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Magnifico!

Your city is deep within my heart. Are you one of St Thomas? LoveMonkey 16:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

My answer copied from his talk page: I respect St Thomas, and have also contributed to the page Saint Thomas Mount. I could not understand your words "your city is deep within my heart." --Bhadani 13:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Deep in my heart because of Thomas. LoveMonkey 16:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I would like to try to add a mention of your article, to the icon article add the part about Thomas' icon of the mother of God. Since the icon is very old and the tradition behind it dates to 60ad. Thanks Again. Since an attempt has already been rebuffed by Ghirlandajo. I was hoping you might help???? LoveMonkey 11:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I will try to do something, if possible. --Bhadani 13:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Fabulous! :) LoveMonkey 18:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Sikhism article

Hi Bhadani! Rama's Arrow and I (and many other users!, especially Rajatjghai), have been working to make the Sikhism article up to a standard that is worthy of being a FA. Please take a look and make your comments on the talk page before we try and go for FA status. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure Sukh, I shall do it in a day or two - I promise. --Bhadani 13:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The smile

Thanks for the smile. Jayjg (talk) 17:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Madam Cama

Interested in the portrait of Madam Cama, I would like to reproduce it for a forthcoming publication. Any suggestion? Regards.--BobClive 12:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My response copied from his talk page: I shall be sending you an e-mail, as also scanned pages of an article on Madam Cama. However, please give me some time - say the coming Sunday. --Bhadani 13:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
More copied from his page: Great to learn that you know six languages of India. Fantastic! Which are they? --Bhadani 13:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to send you the answer by e-mail ?--BobClive 16:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My response copied from his talk page: Yes Bob, you are most welcome to send me your reply through wiki e-mail by following the link on the right. I shall send you my reply and comments, as also the scanned pages about Madam Cama from a book by Sunday next. Regards. --Bhadani 16:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Bhadani, As a Wiki-novice, I confess my ignorance about the access to wiki e-mail addresses. SOS. Thanks.--BobClive 08:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Question

You to me: Hello. Apart from being a Wikipedia administrator, I am also a university student of politology. I would like to ask you, cause you are Indian, what do you think about current anti-reservation debate. On which side do you stand? Thank you. :) - Darwinek 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Me to you: It is nice to hear from you after so so so long. I shall surely open up my mind on the matter - however, not in a public place, as the issue is really sensitive. In case, you send me an e-mail, I shall surely give an exhaustive reply. --Bhadani 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I am write now e-mailing you 11 pages of scanned materials from the magazine India Today. Kindly, inform me their "safe-arrival" in your mailbox on my user page. Thanks. Best. --Bhadani 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Mailed just a minute before. --Bhadani 2 June 2006 (UTC)
It just arrived. Thank you very much. Have a nice weekend. :) - Darwinek 14:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the smile. It really brightened my day!--digital_me(t/c) 15:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

smile

Thanks for the smile. Did anything in particular prompt it? Just curious. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:52, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his talk page: Nothing in particular prompted my friendly smile - but, there is a point. Apart from building the Project, we are also part of the most active virtual community oof the digital world. So, I just wanted to say you hello in this way. Helloooo friend. --Bhadani 09:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the smile. I'll pass it on. :) —Viriditas | Talk 21:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

A haiku of thanks

Thanks for your support
In my RfA, which passed!
Wise I'll try to be.

-- Natalya 04:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

You've been truffled by Charlie

Charlie has given you some of his famous Solid chocolate truffles! Chocolate truffles taste good, help moods, promote WikiLove and hopefully make your day better. Hope you find the truffles to be tasty, and make sure you enjoy them with a nice tall glass of milk (they're rich)! Wow... 29,000 edits, That's amazing! If wikipedia payed by the edit, you would have a new car or some other close to 30,000$ items by now. But as they don't I feel I should help show our appreciation by giving you some truffles! If you feel like making them for yourself, I have posted the recipe here (For now I'm keeping the rights to the recipe (as I developed it) in a sort of non-commercial, E-mailware type licence). Many Regards and hope you have a good day! --Charlie( t | e ) 05:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

My response copied from his talk page: And, the ones you sent are so tasty. Thank you! BTW, I am a lazy person, I will again come to you for Solid chocolate truffles. No, no - I will try to make some for me and you. --Bhadani 09:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the wikilove...those always make me happy :) --Osbus 13:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It was my pleasure. --Bhadani 13:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC) (my further response, copied from his talk page)

Help

Hello Bhadaniji, I saw you welcoming an IP address User talk:210.211.141.45 asking him to open an account on WP. Can you please tell me what is the template that you used for it? I would like to use it for a few other IP addresses. Thanks a lot - Lost 07:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the quick reply.. Lost 07:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks once again for the clarification... Might as well ask you another question... What is the link to the page that displays very new articles? Lost 09:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

My response: Special:Newpages - this shall "land" you on the newpages, and you may find several "new" things there. Please be careful - oh, no, no, please be bold, I was just joking Image:Tongue.png. --Bhadani 09:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

My very first award!!!! Thank you so much Bhadaniji!!! Lost 13:22, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his talk page: Re:your response to above - yes, it is the beginning. Please continue with the Project on a long-term basis, and contribute positively. You shall have many awards. All the best! --Bhadani 13:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

image:wikiThanks.png Thank you Bhadani for the wonderful gift this Sunday afternoon. Nice to hear from you. :) Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on 30,000 edits. Almost double of mine. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

My response copied from his talk page: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia! Image:Tongue.png --Bhadani 09:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Request for another view

When you're wiki-rested, would you take a look at Ram Janmabhoomi, I have been asked to step into this article twice now. It is outside my scope of knowledge and would like another valued pair of eyes (that might at least know something of the subject) before I go into it 'feet first'. There is a smallish section on my talk page about the most recent to-do with it. Hope your break is going well, I know you find it very hard to stay away :) --Alf melmac 09:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

My response: I am almost wiki-rested! I thank you for giving me an opportunity to have a look in the above article. I would try to do that and let you know of my views. Once I expanded a little Krishnajanmabhoomi. However, I find that all such articles are loaded with a lot of sentiments, and the assignments are really challenging. I am not sure of myself with such pages, but I shall surely try to do something, if I am able to do at all! Regards. --Bhadani 10:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Smile

Thanks for the smile! I did what you asked. Saravask 17:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Request

hey,I have very interest to write article on the Darbhanga Goramansingh and Jhanjharpur.I would like to request you that you regularly visit this page and guide me as better as possible. santosh_singh_linux 06:44, June 5 2006

My response, copied from his page: Hello, nice meeting you. I belong to Bihar - though now Ranchi is a part of Jharkhand. I have seen most of the areas of Bihar, one day I shall give you a list. Yes, Please wrtie about all the places of Bihar - I will look into them from time to time. In case, you have picture, please upload them too. All the best! --Bhadani 14:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Censorship at SV's talk page

Hi. Since you said you agree with my comment that POV's should not be silenced at SV's talk page, I want to bring this to your attention. I responded to your comment below, but it was removed as it involved my theory which could be construed as negative in nature. I disagree but fine. So, I placed another message, below, and even this one is being removed. I feel this is blatant and unjust censorship and ask you to help in restoring it, since you did say you agreed with me about not silencing others voices on the talk page:

I stated my view, responding, to your comment below about when I think for sure SV will be back in full action but it was suppressed and reverted. I asked why but there was no answer, just another revert. This underscores the message of this section in regards to silencing any voices, opinions that state a view with commentary that can be interpreted as negative. I don't have any agenda as im not anti or pro SV, but I do have a view on the incident. Its sad that not all views are tolerated, and does make this talk page of limited value as a result. This comment will probably be removed as well per the pattern. If you support my view, Bhandani, I hope you will restore this if and when its removed. Giovanni33 17:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC) [1]Giovanni33 17:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his talk page:Hello. This has reference to your message, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bhadani#Censorship_at_SV.27s_talk_page. However, I would not like to comment further to precipate the issue. Regards. Cheers! --Bhadani 14:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks !

