Talk:Bicycling terminology

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[edit] autobus

Is it not the case that the autobus exists to take advantage of a loophole in racing rules? I understand it that if enough riders are in the bus (some percentage of total), even if the entire bus finishes outside the limit they're not eliminated. This allows for a relatively relaxed ride for those not "racing" on that particular stage.

I recall that there were certain riders who had a propensity for numbers and would take responsibility for organising the bus and doing the necessary math (number of riders in the group and/or the estimated time limit) to ensure eliminations were avoided.

I cannot quote specific rules or provide sources, unfortunately; this is just something I picked up many years ago. If someone has a UCI rulebook it should be easy to confirm or deny.

beaverfever, 19 Aug 2006

The race organizers can choose to extend the time limit, when they do that it is typically because the peleton with the favorites has let an unimportant break away get too much time (typically due to tactical disputes about who should lead the chase), rather than the grupetto/autobus. The grupetto will usually have to get in within the time limit, as the favorites won't be there.
The grupetto exists because it is easier to ride in a group, so sticking together has an advantage. And the grupetto will usually have some riders with a good sense of how fast they need to ride to stay within the time limit, so the rest can just follow their pace. --Per Abrahamsen 10:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criterium

I don't think that "prime" is short for "premium." I believe the term comes from French, where it means "incentive," "bonus," etc.

"prime" on wordreference.com

However, I don't have a cycling-specific source to back up this belief.

Cthe 18:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monkey Butt

Sorry; I thought it was vandalism or a joke. Thanks for your cycling contributions.

BitQuirky 19:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Not sure about monkey butt. References on the net seem almost entirely to do with the product 'anti-monkeybutt powder', or scatological. Removed.

[edit] List is almost exclusively racing oriented

Does anyone agree with me that this list is almost exclusively bicycle racing, and perhaps a separate 'cycling' glossary should be started?

Track terms need adding

Mountain bike terms need adding

Technical terms need adding

Bicycle transport/commuting terms need adding

Question of US-English (e.g. bicycling is not the search term in world-wide English) needs addressing.

Centrepull 21:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Racing orientation: as long as each entry clearly states its applicability to racing, touring, and/or utilitarian cycling, I see no immediate need for separate lists. Such a need may arise if one list becomes too long. — Teratornis 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Perhaps someone could design nice templates to insert in each entry to mark it as applying to racing, recreational/touring, and/or utilitarian cycling. Each template might have a small caption in a distinct color, possibly with an icon, and a link to a Wikipedia article (or perhaps someday, a portal) introducing the major forms of cycling. — Teratornis 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
  • The conflict of US English vs. World English should be easy to resolve by making a redirect page from Cycling terminology to Bicycling terminology, or vice versa. — Teratornis 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
  • More terms certainly are needed, so please add the ones you know. (I just added feed zone, food stop, and SAG station.) Is there a suitable template for marking stub entries that need more editing? — Teratornis 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SAG Wagon

The entry for SAG Wagon mentioned acronym where it is possibly a backronym. I added a parenthetical remark to that effect, and I hyperlinked both *nym terms to their Wikipedia articles. Also, I moved the remarks that were specifically about food stops and SAG stations to new entries. — Teratornis 19:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Wiktionary?

This is not a single dictionary entry. This is a list of bicycling terms, and is consistent with countless other Wikipedia articles of this type (do a search on "terminology"). --Serge 01:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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