User talk:Bhuck
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[edit] JW pages
Bhuck, welcome to the JW pages. I appreciate your contributions and look forward to working with you on improving the articles! --DannyMuse 16:34, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- Actually the sect/cult thing has raised its ugly head here also a few times. If you're interested here are links to archived dialogue and how it played out. Whenever it comes up again I refer the editors to these links:
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- Talk:Jehovah's Witnesses/archive 13: Purported cult
- Talk:Jehovah's Witnesses/archive 9 - see 5.2.1 Cults and Sects
- For your convenience I'll repeat some of the more salient points here now:
- Interestingly, the website, Religious Movements: Jehovah's Witnesses (http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/Jwitness.html), had this to say about cults:
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- Cult or Sect: Negative sentiments are typically implied when the concepts "cult" and "sect" are employed in popular discourse. Since the Religious Movements Homepage seeks to promote religious tolerance and appreciation of the positive benefits of pluralism and religious diversity in human cultures, we encourage the use of alternative concepts that do not carry implicit negative stereotypes. For a more detailed discussion of both scholarly and popular usage of the concepts "cult" and "sect," please visit our Conceptualizing "Cult" and "Sect" page, where you will find additional links to related issues. (Emphasis added)
- Also, Timothy Miller, of the University of Kansas, states in his essay, Religious Movements in the United States: An Informal Introduction:
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- “Cults” are usually defined by anticultists by lists of attributes they possess: they have charismatic leaders, they want your money, they demand high levels of involvement, they expect members to conform to certain behavioral patterns, and so forth. But such attributes are perfectly capable of belonging to groups that few would consider “cultic”—Catholic religious orders, for example, or many evangelical Protestant churches. If the term does not enable us to distinguish between a pathological group and a legitimate one, then it has no real value. It is the religious equivalent of “nigger”— it conveys disdain and prejudice without having any valuable content.
- Thus academic students of nonmainstream religions generally quit using “cult” as a descriptive term. (Emphasis added) I hope this helps! --DannyMuse 16:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Reichstag building
I have never said the Bundestag is again assembling in the Reichstag building. I said "the parliament" is again assembling in the Reichstag building, which is indeed correct. To an English reader, the parliament of Germany is the parliament of Germany and that's it. The parliament changed its name in 1949, but noone are trying to hide that fact. And don't tell me Germany is a different state than Germany. If you do so, I will cite the German Federal Constitutional Court: "Die BRD ist nicht 'Rechtsnachfolger' des Deutschen Reiches, sondern als Staat identisch mit dem Staat 'Deutsches Reich". 83.109.186.140 11:28, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] anglicanism
you said that "The link to "province" does not provide a link to the concept of a national church, but instead to political subdivisions of a nation (such as the provinces of Italy)." so fix it don't just put that on the talk page if you have the time to write that on the talk page you have the time to get the right link and fix it
Bobburito 03:34, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC) (please respond on my talk page)
[edit] Rolling Hills vs. Flat Illinois article
Thanks for changing that, had I noticed someone had characterized central Illinois as rolling, I would have changed it myself. That area is flatter than a table top. It's amazing really. Agriculture 22:27, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The JW-related redirection you introduced
Please take a look at the following thread:
and see if you want to make a comment. Thanks. 66.167.139.86 23:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Townships
You wrote "They exist in some form in all states west of the original 13 colonies, except Kentucky and Tennessee." to replace Texas and Louisiana. I have no opinion on whether you introduced an error or eliminated one - I can't find verification for EITHER assertion. Would you care to point out the source for your information? Thanks! ClairSamoht 04:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- I knew it was true for Kentucky and Tennessee, and thought it was false for Texas and Louisiana. After checking Public_Land_Survey_System, I see that it is indeed false for Louisiana, and also for Hawaii, Vermont, and West Virginia (though West Virginia was part of the Thirteen Original Colonies before becoming a state later). (See also this.) Texas uses a hybrid system--my personal theory is that northwest Texas (just look at all those squares on a map showing the counties there!) is using a system so close to the township system as to be basically identical, but obviously the southeast parts are on Spanish cadastral surveys, but this is true for some small parts of other states as well (including Illinois and California). In conclusion, I think my version is truer than the previous version, but could perhaps still use some improvement.--Bhuck 08:56, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Washtenaw County Commission Districts
I see your note asking about the locations of the 11 county commission districts in Washtenaw County.
