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4 Northern Irish
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[edit] 1798 Rebellion

I don't know if this is the right place to put this question - but I don't know what was controversial about what I wrote on the 1798 rebellion page. Thats what happened - isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by McLintock 71 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Have a read of WP:WEASEL for words to be avoided and how to write sentences might help, happy editing. BigDunc^Talk 15:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BanditoLoco (talk · contribs)

Thanks for the heads up and great observation. Interesting comment posted by Bandit on User talk:BanditoLoco. Care to take this sockpuppet/meatpuppet investigation further? I think that statement followed by initial edit vandalizing your page constitute confirmation of the sock relationship. I'm sure you have insight as to who the "many profiles" are. Toddst1 (talk) 19:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I will put a report on WP:SSP but i'm not aware off hand of the other accounts maybe Cyclonemin is as the second edit they made was to that page. BigDunc^Talk 19:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi BigDunc, thanks for your reversion of the vandalism. I don't recall having any contact with either of the two accounts you've given me details of so I suspect that there is another yet unknown sockpuppet which we have had contact with? Feel free to submit a report to WP:SSP and if they can't pick it up we can try WP:RFCU. Thanks! Regards, CycloneNimrod ^talk?_contribs? 20:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently, the three of us are collaborating with some sinister plan. I know User:WLU, but I'm pretty sure you and I have not crossed paths before. Did you forget to invite me to the Secret Evil Plan meetings? I feel left out. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Forgot to send out the memo that day ;) I have filed a sock report here I came across WLU when he reverted UDACommander on my page. Maybe you might have more suspects to add to the list. BigDunc^Talk 21:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can remember, those are the only ones I've noticed. At least now I know how we got to be in the same cabal; I guess we agreed that maybe a blatant vandal shouldn't be unblocked, even if he did make a dozen requests. How sinister of us. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

We are very bad, you just cant win sometimes :) BigDunc^Talk 21:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Irish

How is it that a person born in Northern Ireland is "not Northern Irish"? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No offence but you obviously know nothing of Irish politics, they are NOT Northern Irish. BigDunc^Talk 08:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I most certainly do. Perhaps you don't realise it's not a political category. It's a birthplace category. Anyway, if you object so much to it on "political" grounds, then would not the sensible thing to do be to place the person in Category:Irish escapees instead of the redundant Category:Escapees? POV may be clouding your thinking, of course. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It is not a birthplace category. Category:People from Belfast is a birthplace category, that category is not a birthplace category. Please stop adding contentious categories to biographical articles, especially ones about living people. Domer48 (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Who says it's not? I created it; supposedly I could define it as a birthplace/escapee one. So, what about my other points? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 08:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I was not aware you had any other points, I do not see any that have any merit and are in need of addressing. I repeat, please stop adding contentious categories to biograhpical articles, especially ones about living people. The sensible thing to do would be to stop adding or creating offensive categories in the first place, such as claimimg Angelo Fusco is British based on your own conjecture. Domer48 (talk) 09:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Let me restate the point I made above, since you were unaware of it. If you disagree with this category, would not the sensible thing to do be to place the person in another category, (like Category:Irish escapees, e.g.) instead of the redundant Category:Escapees? As for Angelo Fusco, you seemed to miss the point that the category in question identified the nationality of the granter of the pardon, not the nationality of the recipient. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure where this discussion is coming from, but people born in Northern Ireland can be considered British, Irish, Northern Irish, even Ulstermen or Ulsterwomen. As the area is contested it's usually polite to refer to the person in the manner to which they'd wish to be referred.Starviking (talk) 09:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I think that's good advice, which is why I would suggest changing the category to the appropriate one, rather than simply reverting a change that may not be accurate. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There has been a arther unfortunate tendency for some ditors to refuse to engage in the debate about this. I am yet to see a proper argument that Northern irish doesn't exist. There has been emphirical evidence produced many times that it does.Traditional unionist (talk) 12:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You are imposing a tag of Northern Irish on people that do not class themselves as such. BigDunc^Talk 12:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sable Starr

Hello, BigDunc, thanks for relisting my latest srticle on Maud de Braose. My article that you tagged yesterday was deleted as I slept last night by an American editor.(I am on CET).I had found more sources on Sable but it was already deleted. This is not an ego thing, I really believe she desrves her own article. Seeing as Wikipedia has a groupies cat, why shouldn't it include one of the most notable groupies of the 1970's along with Bebe Buell and Pamela Des Barres. I grew up in that time and place, I know how famous Sable was, far more so than Connie Hamzy who has her own article. The groupies cat is sparse because we aren't allowed to write articles about the real groupies. What irriates me is how so many editors, especially those in America, have a regional bias-if they have never heard of someone, well they cannot be important, so must be deleted ASAP. As I said, BigDunc, this isn't an ego trip, I don't care who submits the article, I just felt that Sable Starr merited an article and that other editor deleted my article too quickly.Thanks.Sorry for bothering you but I sort of regard you as my mentor here at Wikipedia.jeanne (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

With an article like that you have to be very careful of violating WP:BLP. Have a good read of that, sources have to be strictly adhered to on it. The refs you had were to groupies.com and cant recall the other IMO hardly the most reliable of sources wouldn't you agree. Also this seems to be a source of the article also not a relaible source. BigDunc^Talk 15:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Also see this page it gives you a lot of help in creating articles. BigDunc^Talk 15:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I suppose writing about a groupie could be rather dodgy, seeing as she was 15 years old in 1973 and most of the people I mentioned are alive. If I could just get my hands on a proper book about her which could be sourced with dates, names, page numbers, references etc I'd have another go. But until then, I guess my safest bet is to stick with my standard medieval heiresses. They're easier to source and cannot complain about libel!!!Thanks again, BigDunc.Cheers.15:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)