Talk:Bhili language

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This article was nominated for deletion on April 6, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

I had nominated this for VfD, but it was then completely rewritten. I changed my own vote. I'd encourage anyone knowledgable to further expand this. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:18, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of "Bhili" using devanagari

I used Devanagari to represent the native name, which appears to be Bhili, among others. User:Angr changed it, resulting in a bizarre spelling on my screen, which can only be represented in transliteration as "-i bhila". Yet when I tried to note the difference here on the talk page, Angr's respelling showed up correctly, while mine shows up as what can only be transliterated as "bhali -i". Is this a problem w/ my browser? or with the unicode template? Input? Tomer ^TALK 06:10, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

OK... now, MORE problems! भिलि shows up right on my screen, transliterated |bhili|, but if I add the unicode template, it shows up भिलि, transliterated |bhali -i|. Without the unicode template, Angr's spelling shows up as िलिभ which is nothing but a bunch of boxes on my screen, but with the unicode template, what Angr had shows up as िलिभ, which transliterates as |libhi|!!!??? In any case, what I had originally, is the only thing that shows up correctly in my browser (IE6, using Arial as default font)... so I changed the spelling back. Tomer ^TALK 06:21, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

I'm using Netscape 7.2, and what it looks like on my screen (before my first change, and again now) is "bhali -i", which is why I changed it. Maybe we should avoid Devanagari altogether? Are you even sure that both i's are short, and that it isn't bhilī or bhīlī? --Angr/_comhrá 06:50, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nope. In fact, in light of what I read on the referenced rosetta page, it is bhīlī. I have changed the spelling accordingly. I'm not content to throw away the "native spelling" completely, since everything I've read leads me to conclude that there is nothing even remotely approaching a standard for this language, but that there are definite attempts underway to compile such a standard, as well as a literary corpus therefor. From my reviews of Indic languages in similar circumstances, it is common practice to rely on sanskritic norms, rather than upon those of surrounding literary languages (probably for political and cultural reasons). Were it otherwise, I would have written the "native name" using Gujarati characters, since Gujarati seems to play the most important external rôle in influencing the norms of Bhili. Until further evidence is produced, however, in light of the fact that it is a descendant of Sanskrit, I feel perfectly justified in my choice of alphabet for its native-language representation. I hope this isn't viewed as too much an infringement on the "independent research" clause. Another problem with throwing away the "native spelling" is what drew me to put forth a proposal originally therefor: the fact that with nothing, the template inserts some stupid tag like { { { IPA } } } or whatnot, minus the spaces, of course. I'll test other browsers tomorrow or sunday if I run out of time before shabat...but my feeling is it's a template problem rather than a browser problem. The unicode template is a project very much in progress... :-/ -t Tomer ^TALK 10:15, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources but no info

I've moved the reference section from the article, since it's obvious that none of them have actually been used to add content to the article. All of the current info can be found just by checking the Ethnologue entry. Please put them back when you've actually extracted some sort of info out of them.

References

• Jain, N. 1962. Bhili-Hindi kosh. Indore: Hira-Bhaiya
• Jain, N. 1971. Bhili ka bhashashastriya adhyayan. Indore: Indore University
• Kulkarni, S.B. 1976. Bhili of Dangs. Poona: Deccan College
• Thompson, Rev. Chas. S. 1895. Rudiments of the Bhili Language. Ahmedabad: United Printing Press

Peter ^Isotalo 23:12, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

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