I have added Government sections, briefly describing the structure and function of county government, and listing countywide officials, to the pages for the five Michigan counties which are larger than Washtenaw: Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, Kent, and Genesee.
I have not done this for Washtenaw because such a list would include my own name.
In the larger counties, I did not list the individual county commissioners by name, partly because I thought those lists would be unlikely to be maintained up to date, and partly because I wasn't sure that individual commissioners were "encyclopedic".
However, someone else has added a nice party-color-coded list of Washtenaw County commissioners, and I don't argue with that addition. All I have done with that was to correct the spelling of some names. Maps of the districts are available here, and there are probably some less elaborate versions if preferable.
As to the question about the UM campus and county commission districts, there is some ugly history to that. (The rest of this comment is a political rant which can be ignored for Wikipedia purposes.)
In the version of the districts which was in force from 1992 to 2000, there was one district centered on the UM campus which was predominantly UM students. The commissioner elected from that district was Jeff Irwin, who was I think 22 when he was elected.
In 2001, the districts were redrawn using 2000 census figures. The number of districts was reduced from 15 to 11, and the downtown/student district was deliberately broken up. Jeff Irwin continues to serve as county commissioner, but from a vastly altered district.
In the meantime, the Michigan legislature, which is controlled by Republicans hostile to the concept of students voting in college towns, has tweaked the election law in all kinds of nasty ways to make it more difficult for students to vote. In particular, the absentee ballot campaigns which used to be done to get students to vote in August primary elections when they were out of town are all but illegal now.
Given that Ann Arbor is overwhelmingly Democratic, the primary is the critical election. With students effectively excluded from participating, the nomination in a predominantly UM student district (if one still existed, say in the form of Jeff Irwin's old county commission seat) would probably be controlled by a relative handful of nonstudent homeowners at the fringes of the district.
I'm not happy about this situation. Kestenbaum 13:13, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for writing me and making that information so much easier to find. From 1987 to 1990, I lived in Ann Arbor (and stayed over the summer) and was often an election judge (or inspector--I forget the terminology in use at the time), usually working the East Quad precinct--I remember a rainy June school board election for which we had maybe 7 people show up all day. Did you know Herb Katz, who was the guy responsible for city elections back then, if I remember the name?
Jeff Irwin's current district is still much more student-friendly than the city council wards in effect at that time, which I think were a result of memories of the Liberty Party's victories around 1970. I have since moved to Germany and become a German citizen (an easier way to get proportional representation than to wait for legislative relief in the US) and member of the Green Party here. Is there anywhere to find out more about what changes were made to make it more difficult to vote?
Unfortunately, I'm not good with graphics, so I can't figure out how to include a district map in the wikipedia article. For the German Wikipedia, though, I've started articles on Wayne and Oakland Counties, and plan to work my way down to Washtenaw eventually.
I had a look at your campaign site, which seemed quite convincing (in 2004, I was voting in Champaign County, Illinois, though, and hadn't read your campaign website)--certainly wish you continued success in the future! I've also enjoyed using the political graveyard website occasionally when it has surfaced in my Google searches (often induced by Wikipedia).
Brian Huck (de:Benutzer:Bhuck (particularly earlier revisions of that page--the current one is a reflection of winter discontent))
[edit] ECUSA Dioceses
Hi! I think I've only actually started four diocesan articles: Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire and Texas. I've lived in all but New Hampshire. Of course, I could start stubs for each one and see how quickly someone from that diocese fills them in. Sort of a "The Episcopal Diocese of X is the the diocese of ECUSA in the eastern half of the State of X. The see city is Y." kind of thing. I'm afraid that would mostly just create 80 or so new Anglicanism stubs.