Thank you very much for encouraging and instant reply.I've begun hindi contribution too.I hope you will be with me.santosh_singh_linux 06:44, June 5 2006

My reply:Hello, I find that you have received messages regarding images uploaded by you. I think they have been taken by you. If so, in the image page/s plese do as follows:

Licencing

{{GFDL-self}}

Please remove tl before you write the licencing information on the image page. Please do this urgently, as it is necessary to save the images from deletion. Ashirwad! --Bhadani 14:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Returning the Smile

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Thanks!!!

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Hi

Its good to have you back in action, sir! --Nearly Headless Nick 17:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

My response copied from his page: Thank you for the welcome message on me "being back in action" - we all shall continue to be in action to make the Wikipedia the Best. --Bhadani 15:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for the birthday message! I really appreciate it! (BTW, what did you mean when you said you missed the bus? Do you have me mixed up with someone else, or was it a joke?) Steveo2 16:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

"Missed the bus" - it was a mix-up. Sorry! --Bhadani 15:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

AN/I

I think you should know about this. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah! Guruji as already responded. I don't think you should worry about it. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me. The wikipedians are intelligent people, and they are able to understand the truth. --Bhadani 15:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Namaste, Bhadani-ji

Thanks for the smile. It did make me feel a bit better. I wonder: where did you come across my username? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

My response: Hello. I read several user pages and talk apges - and I saw you somewhere, I do not exactly rememebr, and wanted to exchange friendly smiles with you. --Bhadani 15:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks a lot, then! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Anwar's behaviour

Please see [2] and guide me what to do? It's becoming hard now to handle Anwar's selective attacks on Indian wikipedians (actually Hindu Indian wikipedians) and his tricks. This is not the first time he senselessly reverted Hinduism related additions by me without any logical explanation. See another example of how he tried to trap me. [3] - Holy Ganga talk 20:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

My response

Wikipedia:Editor review/Shreshth91

Dearest Bhadaniji, please comment on my ER. I eagerly await your comments.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91(review me!) 07:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his page: Hello, I am sure you are fine and exams are over. I shall do the same withing a week. All the best! --Bhadani 14:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

In honour of your fantastic work

Move to > [4]

My response, copied form his page
Grapes
Grapes

Hello, I brought some for you. I really thank you for the barnstar. I accept it with humbleness and dedicate the same to “We The Wikipedians’’. Thank you. --Bhadani 14:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your compliments

Thanks Shri Bhadani Ji, for your attention to me. I hope you will cooperate always in the same way. God Bless you. User:Dbbajpai1945@sify.com

Thank You

Thank you for supporting my Request for Adminship! I appreciate it and will do my best to maintain the faith you have shown in me! – Ben W Bell talk 07:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: WikiBirthday

Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 13:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Omar Abdullah

Bhadaniji, user:70.78.86.89 keeps adding his pov to the above page. I have left messages on his talk page as well as Omar Abdullah's talk page and reverted his edits twice. He explained his rationale to which I replied. Now I dont want to approach 3RR, so what is best way out... Pls guide. -- Lost 16:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I have left a message on that page: please co-operate. --Bhadani 16:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Should I leave his edits in the meanwhile or revert? -- Lost 16:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

ME on his talk page: In case, you are sure of your point, please revert. --Bhadani 16:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Till now, as you must have guessed, I was interested only because we share the same school, and thus just reverting to whatever others may have written, but now that I am involved, I guess, I will rewrite the entire article. -- Lost 16:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
You are most welcome. However, I could not understand the point about "sharing the same school". Did We share the same school, or you and Omar Abdullah share the same school. --Bhadani 16:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Me and Omar.. the school which you started as a stub and gave me an award for.. -- Lost 16:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Great! I had gussed that you are from Lawrence School, Sanawar, but I am not from Lovedale. --Bhadani 17:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Thats sad, coz if you were, we would have started a lawrence project together!! ;-)--Lost 17:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

There are yahoo groups of Lovedale students - you may find some of them may be surely wikipedians. You may thus build up a project. --Bhadani 17:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, that's how i came here... Somebody in the Sanawar alumni group pointed out that the Sanawar article needed a lot of work, so I thought of contributing my bit... And here I am, hooked to Wikipedia!!! -- Lost 17:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, and you did a great job! I am sure that you shall continue with the same spirit. (copied from his talk page) --Bhadani 17:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Right back at you!

 NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

And yep, I'll archive it tomorrow (keeps filling up like a sewer all the time!)

Also, kindly check below:

POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#Poll! NikoSilver  (T) @ (C) 18:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


Sorry about making the comment without a user name

I'm sorry about that, I thought I was signed in, my user name is Johnstevens5

Regards

Wikipedia:Hinduism-related_topics_notice_board

plenty for you to do.--Dangerous-Boy 03:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Your comments

Bhadaniji,

Aapne hame wikipedia se nikalne ki baat kari. Hum yeh samajhna chayenge ki karan kya hai? Rathore, jo humara gotra hai, us page impumozhi dwara likha tha ki jaichand ek rathore hain. Yeh sarasar galat hai. Jaichand Ghadval rajput hain joki rathoron ke sath bihayate hain. Alag alag shakhayen hain. Humne history me dekha jo page sahi tha use palat diya. Tab yeh impumozhi hame vandal ka naam de diya. Ab aap bataiye galti kiski hai?

