Talk:Bill Everett

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I'm a bit confused. The picture ws removed for having "no copyright information," but I clearly marked it as "copyright 1973, Marvel Comics. What am I missing? Carlo 14:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I think what the admins needed was a choice in the upload page's final pulldown menu, the one that says why something can go up legally. From what I can see, you would need to choose "single panel from a comic book" (not sure the exact wording off the top of my head), since that is indeed a single panel. --Tenebrae 21:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try that. Carlo 03:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why lead with an obit tribute picture?

No disrespect against the obvious admiration shown by leading with that sentimental Marie Severin/Frank Giacoia drawing, but it begs the question of what Everett himself drew while he was alive.

An encyclopedia entry should be an introduction, not a eulogistic document. (Is eulogy a form of wiki's taboo un-neutral POV?) Therefore some of BE's own artwork ought to be there instead. I'd suggest one of his self-inked '70s Sub-Mariner big panels, some of those are beautiful stuff, great ink technique, and better drawings than the current MS/FG one. AC 18:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't want to be the first to say it, but yeah, that's an awfully biiiiiiig picture. Maybe a smaller version would be good along with some actual Everett art. First things first, though -- Wild Bill's entry really needs and deserves a lot of work. I've done some of the early career stuff, and put in a lot of References we all can use, but it's a bit daunting, innit? -- Tenebrae 20:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

As the guy who put the picture there in the first place, I must admit you have a point, although it pains me. However, there was no picture there prior to that one. I'm not sure where there is artwork on the web available, although there must be some, and I'm not sure what single picture could do the subject justice. In Steranko's History of Comics, there was a great full-page Everett drawing (Pencil and ink - no color) of Namor shooting out of the sea and belting the Human Torch. Maybe that one. Carlo 18:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I have scanner, as well as the Steranko HOC volume in question, it's a nice pin-up style piece with few distracting details, but I'm awfully partial to Everett's final Sub-Mariner comics. What's remarkable about Everett is that, at least to my eyes, his technique improved toward the end.

A survey of those SM comics shows all or some new inside art in 50-55, 57-58, 61, plus covers for 55,57,59,61, & maybe 64 which looks to have been finished by others. Everett also is credited with having plotted 59 & 60, in addition to the stories he drew in earlier issues. The colorist isn't credited, it might be Everett; some of it is unusually good.

It's difficult trying to pick representative images from these. Besides the panels that are inseperable from their pages, some are riddled with balloons, (which might not be a bad thing), and others aren't the sort of full body front-facing character pin-up shots usually favored by wikipedians. Everett draws some great girls and women, (his plots are full of 'em too!), excels at wild compositions and poses reminiscent of Jack Cole, invents strange monsters and rampaging sea-life, loves explosive sound effects incorporated into compositions, 'S' shaped water currents, diorama-like scenery, dialogue as oratory, original epithets and exclamations, etc. Given a choice between trying to fit Everett's art into a cookie cutter mold, (say by trying to find the most Buscema-like poses), or showing what's unique about it, I'd go for the latter.

Is there a link to the current wiki scan policy for copyrighted images? Meanwhile, here's some later Everett already on the web:

   http://www.chivian.com/chivian/sub/SubMariner1.57.html
   http://www.comicartville.com/subby61splash.gif
   http://www.ess.comics.org/ess/everett/subby/evsubm04.html
   http://www.ess.comics.org/ess/everett/subby/evsubm05.html
   http://www.ess.comics.org/ess/everett/subby/evsubm06.html

AC 05:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Pretty good selection there. I'll hunt for a piece of his nascent '40s work and definitely one from his 1950s peak; his Submariner stuff in the Young Men reprints are just gorgeous. Non-copyrighted photo of him might be tough. --Tenebrae 02:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)