BTW, good work on the Springfield and Illinois articles. Any chance of Chicago and Quincy following?Rockhopper10r 16:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the article link. I would add that the Diocese of Texas is not nearly as conservative on the whole as the Downstate Illinois diocese or our two neighbours to the north (Dallas and Fort Worth). We did just elect a woman bishop, after all. It's more middle-of-the-road, with more liberal parishes and more conservative ones, with most being somewhere in between.Rockhopper10r 21:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I've started filling in the blanks as it were. I've started articles for the remaining New England dioceses, all of which are very, very basic. We'll just see if anyone adds to them.Rockhopper10r 17:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for expanding the Connecticut article. I do appreciate it. I hope at some point, that there will be articles about every diocese. As to the other point. I also have trouble with the concept of "traditional" equalling "conservative" and apologise if it sounded like I was equating the two. I quite agree that traditional worship can have a liberal theology. The parish of which I am a member currently uses what would be considered a very traditional liturgical style for its primary service (we do Rite I Morning Prayer ante-communion once a month, for example) but is very progressive overall theologically. The Episcopal parish in the city where my parents (who are RC) live is a charismatic parish whose service strays quite a bit from the Prayer Book, but theologically, that parish is very conservative.Rockhopper10r 18:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Since "conservative" is defined as someone who favors traditional values (and conserves them), it shouldn't be necessary to apologize, but in this animal-farm world where all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others, it's sometimes hard to be understood. BTW, nice work, folks. ClairSamoht 18:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Regarding Nevada, after the election of the new Presiding Bishop I though it appropriate for there to be something to which references to the Diocese of Nevada could link. I'm sure someone who knows more about it can fill in the details. At this rate, we may have an article for every domestic diocese within a few months. Rockhopper10r 15:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Gruss
Hi Brian, thank you for your involvement with the gay agenda article too. I know it has come a long way. I did some reviewing and notice that you carried out the translation as well. Good job! I will certainly keep an eye on it, because I am always a bit skeptical that some social conservatives here will try to put a subtle spin on articles like this.
I am only active on German Wikipedia with interwiki, typo fixes, etc. I really wish I could do more, but I am not quite comfortable with translation from English-German (although I do a great deal from German-English). I lived in Germany for a couple years, so I am better at speaking and reading than writing. I would always love to go back and see my friends there. GilliamJF 22:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hallo, nein ich habe deine Benutzerbeiträge auf :de noch nicht gesehen. Was für eine andere Klima meinst du? Dass bei euch man locker bleibt? GilliamJF 20:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Das habe ich auch bemerkt. Auf wp:de, gibt es weniger Artikel aber was da steht ist länger. Mit vielen Grüssen, GilliamJF 01:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Hallo, Bhuck mein Freund, ist alles in Ordnung? Alles, was gibt's hier bei Wikipedia ist nicht so ernst gemeint. Wo bist du genau? GilliamJF 09:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Also, ich war schon einmal in Mainz in 1998. Zur Zeit gibt's viel los bei homosexual agenda, aber der Artikel ist ganz kurz. Bist du damit zufrieden? Gruss, GilliamJF 15:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Choice and sexual orientation
Just want to say that I'm glad we were able to work together productively on Choice and sexual orientation to create a compromise we could both live with, especially since we started off on the wrong foot. Al 19:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks to your edits in other articles we've both edited, I was fairly sure we would be able to find a consensus.--Bhuck 10:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Special rights
Just a quick note on the Libertarian debate on the Special rights talk page. I think the debate there has ended, so I didn’t wish to rekindle it, but did want to let you know, why was so adamant. To me it seems that over the past decade or so, there has been a concerted effort by social conservatives to group themselves with libertarians, in their speech but not their views. I think, but cannot prove, that this has been done to legitimize social conservative positions. The more libertarian they seem the less opposed to equal rights they seem (i.e. less bigoted). Additionally by clocking themselves with libertarianism they give themselves non-religious philosophical support for their views and a powerful tie to the philosophy of many of the framers of the constitution. When they agree with libertarians little can be done to stop them, although I would argue that their agreement is coincidental as they did not reach their conclusion in the same way. However when they disagree, I have always tried to point out social conservatives mis-appropriation of libertarian values. Anyway enough of that. Franklin Moore 22:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that's more or less what I was trying to say here ("appropriated that term for their particular anti-gay agenda"). I think you're exactly right.--Bhuck 23:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Iraq War
I am trying to guage the reasons why people are opposed to linking WOT to Iraq War. Can you please lay out your arguement against it, so I can see whre you stand and hopefully we can all work together to reach a middle ground perhaps. Thanks. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 11:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I think it would be possible to link the two articles, but this should be done in the article text, for example by saying "The Bush Administration considers the Iraq War to be part of the War on Terrorism, though this is highly contested both in the US and abroad." I think there is already a sentence to that effect in one of the two articles--I would have nothing against a wikilink in that context. To flat out say that it is a part of the War on Terrorism would be incorrect--there are many people, including influential US senators, who believe that there is either no link between the two, or that the ill feeling caused by the Iraq War has exacerbated the terrorist problem for the US.--Bhuck 12:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- So you feel since there is a debate in the Senate, that the name should not be included? And that since some other countries dispute it, it should not be either? Addressing the first issue, if the Senate passed a resolution linking the two, would you then reverse your opinion or would both points need to be addressed? Also if I was able to provide links to quotes be officials reffering to the Iraq War as part of the WOT, would that be good enough alone? --zero faults |sockpuppets| 12:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I did not mention other countries specifically, but since we're on the subject, how would you feel about an article on the war in Chechnya being labelled "Part of the War on Terrorism"? Should Sandinista incursions into Costa Rica or Honduras in the 1980s to combat Contra activities there be labelled that way?