Phir hamne thoda aur research kiya rajput page ke talk main aur paya ki impumozhi rajputon ke baare mein katayi nahin jaanta hai. Aap niminlikhit padhiyga. Kya aise shaksh ko rajputon ke baare me likhna chaiye aur rajputon ko vandal karrar dena chaiye?

rajputon ke talk page se

  • Incident 1: Impumozhi accuses rajputs of fabricating history on Hada page

Read this page for a little entertainment -- in particular, the last three sentences, setting out the historical repurcussions of that hilarious (and probably fictitious) incident. Is this fit for an encyclopedia? Leave aside veracity, just the choice of words? Yet nobody dare change one comma or fullstop in that page: it is "owned" by that presiding deity of obduracy, the learned protagonist of every page with a remote "rajput" connection.
  • Impumozhi's lack of knowledge exposed











His claim about Hada's character being funny and un-encyclopaedic is actually taken from James Tod's Annals and Antiquities page 384 and 385 Vol-II:

On the death of the queen Joda Bae, Akbar commanded a court mourning; and that all might testify a participation in their master's affliction, an ordinance was issued that all the Rajput chiefs, as well as the Moslem leaders, should shave the moustache and the beard. To secure compliance, the royal barbers had the execution of the mandate. But when they came to quarters of the Hadas, in order to remove these tokens of manhood, they were repulsed with buffets and contumely. Then enemies of Rao Bhoj Hada aggravated the crime of this resistance and insinuated to the royal ear that the outrage upon the barbers was accompanied with expressions insulting to memory of the departed princess, who it will be remembered was a rajputani of Marwar. Akbar, forgetting his vassal's gallant services, commanded that Rao Bhoj should be pinioned and forcibly deprived of his moustache. He might as well have commanded the operation on a tiger. The Hadas flew to there arms, the camp was thrown into tumult, and would have soon presented a wide scene of blood-shed, had not the emperor, seasonably repenting of his folly repaired to the Boondi quarters in person. He expressed his admiration (he might have said his fear) of Hada valour, alighted from his elephant to expostulate with the Rao...
If James Tod thinks this incident is worthy of being mentioned in his book, Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, what is wrong in this incident being mentioned on Wikipedia?
  • Incident 2. Deleted the name of famous rajput lady, Maharani Gayatri Devi, from rajputani page, saying she is not a rajput.





His response: [5].



Impumozhi, on rajputani page deleted the name of Maharani Gayatri Devi [6]. Then he was asked why he did so: [7].



His response was countered on his talk page: [8] and till date he has not responded. The reason he did not respond is because his lack of knowledge on the topic was thoroughly exposed.
  • Incident 3: Impumozhi tries to get the page of a famous rajput king deleted, but is thwarted.



In another incident he put a tag of db-nonsense on the article Hammir Dev Chauhan : [9]. He was asked on the talk page of this article on why he put the CSD tag: [10]. No reasons given till date. Another user, Dvyost, had to remove this db-nonsense tag: [11]. Here again Impumozhi had no idea about the subject matter but just because a rajput had created this article he put the db-nonsense tag.
  • Incident 4: Mozhi accuses rajputs of writing poor history

Certainly, these people genuinely believe what they write, even on the Hada page -- they would not know otherwise, their views being informed mainly by an execrable set of caste-glorificatory pamphlets. My views on the famous and oft-cited list of 65 reference-books is available here (please scroll to the red-lettered section towards the end of the "changes comparison").

I have previously expressed the same views, for instance here, never to any effect, and I despair of ever obtaining recourse if nothing avails me on this forum. I think it is essential that, rather than confine their final decisions to the Rajput and associated pages, the arbcom should take a broader view of the contributions-record of the protagonists, and encourage the permanent departure of those who simply are not equipped to contribute to an encyclopedia. The sad alternative is to have less belligerent, more bookish people gradually depart WP in despair and disgust. Regards, ImpuMozhi 08:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


  • Mozhi's accusations are baseless

In the reference section of the current rajput page there are chapters, page numbers, publication houses and ISBNs for the books used to create the rajput page. Please click here to see them: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&oldid=43113774#References. These books are written by eminent historians who have Phd's from universities. To claim there books are useless, without reading a single one of them is a grave insult to these learned people.

Conclusion: Impumozhi reads a few internet sites and thinks he is an expert on the topic. Reality is contrary. Does not even know that one of the most prominent rajput ladies of modern times, Maharani Gayatri Devi is a rajput. This guy is not trustworthy.


How can WP tolerate consistent spread of misinformation?

So Mozhi, Shekhawats are Gohil rajput? [12]

Oh and Tomar's are descendants of Pandavs and are chandravanshi too! [13]

and you should be allowed to edit rajput related articles. Why?

ant: rajputon ke talk page se

Namaskar, Partha

I could not reply as you had not properly signed. It is too much to expect that I will see history of my page and locate you to reply. Anyway, thanks for your message. --Bhadani 10:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Smile

Thanks for smiling me. What can I do for you? - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 13:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, thanks from me! Go raibh maith agat!--Irishpunktom\talk 14:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks -

for your kind message. Greetings, --Janke | Talk 16:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A message to User:Timwi

Nice meeting you. I would like to know the reason for reverting the follwing edit:

I believe that you innocently reverted the edits without understanding the contents. Please let me know your version. Thanks. --Bhadani 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A reply on my talk page shall be appreciated. Such reverts amounts to vandalizing my talk page. However, I am taking this as an innocent action. --Bhadani 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Some never say "I regret"

Some would never say "I regret" - so I am myself restoriung the edits removed by another editor under the impression that the following message to me was a spam!!!

