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[edit] Two forms of the wheel of life
I removed the 
image placed in the article by Jketola. He states:
"The following diagram illustrates the basic wheel of life. More elaborate versions of this motif have been included in much of the art of these faiths."
From my understanding, this symbol is the icon for Buddhism; a wheel with eight spokes represents the Noble Eightfold Path. The Wheel of Life rendition is similar but is more of a complex illustration (probably too gracphically intense of wiki at this time). If I'm mistaken or someone wishes to develop this article further, lets discuss. Be well. Usedbook 23:51 24 May 2003 (UTC)
- Well, the Wheel of Life is an abstract concept that has been illustrated in different ways by different people at different times. Both wheel_of_life.png and the wheel in the Flag of India (q.v.) symbolize the Wheel of Life, but neither is in any way more "authentic" or "correct" than any other.. Mkweise 01:41 25 May 2003 (UTC)
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- Your correct, there is a connection, so I'll restore his contribution. Specifically though, the wheel and image on the flag of India, as I understand it, is actually the Dharmachakra (or in Pali: Dhammacakka). It is similar to the ancient symbol of dharma, which has been given over 50 definitions over the centuries. Usedbook 20:39 25 May 2003 (UTC)
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- There are two primary forms of the wheel of life. One form is six- or five-spoked and used in all the dharmic religions. The other form is eight-spoked and used primarily in Buddhism. I have rewritten the article to detail the differences between the two as well as how they are related. —Lowellian (talk) 21:21, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] thanka from Nepal
I have a thanka from Nepal with this on it, and could provide a photo if it's ever needed. It's genuine and one-of-a-kind. --DanielCD 02:01, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Split
This article confused the Wheel of Becoming (Bhavacakra) with the Wheel of the Dharma (Dharmacakra). These are two totally different symbols which differ greatly in appearance, and differ totally in meaning. The Dharmacakra is an auspicious symbol that reminds one of the Buddha and his teaching. The bhavacakra is a didactic tool representing the miseries of samsara. I therefore separated them out into two articles, leaving the Bhavacakra material under "Wheel of life". The Dharmacakra material has gone into an article titled Dharmacakra. I have made a few other edits for the sake of simplicity and accuracy. RandomCritic 08:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not being an expert in this topic, I have no objection to your changes, however since you are making major changes it would be wise to supply sources documenting the information you are adding. Could you help strengthen the reliability of Wikipedia by citing your sources? --Blainster 20:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- RandomCritic is correct. RC - do you have any material on the source of the diagram? I recall a distant teaching whereby it was explained that this came from India, and was not developed in Tibet. Apparently it was used as a didactic advice to a king, who found it so useful, he wanted it to be painted on the walls of each monastery in his domain. Well.. that's what I recall, but I may be mistaken! :P (20040302 09:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC))
[edit] three part yin/yang
There is also sometimes seen a three part yin/yang, what does that signify? Chris 17:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] additional redirect to bhavacakra?
hi all,
would it be possible for someone more wiki-savvy than i to add a redirect from "bhava chakra" or "bhavachakra" to the current article? in america, it is quite common to see "chakra" as an alternate romanization of "cakra". i had a difficult time finding this article until i searched for "wheel of life" due to this problem. thanks!
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- Bhavachakra already redirects to this article. I've never seen "bhava chakra" written as two separate words in any source. RandomCritic 15:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another wheel of life
A very different wheel of life, although I'm not sure where it comes from, breaks your life up into 8 different areas, which are roughly:
personal growth
significant other/romance
fun and recreation
friends and family
physical environment
money
health
career
I'll try to find a little more about it, or find someone who knows more than I.--Alancurrie78 07:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Face of Glory
If there aren't any reliable refrences to this, I think it should be deleted as it does not correpsond with the accepted symbolism. Jmlee369 08:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
