompilli ever use the spelling "Rudi" for his first name. (???)23skidoo 12:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Do you think so?
No one knew about that fact: "R U D O L P H" "P O M P I L L I I" americanized his first name in "Rudy" (and written a little bit before as "Rudi" (DECCA Session 22nd.09.1955) OK? :-)"Rudi" was taken from the Bear Family annotations on the booklet (Decca Sessions, Sept. 22, 1955 then the used spelling of the Decca Sessions on March 12, 1956 was "Rudy") inside the 5 LP box set issued in 1981. Anyway, the ypsilon did not/still doesn't exist in Italian and the "X" and the "W" as well...

and the latter was only a mispelling!!! Stephan KŒNIG

No, he was born Rudolph Clement Pompilii and Haley asked him to change the spelling to Pompilli because it would look like a printer's error. He was never known as "Rudi". Please see "The Sax That Rocked the World" by Chris Gardner (Now Dig This Issue 275, February 2006). 23skidoo 16:59, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry: I saw something like POMPI|||| (characters were too small). Therefore, no problem as POMPILII then re-written as POMPILLI which was based on a Bill's advice... 81.246.205.39 09:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC) (S.K.)
Chris Gardner??? : a website full of mispellings (or mistypings???) "Stocking" instead of "Stockin'", I'm gonna dry every tear...instead of ev'ry, Ten gallon Stetson (With a hole in the crown): completely fanciful title!!! and so on...Deal me a hand I play the game anyway???

Stephan KŒNIG 18:07, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Chris Gardner has responded to your comments at Talk:Bill Haley. Please don't try to convince me that Pompilli's first name was spelled anything other than Rudy or Rudolph. I've seen his funeral notice and Chris got his spelling directly from Rudy's birth certificate. So there is confirmation from both ends of the man's life. 23skidoo 22:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

::::Quite a pity instead of collaborating... 81.243.173.11 22:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Keep this up and I'll ban you again. Say what you like I have the proof from Pompilli's family. Try to find a source that tops that one. Any use of Rudi is an error. Prove me wrong. 23skidoo 23:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Bear Family annotations in the 5 LP box-set...(1981) Pfffff.

[edit] Bill Haley in Mexico

The Whisky a go go LP was released under the name Bill Haley and His Comets (Mr. Go Go/live) then issued in the UK on EMBER in 1969. Not 1968!!!

[edit] Big Al Thompson = ...

a.k.a. Albert Scholz...S.K. (always the same nunskull) :-) who was related as the brother of Hank Thompson but the latter was NOT the singer of Honky Tonk Angels...

[edit] Twist español and Spanish twist...

The original version sung in Spanish was released in May 1961 and the English one in September 1961...as a "favor to the Organization" (sic). 81.244.186.196 21:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know about the favor bit, but you're correct that I have the recording order backwards. Will fix. 23skidoo 21:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Anyway, I am quite sure! No filthy garbage, my dear. By request of mafioso Vito Genovese. Bill was completely unable to pay the maffia back (IRS on his back for 140.000 USD. At a certain time, Franny Beecher quits the band without to have been paid. Then Billy Williamson, in his turn, throws in the sponge... Stephan KŒNIG 12:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I know Haley got himself involved with the Mob in the early 60s, but unfortunately something like this needs a reputable source in order to be included in the article. Interesting stuff, though. 23skidoo 15:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DIM and Maya labels

What about Spanish labels DIM and Maya ??? Stephan KŒNIG 20:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

DIM is Dimsa, while Maya was a reissue label. Haley never actually recorded for either; they just re-released recordings made for Orfeon (and also Decca and Sonet). If we were to list all the re-issue labels, there would be hundreds. 23skidoo 13:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seeking confirmation that John Lane has died

If anyone with this on their watchlist has heard any news reports that John "Bam-Bam" Lane died on Feb. 18 (he ran one of the post-Haley editions of the Comets), please note it here. I'm seeking confirmation of this news before I put it into the article. 23skidoo 19:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill Haley live @ the Conservatory, LIège 14th May 1974

Would you like to get both photos again ? Tell me. S.K.

[edit] Album articles need images

Noting that Elvis, Chuck Berry and other contemporaries have articles about their individual record albums, I have started a series of articles on the album releases by the Comets. These articles need album cover images. I no longer submit images to Wikipedia, so someone else will need to do this. Please ensure any images are probably cited for fair use otherwise they'll just get deleted. 23skidoo 16:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Amazon review as source

As I understand WP:CITE, non-professoinal online sources such as the IMDb and Amazon reviews are not allowed as sources for citing facts in an article. In particular, I have removed a statement, sourced by an Amazon review, that stated that Freed and others began playing Rock Around the Clock because of the success of Shake Rattle and Roll and Dim Dim the Lights. None of my printed reference works nor my direct contacts related to Haley (yeah, yeah, WP:NOR) support this. The interest in Rock Around the Clock, as indicated in the new Rock n' Roll is Born documentary, came from Blackboard Jungle using it. Before that, it was seen as a failed single no different than, say, Haley's earlier failed single "Straight Jacket". 23skidoo (talk) 12:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)