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  6. Hindi wikipedia strongly recommends the users to write articles in everyday common Hindi in the खड़ीबोली dialect (Hindustani or Hindi-Urdu, i.e., बोलचाल वाली हिन्दी, which may include many loanwords from Persian and Arabic). The use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is in general neither required nor recommended. E.g., use: वजह instead of कारण, ख़ास instead of विशेष, वगैरह instead of इत्यादि, लेकिन instead of परन्तु etc. However, for technical and specialized vocabulary, the use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is recommended and usually mandatory. Thus: upper House of Parliament—संसद का उच्च सदन, but not Urdu—मजिलिस का ऐवान-ए-बाला ; Foreign Minister—विदेशमन्त्री, but not Urdu—वज़ीर-ए-ख़ारिजा ; knowledge/science—ज्ञान/विज्ञान, but not इल्म. Use spoken Hindi's ये and वो instead of यह and वह / वे. Do not use the title of respect जी after names, it is unencyclopedic. Thus: कृष्ण / श्री कृष्ण but not कृष्ण जी. Use the आप form and its corresponding 3rd person verbal conjugation for writing about respectable persons. Thus: श्री वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मे थे. But not: वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मा था. But do not use the pronoun "आप" itself in-text in biographies.
  7. English should be used sparingly, only when required; i.e., if the corresponding शुद्ध हिन्दी word is too "difficult and not generally encountered", or if it is a proper name of non-Indian person/place/terminology/title, or if the user is highly unsure of the proper translation. It is recommended (but not required) for English-to-Hindi translation while writing articles, the Shabdkosh online dictionary should be used. For each English word, that alternative should be used which is generally encountered in everyday spoken Hindi, and also fits well into the context. Use of intelligent guesses for newly encountered words is also allowed, and so are translations encountered in Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries, Hollywood films, Hindi-translated books, etc. e.g., दमपिशाच for en:Dementor (used in dubbed HP films).
  8. If used, it is recommended to use the English words within the articles using the English (Roman) alphabets rather than devanagari (or better, the devanagari transliteration should be used in the sentence, followed by the English word in Roman alphabet in parentheses). Such words should be italicized and not put in quotation marks. Preferably, there should be an in-page interwiki link (like :en:) on the word to the English wikipedia. If the word comes as an integral part of a sentence, so as not to break the continuity, the en: prefix should be hidden by writing the word again after the pipe sign (piped link). Thus, recommended: हैरी पॉटर ने ''[[:en:Pensieve|Pensieve]]'' के अन्दर ''[[:en:Little Hangleton|Little Hangleton]]'' गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ ''[[:en:Merope Gaunt|Merope Gaunt]]'' को देखा. ''[[:en:Resplendent Quetzal|Resplendent Quetzal]]'' पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० ''[[:en:Pablo de la Llave|Pablo de la Llave]]'' ने काफ़ी शोध किया था. Whence,
    • हैरी पॉटर ने Pensieve के अन्दर Little Hangleton गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ Merope Gaunt को देखा
    • Resplendent Quetzal पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० Pablo de la Llave ने काफ़ी शोध किया था
  9. Always start the first 1 or 2 lines of the article giving its definition (from any standard dictionary/other wiki) or suitable introduction. Thus, recommended: ललिता सहस्रनामन हिन्दू धर्मसुधारक आदि शंकराचार्य द्वारा रचित देवी दुर्गा को समर्पित एक पूजा-मन्त्र है, जिसे कई हिन्दू रोज़ श्रद्धा से जपते हैं । But not: ललिता सहस्रनामन मन्त्र जपने के लिये लड्डू-पेड़ा, ताम्बुल, सिन्दूर, लाल चुनरी के साथ नित्य इस मन्त्र का पाठ करें, तो जल्द ही गड़ा हुआ ख़जाना मिलेगा । Recommended: वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी (en:Aeronautical engineering) विमानों (en:Aircrafts) की अभिकल्पना, निर्माण और प्रचालन करने का विज्ञान, कला और कार्य है । (translated from Eng. Webster's New World Dictionary). But not: आजकल वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी के लिये देशभर में कई कॉलेज खुल गये हैं, जिनमें अग्रणी स्थान यूटोपिया स्थित लालू-यादव टेक्लिनक कॉलेज का है ।
  10. For names of countries, cities, places, languages, people, books, films, technical vocabulary, mythology, etc, start the article like this:
    • 1. The name in bold ('''अपोलो''')
    • 2. starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
    • 3. The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized phonological transcription within / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
    • 4. the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।) For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.
  11. Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article ([[en:Appolo]])). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.
  12. Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
  13. Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
  14. The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
  15. For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
  16. Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
  17. When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
  18. Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.
For more information/suggestions/criticisms, please contact any one of the administrators of Hindi wiki here, preferably en:User:Magicalsaumy. This page can also be found here.

Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 02:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply, copied from his page:

I thank you for your message available in this section of my talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bhadani#A_message_to_User:Timwi

Apako sandesh ke liye sadhiwaad. Main awashya Hindi wikipedia mein yogadaan karunga. Subhekachha ke sath, apaka hee - --Bhadani 10:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Bhadani, nice to hear from you :-) - Cribananda 17:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Folksong has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

let us smile

Bornhj has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! --james(lets talk) 23:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :). Good to see that template didn't get deleted! --james(lets talk) 23:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Nice meeting you. I would like to know the reason for reverting the follwing edit:

I believe that you innocently reverted the edits without understanding the contents. Please let me know your version. Thanks. --Bhadani 17:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A reply on my talk page shall be appreciated. Such reverts amounts to vandalizing my talk page. However, I am taking this as an innocent action. --Bhadani 17:06, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I considered it spam. If you don't, you can very easily just re-revert me. — Timwi 18:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, in my opinion they were requests to build the project in another language, and not spam as it is understood in the usual sense. As you appear to be very busy person to reply here inspite of a proper link, I am copying the interaction on my talk page for future reference. Bye.. byeee. --Bhadani 11:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


Admin coaching

Hi Bhadani, a while ago you signed up to to Esperanza admin coaching program. As it was a little way back (and slightly unusually, you are already an admin but want to be coached rather than be the coach), I just wanted to check you still wanted to be assigned some coaches? Please let me know on my talk page. Thanks, Petros471 21:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I was doing some assigning of coaches last night, but left yours as I hadn't yet got a reply to the above. Maybe an option would be for you to just ask one of the coaches for advice on a specific situation if you need it. In particular I didn't assign User:Kim Bruning yet, as Kim is one of the most experienced admins listed on that page, and therefore might be the best person to help someone who is already an admin. Please let me know what you think, so I can update the coaching list accordingly (I'm trying to get it moving again). Petros471 09:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: I thank you very much for your message of 11th June 2006. I regret that I could not reply in time - today being a saturday, I am trying to clear the backlog. I believe that life is a learning process, and so although I may be a sysop, there may be still be a lot to learn and share our experiences with persons more experienced than us. I shall keep your advice in mind, and in case I require any assistance I shall contact you/ User:Kim Bruning. Right now, perhaps I do not reqire any formal coaching as such. Thanks and regards. --Bhadani 10:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, that's fine. You are totally correct that just because we've become admins it doesn't mean there isn't still more to learn. However, it is probably best that you just contact one of us for advice in specific situations as you said. Cheers, Petros471 10:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks...for changing Image:Darbhanga.jpg to PD status,but this image is not present in the Darbhanga page.Image:maharajadbg.jpgis on the Darbhanga page which alredy has its PD status. Byeee.........Santosh_singh_linux

R K Narayan

Heya.. i jus edited R K Narayan, lotz of info was missin there including his death, his work and lotz of other stuff, i donot have his picture,well i was wondering wheather Pictures by AP Associated Press are copy righted, also wud appreciate if you cud arrange a R K Narayans pic and post it there. i also want to know its it okie to paste a excerpt piece of his work?? jus to show how his style of writing... btw i have seen u around .. keep the good work .. peace~ --Sartaj beary 01:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

MY REPLY, copied from his page: Please refer to your message of 12th June 2006, in connection with above. I regret the delay in replying. I thank you for your suggestions and interest. I am trying to find a picture free of copyright problems. If possiblle, I shall add one. All the best. Please remain in touch. --Bhadani 10:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:the first year

I read your essay, Sabotage of Wikipedia, and visited the links. I was shocked to discover that an external article about Christian Abuse of Wikipidia is on Wikipedia's spam blacklist, so the only way I can direct you to it is to present the URL like this (remove the **):

www.double**blue.info

I'm disheartened. -- 81.174.213.240 22:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply. copied from that IP's page: {{welcome:anon}} I also recieved a message from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bhadani&diff=prev&oldid=58281448 --Bhadani 10:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello, Bhadani/Archive09, and thank you for the supportive vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 84/1/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months, but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions on how I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! - Kukini 16:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
My reply copied from his talk page: I congratualte you after about a week of you having been elevated to the sysop. I would have come earlier, but I just forgot! I am an old man of 1000 years. I wish you all the best! --Bhadani 09:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

It happened by mistake.