- The problem is that "War on Terrorism" is not so well-defined that it is easy to agree on what is part of it and what is not. If the Senate passed a resolution linking the two, I would still not agree that the label should be applied, unless either a) the resolution was unanimous, and not just a majority view, since minority views should also be respected, or b) that were part of an official Declaration of War on Iraq, and referred to another official Declaration of War which had previously been addressed to Terrorism.
- And if officials refer to the Iraq War as part of the War on Terrorism, then that would not convince me that the label should be applied, but again, would certainly merit being mentioned in the article text. Remember that officials are appointed by the president to represent the president's views, which may not necessarily be the truth.--Bhuck 12:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- In regards to the Senate issue, you are basically stating that everyone in the US would have to agree the war is part of the WOT, however that goes against the rules of the Senate itself. Using that basis one can say ther eis no war since the standard is everyone has to agree to it. I ask you lower the threshhold there as it seems you are purposely asknig for something that will knowingly never be achieved. I doubt there has been more then 10 unanimous votes ever in Cognress since the foundation of the republican / democrat system.
- In regards to the naming, what is the WOT? "is a campaign by the United States, NATO, and other allies with the stated goal of ending international terrorism by stopping those groups identified as terrorist groups, and ending state sponsorship of terrorism." Its defined in the first sentence of the article in which it is linked. I hope that covers your worry of the Sandinistas, since it cannot retroactively label things. As fo the declaration of war, th Supreme Court already ruled that the Authorization to use force was a declaration of war, and that same document lists Iraq as part of the WOT.
- Finally officials speak for their country, like it or not that is why they are elected. So I am not sure how to look at this, to reach a middleground you are basically asking for the entire world population to acknowledge this link, and the Congress to do something they cannot, cause the Supreme Court ruled its already been done, and to do it in a way that has possibly never been done, unanimously. It sounds to me like you are not willing to budge at all after reviewing that. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 14:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Does the Authorization to use force, to which you are referring, specifically mention the goal of ending terrorism? If so, how direct is that mention? Do the other countries participating in the Iraq War (with the exception of Iraq, of course) also state that this was their goal? Even if it were part of the US reason for going to war, maybe it was not part of Poland's or Kazakhstan's reasoning. For example, in the Wars of Italian Unification, Savoy had different reasons for going to war with Austria than did France--France was motivated by the possibility of annexing Nice, for example.
- While a unanimous vote would be quite unequivocal, I think if you got a vote of 91-5 or something like that, that would also be a pretty clear indication of a wide consensus, as opposed to simply a majority-party view, which is what I think the case here really is.
- Do you think the Iraq War is part of the WOT in the same way that the Battle of Gettysburg is a part of the Civil War? Or in the same way as the Pacific Conflict between Japan and the US was part of World War II?
- Also, the article on WOT is not always as definitive as in the sentence you quote--for example there is an image of a TIME magazine cover there, with the headline "War on Terrorism" in reference to the hijacking of a Lufthansa plane in the 1970s.
