Talk:Big Brother (UK)

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February 17, 2007 Featured article candidate Not promoted
Big Brother (UK) was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: April 1, 2007
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[edit] BBBM - Russell's departure

Russell even more recently announced that he'd be presenting this series. However channel4 have removed the programme's forum from their community.

[edit] Nominations

Why have the nominations been moved to the same page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.145.241.135 (talk) 14:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

They were merged by Ohconfucius (talk · contribs), who gave WP:BOLD as his reason. Tra (Talk) 16:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Format section

As the format of the show is relatively different to its foreign counterparts, i.e. no Head of Household, etc. should we perhaps have a brief format of the show with information about a weekly task, nominations and eviction? It only needs to be a brief format, and the things that make it different from international versions. I can make a basic format later on. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 18:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I've added a section about this. Tra (Talk) 19:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia - Number of celebrities

"Following the end of Celebrity Big Brother 2007, 154 housemates have inhabited the house (including the 8 participants in Teen Big Brother). 46 of those were celebrities, including Chantelle Houghton, the non-celebrity contestant in Celebrity Big Brother 2006 and Jade Goody, who appeared in two series."

Why is Chantelle counted in the "Celebrity" figure? Surely she's just as much a "celebrity" as the none "celebrity" edition contestants in that she may have become famous after the show, but she wasn't famous before she went in. If there aren't any objections then I'll reduce the number by one and remove the bit there talking about her. Sven945 01:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

She's included as a celebrity because she was in Celebrity Big Brother. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Future of Big Brother

"Due to the disaster with Celebrity Big Brother's fifth series Channel 4 are in talks about the future of Big Brother, which is about to launch its eighth series, and that the axe may fall after the upcoming series and there will not be a ninth. This news comes with a blow after the axe fell on Celebrity Big Brother which will not be returning for a sixth series."

Source? 172.202.199.108 22:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was likely just CBB was up for the chop, not BB itself? Chris as I am Chris 17:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, your borth wrong, Channel 4 just last month comissioned series 9-11 of Big Brother and series 6-9 of Celebrity Big Brother.

I never heared this, sounds like big news, and I havn't seen it mentioned anywhere? Chris as I am Chris 12:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

Apologies, but I have going to have to fail the article. There are several entire sections without sources and none of the images have fair use rationale. Also, there is a trivia section which should be prosified and integrated into the main article. -- Scorpion 04:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article names

According to WP:BIGBRO#Naming articles, "articles about a Big Brother series are named Big Brother (country series number)." Yet all the UK articles are Big Brother year (UK), can anyone give any insight as to why this is? --LorianTC 11:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

They were all changed last summer, much to my objections...Dalejenkins 18:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time to move

BBLB, BBBM, BBBB and so on to a new page it's getting messy here. And with the new host of Big Mouth this summer, the whole section will need a rewrite as its currently just Russells format, which will probably be changed.

Time to remove more like.. the amount of times the page has been merged/moved.. although I think it's only one. But I guess this'll need a vote given a lot of people want to keep it as one.. but others want them split. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 10:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this main page is far too crowded, unfortunatly I don't know how to create a new page for this. If someone else could it would really help. User: Karl100589 I vote for a SPLIT. Dalejenkins 18:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Needs moving yes to seperates article or articles. AxG @ ►talk 15:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I vote for split Philip1992 14:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)Philip1992

[edit] Bird Ambience

Why do they insist on putting that shitty bird ambience over the live broadcast on E4? Its not like anyone who watches Big Brother is going to be offended by the bad language. And if it does why dont they just bleep out swear words, instead of that bird sound?

They have to do it for legal reasons whenever someone says something that they can't broadcast on TV, e.g. swearing before 9pm, personal info about people outside the house, copyrighted song lyrics etc. They probably use bird sound because it's easier to block out a long block of conversation than a single word. Tra (Talk) 12:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is NOT an internet forum. For more infomation on what Wikipedia is not, see WP:NOT. Happy editing, Dalejenkins 19:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC).

[edit] BBBM will need a re-write soon..

I think the 2004-2006/2007-present thing is okay for now.. but soon we're going to have to go about re-writing the entire section. - ǀ Mikay ǀ 15:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] {{fact}} Patrol

I'm putting {{fact}} at the end of each phrase that doesn't have a source in an urgent hope to get some sources for this article, which it desperately needs. Dalejenkins 17:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Very silly. "The main shows are hosted by Davina McCall and narrated by Marcus Bentley." need's a source? ... 172.159.140.122 10:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Dale, that looks appalling. Also, citations are not required in the lead section, so long as the fact is cited later in the article. If you're worried about citations, I'd use the generic unreferenced tag. I'd save the fact tags for any particularly worrying or controversial detail (for e.g., something that violates WP:BLP). The JPStalk to me 12:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Last Names Of Housemates From All Eight Series

There was Discussion on the last names of BB8 housemates and how they show be displayed in the info box. Well why dont we keep it at first names until the series is over so that the order is of the way they left the house. But for Series 1-7 It would already be displayed like that as they have finished, But intil BB8 finishe dit could be on a First name basis. I like to veiw there last names in the info box and thought this would be an good idea?.

[edit] Paris Hilton, one of the contestants for the next Celebrity Big Brother!!!

By the way, I'm 100% sure this is true, as I heard it on Gemini T FM, and Paris was given a short interview and said that she wanted the UK public to like her more!!! So I'm not sure if Celebrity Big Brother has really been scrapped!!! from Jonni 11:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because she said she wants to do it doesn't mean it hasn't been scrapped. — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 11:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
It is also possible she was talking about the 2009 Celebrity series that is likely to happen. 12bigbrother12 20:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
She can still be in Big Brother Hijacked so it could still be true In23065 (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Sponsors

Virgin Mobile have comfirmed that they are sponsoring Celebrity Hijack not Virgin Media.--Hiltonhampton (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Virgin Media is still sponsoring Celebrity Hijack they are just focusing on the Virgin Mobile. Correct me if I am wrong isn't Virgin Mobile UK owned by Virgin Media? ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 08:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe Virgin Mobile joined with NTL to form Virgin Media, so yes. anemone│projectors 15:55, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Virgin Media do own Mobile but it's been comfirmed that just mobile is sponsoring. Plus all of the idents are for Virgin Mobile.--Hiltonhampton (talk) 18:38, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed a line from Criticisms and controversy

I removed the following line from the Criticisms and controversy section, as it seems quite out of place. Im going to leave it here for archival purposes:

In the first Big brother housemate Nick Batmen broke one of the fundamental rules by convincing other housemates to nominate someone once the housemates discovered his plan he was made to leave the house. ĞavinŤing 09:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Why is this line in Criticisms and controversy

Does anyone know why the line below is in the Criticisms and controversy section because it does not seem like a criticism... does it???? And I don't think it caused any controversy either...

"January 2008 saw the replacement for Celebrity Big Brother, Big Brother Celebrity Hijack. Talented housemates (all aged 19 to 21) replaced the usual celebrity line-up and the celebrities 'became' Big Brother for days at a time. The series was shown on E4 instead of Channel 4. 'Hijackers' included US comic Joan Rivers, previous Big Brother's Big Mouth presenter Russell Brand, ex-footballer Ian Wright and Little Britain star Matt Lucas. Dermot O'Leary hosted both Big Brother's Little Brother and the eviction shows, previously presented by Davina McCall."

--Mikey-is-lost (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

You're right.. this shouldn't be in the article let alone Criticisms.. *removes* »—Mikay—talk—contribs→ 15:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)