Ya,I know. Actually,I didn't have any intention to delete your page.It got deleted by mistake.I was feelng guilty for a moment and tried to restore deleted content but I couldn't do well.I couldn,t contact you too after submiting last message due to net disconnection.Sorry !! byeee.......Santosh 19:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh no no no my dear Santoshjee, never feel guilty. It is fine - nothing gets lost in wikipedia. Now, cheer up, and continue the excellent work you are doing. --Bhadani 14:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

sabotage of Wikipedia

Thanks for smiling at me on my talk page. I was slow to understand that as a form of communication, so it took me a bit to come look at your personpage, and find the "sabotage of Wikipedia" article.

In essence, we have both uncovered the same problem, and i would be interested in hearing about any (apparently low stress) ideas you might have for dealing with this problem. I have been considering writing suggested policy; i only recently realized that anybody can do that.

Prometheuspan 19:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply to him, copied from his page: My response: I regret the delay in responding. Today being a Saturday, I am trying to catch on with pending replies. I thank you for your message. I am sure that the wiki-community will evolve stricter norms to protect our contents. In case, you desire to write any policy papaer, I encourage you to please do so. Thanks and regards. --Bhadani 09:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

our meeting

Will be going to Gujarat tomorrow. Shall contact you immediately on return. Probably in a weeks time.

Our meeting

Will be going to Gujarat tomorrow. Shall contact you immediately on return. Probably in a weeks time. I lost chance to give you surprise.

Tiny request

Hello Bhadaniji, it was great to see register on the Hindi Wikipedia. Anyway, for your Hinduism stubs that you are wonderfully creating currently, can you include the IAST pronunciation in brakets alongside. I can then also add teh Sankskrit/Hindi/Devanagari to the pages (unfortunately you don't have indic scripts on your PC).

Also in case you feel that you can't contribute to Hindi and other Indian Wikipedias because of the script problem I have an idea. At hi:User:Bhadani/Sandbox you can make stubs or longer articles in romanised Hindi. I and others will then convert it to devanagari. If you agree with my proposal, can you use a system so that the t's, d's, n's and sh's are shown differently. Maybe T for ट and t for त (I hope you can see!) etc. Hindi is the third most spoken language in the world but is 91st in Wikipedia size rank. It is strange how India became independant over fiftiy years ago from Britain but the Indian Wikipedians ar not yet independant from the English Wikipedia. Jai Hind! जय हिन्द! GizzaChat © 10:16, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply, copied from his talk page: Hello. I really felt nice to hear from you after a long time. I would surely do as suggested. My Hindi is as good or as bad my English. I feel that I can comfortably contribute to Hindi wikipedia, to begin with, in Roman script. I also thank you for creating the page for me. All the best! --Bhadani 14:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Those on whom you smile...

User:Zyxoas, on whom you recently smiled, has found himself blocked for shifting IP reasons (I trust him when he says this - we've worked together a lot). Could you help? Cheers, JackyR | Talk 18:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Forgot to say, You Smiled at Me! Thank you! JackyR | Talk 18:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I thank you for your recent message, and regret the delay in responding. I think that the matter was resolved before I could do anything. Please remain in touch. (my response, copied from his talk page). --Bhadani 10:44, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

A very special thanks from Samir

 Dear Bhadaniji, yes I made the century! Thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship, and for your support ever since I joined the project. I really appreciate it. You are my role model as an administrator (imitation truly is the sincerest form of flattery!), and you are such an exceptional person to have around here. It's been my utter pleasure to have worked with you so far. Take care -- Samir धर्म 06:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Novels WikiProject Newsletter June 2006

Here is a new initiative for our project. You are recieving this as you have at some point signed up as a "member" of the project. Have a look at the newsletter via the link and see what you think. The June 2006 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his page: Hi. I thank you for informing about the Novels WikiProject Newsletter June 2006. We shall surely inter-act more. Due to various reasons, I could not contribute to WP Novels - but, I shall surely start contributing actively soon. Regards. --Bhadani 14:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello Bhadaniji, Thanks so much for your support on my recent RFA. Hope to have your guidance through this. Congrats on reaching 30,000 edits! - Ganeshk (talk) 05:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar of National Merit - India

Barnstar of National Merit moved

Congratulations Bhadaniji!!! You had to work very hard to get it :)) -- Lost 17:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No doubt about it - I worked really hard to get this - Evan really recognized my internal feelings. I am thankful to him. --Bhadani 17:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I am learning lots already, but the way you change your edit count on your page, I dont think I will manage to catch on for years!!! -- Lost 18:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply, copied from his talk page: Oh, it is so nice of you, Evan. Have some cherries: Image:Cherries.jpg. They taste really fine. I was just joking while vandalizing your page. But, now that you have awarded me the barnstar, I accept the same with a sense of humbleness. I shall shortly keep it safely in the "Open Vault". Thank you for your gesture. Thanks and all the best! In your real life, as also in your virtual life as a wikipedian. --Bhadani 17:33, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for your long time service, Mr Bhadani, it's an honour to have you here as a mentor, an editor and a good friend. Hope you'll be a Bureaucrat someday!-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 和 CCD Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 04:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
My response copied from his talk page: I really feel nice talking to you. We all are here to build the best encyclopedia in the world - all other things are only incidental. I wish you all the best! --Bhadani 09:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Examinations

Oh, you have exams and you are here. I saw you when you edited the page Levan Ramishvili and I enetered into an edit-conflict with you. You were faster to bold the page name. All the best for the examinations! --Bhadani 17:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I only have 2 more to go, so I can afford to have a little wikitime! Thanks for the message. Benjaminstewart05 09:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

PLZ intervene on Bhumihar article

Dear Admin
your intervention on Bhumihar page is desirable.Holywarrior 10:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, nice talking to you. I received your message about above page. What type of intervention you propose? (My response, copied from his talk page) --Bhadani 10:54, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for smile

As I already wrote on my page, it was a bit difficult to post smileys at other users' talk pages when blocked erroneously. But you get one now:

Añoranza has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Añoranza 22:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the smile. I wish you a peaceful and constructive wikilife. (my reply copied from his page). --Bhadani 14:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
If you paid close attention to the focus of this user's edits you might not be so welcoming to token praise. Haizum 19:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

R K Narayan

hey..thanks for the reply... i did find existing image of R K Narayan in wikipedia, already linked it to the article with writer infobox..appriciate your reply...sure will be in touch...drop a line anytime.. --Sartaj beary 17:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Copied from hi talk page: You really did a splendid job. --Bhadani 14:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you :) --Sartaj beary 17:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi question

Hi, I hope you don't mind my snooping but in a talk page message you left were the words "sadhiwaad" and "subhekachha". I was intruiged because I could make out the rest of the message, but upon searching for those words in my dictionaries I could not find them. I gather they are both of Sanskritic construction, but my understanding of Sanskrit roots is too weak to be of much use. Would you mind explaining their meaning? Thanks - Taxman Talk 18:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: Hello. I would surely explain the words. Subhekccha is made up of two words: Subha and Ekchha. Subha generally means good or fine, and Ekchha indicated ones desire – subhekaccha denonte “All the Best””. Sadhuvad is an expression used to bless some efforts. So It is a sort of a word of encouragement, which an elder person gives to a younger ones. BTW, I liked the snooping. All the best! --Bhadani 14:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Life Insurance Corporation of India

