Talk:Big Bang (group)

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Should we just get rid of the trivia? It's going to get really messy... Bopomofo 05:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I moved your question beneath the header. I hope you don't mind. Anyway...there's relevant trivia, and there's irrelevant. Things such as debut, and ad contracts, are somewhat relevant to the article. Like, "Big Bang has won contracts for different labels, including _____ and ______." It can be a sentence for now, in the main body. But all the fan numbers...unless they're notable, I think they're deletable. Heck, I'm gonna delete them right now. SKS2K6 06:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Vandalism

Okay, I'm not sure who it is, but someone keeps messing with the Big Bang page here. I understand that a lot of people (girls) like them, but putting in information like "Spouse: [insert name]" and "I LOVE HIM" shouldn't be put on their Wiki page. Save it for fansites and forums please, because this is the 2nd time in the past two days I've been trying keep the page intact.

I'm not getting mad at the people who did add that stuff, but I noticed that when it (the random comments) were added, some information would be deleted in it's place. I'm sure others as well as myself would appreciate it if those people didn't add in such things.

Thank you! =D

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[edit] Recent image

There needs to be a recent image of the FIVE members in the group. The original six member pic can be probably moved to somewhere else in the article.

[edit] Resources/References

Please find ACTUAL articles and not fan translated ones. Wordpress blogs do not cut it.

Until these other blogs learn to add sources, I think it'll be quite difficult to get them, considering the lack of Korean news in English.... SKS2K6 (talk) 08:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I guess as long as they're not from biased gossip blogs then it should be okay. Most blogs usually have unnecessary commentary from the writers. So far, http://krnloop.wordpress.com/ does a good job being a neutral resource for translated articles. It also includes the source of news, but no links to them (should be easy to search for them if necessary). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.226.12 (talk) 13:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
AGAIN, please do not cite sources that are biased blogs without sources. Allkpop does not count as a source. Neither does soompi. SKS2K6 (talk) 08:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
May I ask, how does Soompi not qualify for it? It is reliable and I don't think it's bias.AhnSoonKyung (talk) 13:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I think Soompi should be qualify for it as it is reliable and certainly not bias. Anyway, I edited the page and added numerous references. And honestly, some of them are mainly common sense: them winning the Daesang and such. Whoever had went and put all those citations tags on it must have honestly wanted to do so for fun or something.Cherrieslovable (talk) 04:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
It's only common sense to say something like "Mariah Carey is a singer", because it is clear and evident to anyone who has any knowledge about Mariah Carey. To say that someone writing all their songs is "common knowledge" is, well, untrue, because it is not. I know, for example, that Big Bang is a group with YG; that's basic knowledge. A member writing a majority of their songs is not common knowledge. Also, Soompi does not count as a reference because it is not a news source; it is a Korean pop fan site and it really has no journalistic credibility; besides, all their information is taken from other Korean news sources. Blogs should normally not be sources, because they also take their information from other sources. Please see TVXQ or Mariah Carey for a well-sourced page. This clearly is not. SKS2K6 (talk) 05:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Also, if something is "common knowledge", then there would be a source for it, no? For example, I found this. If you think something is fairly obvious, then point it out using sources. SKS2K6 (talk) 05:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I must say, I really want to add more references to this page (it is needed!!!). However, most news about the group is mainly in Korean and I'm not Korean, nor do I have the Korean language install into my computer. Is there actually an English site that is reliable for references?206.40.103.14 (talk) 01:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

It's difficult. The ones I got (to replace previous unreliable references or comments that were labelled as "references"), I found by typing in "Big Bang" in Korean along with other Korean terms (for example, "fashion" or "plagiarism"). The only English news sources for Korean pop would come from international media sites, for example, KBS World or the English website for the Chosun Ilbo newspaper. Sometimes, the Asian version of Time magazine might also have Korean pop articles, but they're usually only for the really noteworthy ones, such as Rain. SKS2K6 (talk) 03:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I think you misread the 2nd reply of this topic. Have you even checked out http://krnloop.wordpress.com (this is NOT the same as AllKpop)? Krloop provides LINKS TO THE SOURCES and is UNBIASED.
It's very different from the Popseoul/AllKpop/Shenyuepop crap.
Use that original source, then. There is no need to provide an intermediary link when the direct article is linked. Oh, and please sign your comments. SKS2K6 (talk) 17:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)