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[edit] Switzerland

[[Category:History of Switzerland]] is dubious; just because the Helvetii wound up giving their name to the Latin name of the modern Switzerland doesn't make this Swiss history. Bibracte is a couple hundred kilometers from modern Switzerland, too, in the heart of France. Maybe the original +cat person has their reasons, though, so I haven't touched it. — Bill 10:52, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, I have my reasons. The Helvetii settled in what is today the western part of Switzerland. The Battle at Bibracte was an important event in the history of the people living on the territory now know as Switzerland, even if it happened outside the boundaries of that modern-day state. But so did the Battle of Marignano, which had profound effects on the history of Switzerland in 1515. Lupo 21:18, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have to say that The Oppidum the Bibracte is absolutely not in Switzerland. It is in France, 5 km from St. Leger s/s Beuvray and 20 km from Autun. Have a look at this page: Oppidum. P.S. I know for sure since I spend quite some summers in that region of Burgundy!. Golf

[edit] Disputed text re:pagan Christ

I also have to say that the piece of text in the link section is not that good at all. The site housed at the max 10.000 people and was indeed a centre of power and culture for the intire region. Cesar himself sad that he never encountered a more civilized centre of people in that part of the world. But to state that it was infect destroyed by a mob 300 years after it’s abandonment and subsequent decay it just a bit to much nonsense for my taste. There was infect a Christian Monastery with a brotherhood of monks on the same site after the abandonment by the Gaul’s that did have some troubles with the locals and was party burned down. But guy’s lets put some fact checking into this article! Next time I’m there I’ll see about getting some extra info from the Museum (That’s the one on site…). There should be some good info to get from there and if I have some time I’ll take some photo’s too… Golf

I have deleted this text which,while referenced,references a book which is patent nonsense and conflicts with known historical fact. its here in case anyone wants to pick over it.

The following text should be checked, wikified, and incorporated into the above article.
Bibracte was an important locus of pre-Christian Gaelic civilisation. According to Harper, Tom; The Pagan Christ; Thomas Allen Publishers, Toronto. 2004,p.61 (see also Alvin Boyd Kuhn,The Lost Light: An Interpretation of Ancient Scriptures, 1940.Reprint, Kessinger Publishing,1997), Bibracte had a Druid College of forty thousand students which offered studies in Phil., astrology, architecture, law, medicine, grammar, literature, and esoteric religion. It was destroyed in 389 by a mob of Christians. This type of destruction--of books, cities, monasteries, and temples was also carried out in Arles (seat of learning for two thousand years, sacked by Christians in 270,and in Alesia. It is this destruction, like the colossal destruction of the Library of Alexandria by Christian monks in the fifth century, that makes some history vague and nebulous, and in the cases of Bibracte, Arles, and Alesia, it leaves us confounded in this day by Stonehenge.

Golf, the museum is great, you should make sure not to miss it. --Nantonos 10:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Plans

I plan to greatly improve this article - I have been there twice, have a bunch of books on the subject, may upload some photos. However, I probably won't be able to do that before the weekend of the 15th Oct 2005. --Nantonos 11:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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