I've added a company infobox to the article. But couldn't workout the revenues, income, etc. from their website. Can someone do it? Is there some Wikiproject to standardise Indian companies? --Victor 19:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: I really appreciate your efforts in adding the infobox to the above page. A tidy and nice work. All the best! --Bhadani 14:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Images on Bhimbetka

Hi Bhadani, I have uploaded and put two more images in Bhimbetka article. you may like to see.Seems you have become too busy after you became administrator. Thanks burdak 04:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply copied from his talk page: I thank you for the images added to the above page. They enhance the quality of the page. I am sure that you shall continue to add more photographs and images to other pages also. Please remain in touch. --Bhadani 11:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Bhadani for the Barnstar award for my Images on Bhimbetka. I have completed article on Amarkantak with photos. You may like to see it. burdak 15:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
My reply to him ,copied from his talk page: This is a small present from me to you. I am sure that you shall continue to add photographs to more pages. Congratulations! --Bhadani 11:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I also saw your photographs in the page Amarkantak, Splendid job! --Bhadani 15:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Bhumihar Take admin action

Plz see [14] and take appropriate action.Holywarrior 16:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

These ppl have put on their userpage some templates which many new users can think of them being admin or respectable editors and even members of anti-vandal which actually none of them are.They have all been warned by different admins even which you can see in the history of talk page of these users- which they are promptly deleting.What action should be taken against these imposters.They have put up templates which they are not authorised to.Holywarrior 16:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.Holywarrior 17:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I have blocked one for 31 hours/ removed the unauthorized templates/ warned that placing such templates shall attract action. --Bhadani 17:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Apsaras/Tennin

Hi, I was hoping you would pipe in at Talk:Tennin or Talk:Apsara explaining how you know that these are two different things. My books on Japanese art history say they are the same, and I was hoping someone would come forth with sources that agreed or disagreed. Do you have such sources? Thanks, — BrianSmithson 03:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply to be posted in a moment on his page: I have several sources including Dictionary of Hindu Lore and Legend (ISBN 0500510881) by Anna Dhallapiccola and Hindu Goddesses: Vision of the Divine Feminine in the Hindu Religious Traditions (ISBN 8120803795) by David Kinsley telling about Apasaras and they have never equated them with any other legendary or mythical entity. The book on the Japanese Art may have mentioned both being the same – that would not make them the same as the concept of Apsaras are older than the Buddhism, and they find references in the Rig Veda. Hindu scriptures and Hindu mythology tell about scores of Apasaras and they live in the court of Indra. Some of the Apasaras include Urvasi, Menaka, and Rambha. As regards references, there are several which do not connect them with any other type of fairies or angels. I would request you to please note that wikipedia has still to become the ultimate sources of sum total of human knowledge, and hence contents continue to be fine-tuned. Similarly, I saw yesterday a merge tag to merge Durga with Durga Puja – I removed the same as any such merger is like merging Christ with Christianity or vice versa. I think that you understand the issues involved. I feel your book on art may have equated Tennin with Apsara to give more weight to the concept of Tennin or to clarify the point to the uninitiated – though I can not comment on that book as I have not read the same. There are several books which claim so many things and all such claims should be weighed on the totality of the available sources. I am not sure if Tennin is an exact Japanese word for Apasara – only under this situation, both shall be the same. Regards. --Bhadani 09:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I would suggest that you should not merge Tennin with Apsara as after reading contents of Tennin, I am sure that both are different "things". --Bhadani 09:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Smile!

Tangotango has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Thank you for the smile, Bhadani :) Happy editing, Tangotango 13:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Bhadaniji. Though I've been at wikipedia for quite sometime now, I think we've never quite met. So I thought I'd drop you a little "hello". :) You were one of the editors I first noticed. Your contributions are overwhelming. Really a wonderful job you do here. Cheers, and regards-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply from his talk page: Hi. I thank you for your compliments. I am sure that we all are doing fine job here. --Bhadani 13:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Fakr-e-Hind

Dear Bhadhani, For your unrelenting contributions to Wikipedia on topics pertaining to India , I award you the title"Fakr-e- Hind", The Pride of India. sumal 14:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

MY response copied from his page: My reply: Hello. I do not know if I am worthy of this big title or not! I thank you for your kind words. Regards and all the best. --Bhadani 14:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Denise Paolucci article deletion. Why?

Why do you keep deleting the Denise Paolucci article? I've checked the speedy deletion link and I can find no justification for continuing to delete this article out of hand. It is not an advertisement or SPAM and it directly references another existing (and very sizable) article on Wikipedia. And I don't see what the length of an article has to do with anything. If there was no content, there would be nothing for you to delete.

Culled from the deletion logs: 15:08, 19 June 2006 Bhadani deleted "Denise Paolucci" (content was: '{{db-empty}}Denise Paolucci is an employee of the LiveJournal website notable for being the unwitting subject of a series of crude animations w...')

I would request you to establish the notability of the person. Please read carefully: WP:BIO. Please also learn to sign the messages for easy identification. --Bhadani 15:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Reading the article would have explained why the person is notable. The person is the subject of a well-known internet spoof-site. I provided links in the article back to the shock site article in which she is originally mentioned. Could I make the article longer? Probably, but I'm not going to do it if you're just going to instantly delete it. Incidentally, I could be mistaken but I wasn't aware that admins were supposed to act on their own speedy deletion tags. Greg 15:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Copy of my message from User talk:Fang Aili - Hi. I feel nice talking to you. Thanks for coming to my page and fixing the deletion tl before I could do the same. You are really faster than me. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikimania!

Hey Bhadani, any interest in coming to Wikimania this year? +sj + 15:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, nice talking to you. Yes, in case, I am called - I will surely try to attend. It shall be great! --Bhadani 16:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I will decide in a week and sign. Thanks. --Bhadani 16:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

tl-ing

No problem! I just happened to be going through the speedies at the time. :) --Fang Aili talk 15:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

University of Sagar

Hi, This was a fairly dubious nomination - there is no question but that the subject is notable. The only reason it was deleted was that the text was noticed to be copyvio. I edited it to fix that, but it was pointed out that it would remain in the page history and hence the page should be deleted and re-created. I plan to recreate it when I get some time. 15:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/University of Sagar

MY reply copied from his page: Hello, nice meeting you. You are most welcome to work on the page at your convenience. I would always seek your assistance, if I start working on the page. --Bhadani 15:57, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Image deletion

Hi. You deleted Image:9news3010606.jpg for having no copyright information while it was still in use on National Nine News. This left an image red link in an article. Please check what pages use images in future, and remove the [[Image:]] tags from the article. - Mark 05:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Mostly I do that but sometimes I miss it. Thanks for pointing out. --Bhadani 13:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thanks for being vigilant and helping weed out untagged images. :) - Mark 14:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Bud Whiteye

