Talk:Bicycle Thieves

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Contents 1 Requested move 2 The name 3 Burton? 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Ladri3.jpg

[edit] Requested move

• proposal The Bicycle Thieves → Bicycle Thieves. The Bicycle Thieves is plain wrong. Bicycle Thieves is the more correct translation of the Italian Ladri di biciclette. Mandel 14:50, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

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• Support. Even in America, where the film is generally known as The Bicycle Thief, the more accurate Bicycle Thieves seems to be gaining ground. --Kevin Myers 14:32, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Ladri di Biciclette translates to thiefs of bicycles.

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This entry title cannot be called The Bicycle Thief. The film was released in the UK as Bicycle Thieves; that's the correct translation of the original Italian title. The singular tense is ludicrous since there are more than 1 thief in the film. It's a major distortion of De Sica's intentions. Mandel 12:38, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)

I also heard it called "Thieves" too. But according to the IMDb, it was originally released in the US under the singular title. I have moved it to the plural because these days it is the one you hear. Pcb21| Pete 22:25, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

according to IMDb it was Bicycle Thieves in the UK and The Bicycle Thief in the US. I don't think it is The Bicycle Thieves anywhere. So I think it should be moved to one or the other. I suspect that more English Speakers know it as The Bicycle Thief than Bicycle Thieves, but it doesn't really matter where it ends up as long as it doesn't stay here! Since Bicycle Thieves is a better translation, I'll go along with that. --Samuel Wantman 20:57, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User:SamuelWantman messed things up with this and it's not a simple case of moving it back because of a copy/paste move. I'll leave it in the WP:RM holding pen so that the article histories can be merged when the block compression error is no longer causing us problems. violet/riga (t) 17:27, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I never moved anything to "The Bicycle Thieves". I did move the article to "The Bicycle Theif". I will take discredit for the copy/paste thing. I was rather new to wikipedia at the time and didn't know what I was doing! Sorry. -- Samuel Wantman 20:20, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not to worry - I've come up with a temporary solution. violet/riga (t) 20:46, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The name

In light of the controversy over the name (here and elsewhere), I've added a section for it. - AKeen 21:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burton?

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• Director Tim Burton has stated that his film Pee Wee's Big Adventure (1985) is loosely based on Bicycle Thieves.^{[citation needed]}

It's either true or it isn't.

Comparing the plot summaries of both films will swiftly reveal that even if Burton did say that, he was joking. Cop 633 00:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the plots aren't all that different. Both are about men whose bicycles are stolen and their efforts to get them back. I haven't seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure in years, so at least that's how I remember the plot. --YellowTapedR 04:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ladri3.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)