- I think you are overstating my position, if you feel I am requiring the entire world population to be unanimous.--Bhuck 22:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- So you feel since there is a debate in the Senate, that the name should not be included? And that since some other countries dispute it, it should not be either? Addressing the first issue, if the Senate passed a resolution linking the two, would you then reverse your opinion or would both points need to be addressed? Also if I was able to provide links to quotes be officials reffering to the Iraq War as part of the WOT, would that be good enough alone? --zero faults |sockpuppets| 12:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think it would be possible to link the two articles, but this should be done in the article text, for example by saying "The Bush Administration considers the Iraq War to be part of the War on Terrorism, though this is highly contested both in the US and abroad." I think there is already a sentence to that effect in one of the two articles--I would have nothing against a wikilink in that context. To flat out say that it is a part of the War on Terrorism would be incorrect--there are many people, including influential US senators, who believe that there is either no link between the two, or that the ill feeling caused by the Iraq War has exacerbated the terrorist problem for the US.--Bhuck 12:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes the authorization does in fact mention terrorism. It highlightes general terrorist groups, and the link they though to al-Qaeda, it mentions it over 9 times, and I believe 3 times in relation to them getting WMDs. As for the other nations, those are the nations in the UN that supported Bush for one of two reasons, they felt Saddam had WMDs or they felt Saddam was a state supporter of terrorism. He did in fact have anti-Iranian and anti-Isreali groups with headquaters in Iraq. UK actually did attack because of terrorism and WMDs with a large worry over what terrorists could do with those WMDs. I am not sur eif you are familiar with how Congress works, but things are not passed by simply majority, it has to be above 3/4 I believe, one vote was 76-23 I think, and the other was an even larger gap. In the UK the votes was 400+ to 120 or so. Neither country passes law by simply majority. I believe it is the same way you would qualify the Pacific War to be equal to WW2. Some would argue that Japan had nothing to do with WW2 in Europe, but it was an extension in a different theatre under the same larger conflict. THe time magazine you are talking about is also in the section showing the previous "WOT" during I believe Nixons reign, its showing historical context of the name, the cover is from that period. It is not saying that incident is part of this WOT. Sorry if I am overstating your position, you asked for a unanimous vote earlier or implied one would be needed, something that is obvious would never happen. My apologies. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 13:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Perhaps you could provide a link to the text of the authorization measure that was passed by Congress? Then we would just need to determine whether the other participating countries also shared this motivation or not. Also, I would be interested to know why you feel this information needs to appear in an infobox in that format instead of just being mentioned in the text.--Bhuck 14:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jacobitism
With regard to your point about Jacobitism on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/History and geography, the sentence which you found problematic was added by an anon at 16:32 on 2 March 2006 and not improved until 22:46, 9 July 2006, then POV problems were further reduced at 00:21 on 10 July 2006: I've now commented out the sentences concerned as they deal out of sequence with a matter covered later in the Hanoverians section. It will be a great help if you can raise any other concerns on the article talk page so that they can be given prompt attention. ...dave souza, talk 14:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Welcoming Congregation" restructuring
Please see my comment on reorganization of the "Welcoming Congregation" topic (replying there). Thanks! --Haruo 06:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] CANA
My knowledge of CANA is next to nil - I know that the ACiC is the body active in Canada - in my diocese in particular. Fishhead64 06:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Is ACiC different from ACoC (Anglican Church of Canada)?--Bhuck 00:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yes - see Anglican Coalition in Canada. Fishhead64 08:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Anglican Parishes of the Central Interior
Thanks for doing the translation of this article. The grouping of parishes known as the Anglican Parishes of the Central Interior exist in the former territory of the Diocese of Cariboo. They are under the jurisdiction of a suffragan to the Metropolitan of the Ecclesiastical Province of British Columbia and the Yukon. The suffragan is the Right Revd Gordon Light. So I think that qualifies as the "historic episcopate, locally adapted," pace the Lambeth Quadrilateral. Fishhead64 08:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, ok. List of dioceses of the Anglican Church of Canada helps explain that, too. I will say 30 dioceses then.--Bhuck 00:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hallo
Hallo Bhuck, wir hatten schon mal vor Jahren Kontakt und dann hatte ich dich auch mal angerufen. Es ging um den Artikel "Yachad". Zur Zeit läuft ein heftiger Zensurversuch auf der Diskussionsseite des Artikels Mancala. Nicht nur ich bin davon betroffen, sondern auch der Benutzer:Peng. Dahinter steckt eine Männerseilschaft (Wiki-Deutsch: "Vertrauensnetz") aus den Benutzern Benutzer:Achates (admin), Benutzer:GNU1721, Benutzer:Scherben, Benutzer:my_name (ein erst 17-jähriger Amin), Benutzer:Tönjes (Adminkandidat) und Benutzer:Felix_Stember. Letzterer versucht mich mit absurden Drohungen unter Druck zu setzen und vandalierte gestern über 5 Stunden lang in der Wikinfo (darunter auf der Diskussionsseite von Fred Bauder, dem Gründer von Wikinfo). Schau doch auch mal auf folgender Seite nach. 89.55.80.60 14:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: Ich bin gerade von Benutzer:Scherben zum fünften Mal innerhalb der letzen 30 Stunden gesperrt worden, diesmal , um zu verhindern, dass ich dir schreiben kann. Deshalb der Text jetzt hier.
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