Your name appeared in my talk history. I don't know why it is there. Some have petitioned to delete my article, but anything I click on surrounding your name/talk shows nothing that is related to anything I have done or the article I submitted. My Q is, why are names attached to my article "Aamjiwnaang: A Canadaian Community Under Siege" but when visited show nothing related to me. Not a reference, not my article, nor my defenses of my article. They are just names of strangers showing up in my talk history.Bud Whiteye 15:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Bud Whiteye

Copied from his page: Hello, nice talking to you. I got your message, but could not uderstand it without the link. Please give me the link to the page you are talking about. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucratting

That's cool. Thanks for reminding me :) I think I have to go do something bureaucratly today. — Ilyanep (Talk) 15:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
So you are the Boss now! --Bhadani 15:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikilove

Thanks Bhadani for the smiley thingie. -- Szvest 17:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Wiki me up™

Hi from Bud W

I don't know how to create a link, except clicking on Bud Whiteye. I think that takes you to "my contributions" and others on the samw line. My article is in there. Bud Whiteye 17:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Bud Whiteye

Bud Whiteye Again2

Bhadani: Here is my short note. Below is the subject you asked me to link you to. I tried linking, and I started missing parts and a variety of other instruction pages popped up. I wrote in your page that I didn't know how to create a link. Forgive me please for making this too awkward. But, I'm anxious for somebody to talk to (or everybody during the debate process -- you will see below.) I answered and replied to many concerns but they seem to be at other articles. Is that how it is done? Make your recommend, and leave it, the project; to Whom??? There is no OR problem with the article. I answered the NPOV,and POV, and I know I need to tend to nuetrality. (Many think the title is meant to be angry and aggressive toward someone, it is not, but I'd be glad to change it. I have examined other encylopedias in additon to Wiki and see titles are not dramatic, simple as in (perhaps for this case: Unknown Life-threatening Pollution Among the First Nations In Canada) But if I can't reach any since their first concerns were made known, how do I know more than that? Are they not responsible for some fact check; somehow? A quick Google search may help some, perhaps they don't rely on search engines (Google.) These are Q's and concerns I have as a Wiki member. Of most concern with me - I believe strongly in the whole Wiki ((concept)) Project, as a result: If we were all editors who would do the submitting. (I am an editor by profession, Google would bear that out as well.) Just because we have the luxury of a million stories a day, that is not a reason to be hasty (Wiki will be here until somebody blows us up) or to cut and burn at will. We, collectively can offer the results of a 'best effort,' when a parent wants to broaden his child's base by citing Wikipedia, (simply put that is.) The (my) links would be "Aamjiwnaang: A Canadian Community Under Siege" or "Bud Whiteye" but I don't know how to make these into click-ons for all our benefit. Thanks Bhadani, Your friend and colleague Bud Whiteye Bud Whiteye 22:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps

Perhaps someone User:Claytonsavage shall come here with a complaint that I deleted an image used on his userpage. I would welcome him, and say that - tag the images please suitably to avoid deletion. --Bhadani 14:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

re: Kannagi etc.,

Thanks for your appreciation. Though, I've never really woven much fabric, I used to help my grandmother with starching yarn and other processes.

And more thanks for your offer to take the photograph of the Kannagi statue for Wikipedia. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:your message

ty --Adam1213 Talk + 06:58, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak?

You are still editing!? GizzaChat © 08:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

My response, copied from his page: Hello. Yes, I wanted to take a break - but still I do some edits. I am planning to do something for Hindi wikipedia as suggested by you. I think we should ensure that at least we have 1000 select pages which all wikipedias are expected to have: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_articles_all_languages_should_have

I will discuss the issue further. To begin with I shall translate the ppage names and write them in the Roman script. Thereafter, some of us interested in the project may identify the pages already existing in Hindi wikipedia. Then, I shall try to create as many new stubs of 200 to 250 words as may be possible and write in Hindi but in Roman script. BTW. I want your free and frank opinion about my work relating to stubs on Hinduism and Hindu mythology. --Bhadani 14:03, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Consulting an expert

Perhaps my skill with Google is weak, or perhaps the article creator was being malicious, or perhaps the relevant material is not online; in any case, I cannot find any evidence to support the claims made in the article Dharmendar. You know far more about the Hindu religion than I do; could you offer an opinion on whether the article is true or false?

Thank you. DS 15:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

My response from his page: Hello. We are talking after a long long long gap. And, I am not an expert, but try to contribute based on certain sources. I thank you fro your compliments. I never heard of above deity or god. But, in Hinduism, a saying goes that there are millions of gods! Still, I have not heard of the name. This is a common Indian name, and it means Indra of Dharam and is made up of two Sanskrit words, namely, Dharam and Indra. I do not know notability of the god Dharmendar. Unless the editor who created this stub or some more editors come forward who may have some idea, the stub shall not grow at all. Strangely, the stub has been created by an user having the same name! --Bhadani 15:34, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Hello

Hi! Thanks for the smile! Have a good day, happy editing! --Ali K 15:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my dear Bhadani!

A sweet bar of chocolate for a sweet person!
A sweet bar of chocolate for a sweet person!

My dear Bhadani, I just wanted to drop by and thank you (with my deepest apologies for the belated reply!) for the beautiful smile you gave me some days ago. Although briefly, we have encountered each other before, and every time I stop by your page, I continue to be amazed at the dedication you show to our project. So here you go: have some chocolate to recharge some energies - you deserve it! I hope you're doing fine, and have a beautiful weekend! Warm regards, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 02:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Sharon, a ton of thanks for the chocolates - I know you responded late as you were searching the best stuff for me. Thanks. You have told so many things about me - am I worthy of such praises? We all are here with a single mission - to build and continue to build and to keep the Project up-dated. BTW, the chocolates were sweet, but your words are sweeter: yes, a grain of kindness is all it takes to turn thorns into flowers! Great words indeed. And, you are looking really "academic" in your latest picture. Congrats! --Bhadani 15:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

WikiThanks

Thanks for the smile - cheered me up! Any particular reason why you singled me out, or was it just a random grin? ;) Mammal4 07:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

My response from his page: Nothing in particular. I just saw you wanted to smile. After all we are human beings. --Bhadani 15:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks you for your nice note, I look forward to another year of wiki'ing. Have a nice day! Johann Wolfgang 15:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)


Re: Improvements

Warm and friendly greetings to you Bhadani. I'm pleased that I finally have an excuse to 'introduce' myself on your Talkpage. You recently left a very brief comment at The village pump: "...we should improve our management as regards ensuring the quality of our pages." Since your suggestions are always so thoughful and useful I would be very interested in any ideas you might have along these lines. Perhaps you would consider either starting an essay or expanding on your suggestions at the Pump? I think this is a topic which is very important to the future of WP, especially with regards to the public perception of our work here. I am anxiously looking forward to your positive contributions in this area and I will follow your work with great interest. Doc Tropics 16:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:Management of contents of our pages

Hello Doc, I feel highly pleased to meet you. You are msot welcome. The matter is engaging the attention of several editors of wikipedia. Sometime bacl I had started a page: Better than the Best. I am still working on the issues which we should resolve to ensure that we emerge and continue to become the Best. I shall inter-act more with you. You are msot welcome to offer your suggestions, I shall continue to offer mine - others shall join, and we may surely be able to formulate a system. Regards. (Copy of my reply - from his talk page). --Bhadani 16:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick (and very kind) response. I read your thoughts on Better than the Best. I will need to read it again and think on it much more before I could make a useful contribution, but in general, I agree with you 100%. Just yesterday I made a similar comment that the public perception of our credibility is an issue that needs to be addressed quickly and on an ongoing basis. I look forward to working with you on this important topic and I will respond more fully after I've had a chance to gather my thoughts. Happy editing :) Doc Tropics 16:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi wiki

Thanks for your offer of services. Please do check the respective categories on Hindi wiki before creating stubs. Please do not stop in your contributions. Cygnus_hansa 20:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes. --Bhadani 13:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Article Improvement Drive (WP:AID)

 Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week Epic of Gilgamesh was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help…
Yes, sure. Thanks for reminding. --Bhadani 13:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Bye

I,m going to home,where there is no internet facility. so, I,ll be out of wiki by 15th july.Byeeeee.......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santosh singh linux (talk • contribs) of 26th June 2006

Image:Mango 24.jpg
Mango
Wish you a nice time in your place and mango. --Bhadani 12:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Yummy Bhadaniji... very tasty indeed!!! Thank you very much -- Lost 13:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Mahabharata glossary

Hi Bhadani, please consider to add links in Mahabharata glossary only where they really lead to the desired article; e.g. Arani leads to a Brasilian city, Astra leads to a disambig page etc. Happy editing! --Ioannes Pragensis 10:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I will be careful, and remove the links leading to "wrong destinations." --Bhadani 10:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Since done. --Bhadani 13:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
image:wikiThanks.png Thank you, Bhadani! --Ioannes Pragensis 14:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Nicolau dos Reis Lobato

Saw your work on this page. Thanks for dropping by. Ozdaren 14:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. It was rather small. But you know: Small is Beautiful. Please remain in touch. (copied from his talk page) --Bhadani 14:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey

You are still active. I thought you were away till july. How is chennai. --SkyWalker 22:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

My reply, copied from his talk page: It was nice to see your message. I want to be inactive but fail to do so. Wikipedia is like an addiction. How are you? Chennai is fine as usual! --Bhadani 13:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Nice to see you too :). You are right about wikipedia it is very addictive. Iam ok. Bangalore is very very cold nice place :). --SkyWalker 15:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy wiki-Birthday

Hello friend. I wish you a very happy wiki-birthday. BTW, I learnt of the same from Wikipedia:Esperanza. All the best for the coming year! --Bhadani 08:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the congratulations. I really appreciate it. joturner 04:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Hi, Thanks for the welcome. I see that you are temporarily inactive till July, but you can please let me know once you are back? I would like some help from you on something that i am confused about.

--unni 13:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Editing "Indian Cinematographers"

Hi Bhadani, thanks again. When i tried clicking on the "Email this user" link, there was no email specified. Is this talk page a good way of asking doubts and such?

My first query to you is on a page i created, Indian cinematographers. I am updating it as and when possible. Unfortunately, there is another page with a similar intent, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_cinematographers (I can't seem to link internally to it, can you tell me how?). I need to know how to merge either that article into mine, or vice versa. Also, the person who last updated that page has linked from that page to his own site. Is that good etiquette? How do we proceed in such circumstances? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unnikrishnan.am (talk • contribs) of 27.06.2006

Hi, I have given the proper category and your page now appears there in the Category:Indian cinematographers. You may likewise categorise the pages, you are creating. I have removed the commercial link. In case, you find any such commercial link, please feel free to remove them. All the best! --Bhadani 15:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
In case you are interested, you may become a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cinema. Best. --Bhadani 15:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Help!

Hello Bhadaniji! Could you help me address the concerns of User:Bharatveer on the Ladakh page. I don't think I am fully capable of understanding them. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I will carefully see the edits. But, one thing I can assure you: some people do not believe in the integrity of wikipedia and will do all the possible damage to the Project. --Bhadani 18:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Birthday thanks

Thanks for the birthday wishes. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 05:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi WP

Hi Bhadaniji. I was wondering if Indic support is what is preventing you from contributing to Hindi WP. If that's the only reason, I'll be happy to transliterate articles for you, if you write them in Roman script. I think the Hindi wikipedia is in a seriously bad condition. deeptrivia (talk) 15:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Me: Yes. The position is that I can not type in Devnagri script even if I instal the indic script. In Roman script I can type fast. I want to create all the required articles in Hindi wikipedia. We will do that - I shal;l start the work in consultation with you and others. Let us make the Hindi wikipedia better. I am ready to do what ever is possible. Thanks for your message. --Bhadani 17:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

more eyes on the essay?

Hi Bhadani, I have recently encountered two other editors who work hard to improve articles and/or delete nonsense. With your permission I would like to point them towards your essay and invite their comments on the Talkpage there. I would only do this if you are ready for more input; if not, that's fine too :) --Doc Tropics 17:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I pointed them to the essay and I thught they both made good comments. Is that the kind of input you were looking for? I know you have specific goals and your guidance will help keep things on track :) --Doc Tropics 17:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Kadisha Valley

Hi, I am quite confused about the reasons of your contribution on the Kadisha Valley discussion page. Why did you add the Arabic script tag? {{arabic}} The article does have the Arabic script version of the placename in its lead paragraph. Can you clarify? Thanks. FrancescoMazzucotelli 21:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hindi WP message

Hi, I also posted on your hindi talk page. There is already a page that has 1000 most needed articles similar to Simple wiki. It is called hi: विकिपीडिया:कुछ प्रारंभिक लेख जो कि हर भाषा के विकिपीडिया में होने चाहिए. Btw, For the transliteration process, can u make some type of code for the "na"s "da"s "ta"s etc. Maybe one can be capitalised when the other is not. For big "a"s, please use aa, for big e, i, o, and u, use ai, ee, au and oo respectively. Thanks GizzaChat © 02:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for entering into this conversation uninvited. I just wanted to ask whether you can read the text in Hindi, like "कुछ प्रारंभिक लेख जो कि हर भाषा के विकिपीडिया में होने चाहिए" or you just see boxes? If not, probably I can transliterate that list of topics into Roman script. Also, for me, I won't mind if you don't have a strict code for transliteration. I should be able to guess from context. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 03:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Nothing to be sorry about. You and all are most welcome. As regards Gizza's suggestion, I will surely keep this in mind and develop some system. I am not very particular about tranliteration, so free flow of transliteration shall surely be better. As I use different PCs so sometime I see boxes and sometime, I am able to read too. Regards. --Bhadani 14:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)