Talk:Bhagawan Nityananda/Archive 1

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Contents 1 Copyright Violation 2 Proposed external link 3 Personal 4 Expanded article 5 References

Copyright Violation

This article is not a copyright violation of a website, but is possibly a copyright violation of the book:

• Nitya Sutras: the revelations of Nityananda from the Chidakash Gita, by M.U. Hatengdi and Swami Chetananda. Rudra Press. Cambridge Massachusetts, 1985. ISBN 0915801027

For instance, the introduction is a direct copy of material from the back cover.

The rest of the article is directly copied from the first chapter, and from the reading I did, the author(s) made no attempt to rewrite the material.

Proposed external link

More stories from devotees are here:

http://www.bhagawannityananda.org/bn.html

I have not compared these stories with the ones on the Nityananda Institute web site. However, I think there is little if any duplication. Therefore I think it might be worthwhile to add this link. Alfalfahay 14:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Make sure that it conforms to WP:EL and then be bold and add it. You don't really need to propose changes on talk pages, simply go ahead and make them. Happy editing!TheRingess 14:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

The reason people discuss things first is that they hope to avoid the vandalism that routinely goes on in the name of editing, eg on the SY articles.

Sardaka 10:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully you are not referring to another editor's good faith edits as vandalism. That's considered a personal attack. IPSOS (talk) 05:29, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal

I don't think it qualifies as personal attack because it was a general statement that did not name anyone in particular. I know I get a bit worked up sometimes, but it gets frustrating when people go around deleting other people's contributions.

Sardaka 10:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Apart from that, I've been working on a full-length article on Nityananda, which should be up in a few days.Sardaka 10:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Expanded article

Well, folks, I didn't start this article, but there wasn't much to it, so I decided to expand it. Hope you like it.

Sardaka 11:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a good start. Though the article seemed to be as much about SY and Muktananda as it was about Nityananda. The material about muktananda probably belongs on his page and the material about SY belongs on that page.

There is also no mention of other organizations that also revere Nit. Since we mention SY and not them, the article becomes dangerously close to being non neutral.

I suggest that we expand the article to mention those other organizations.

TheRingess (talk) 13:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

References

Why did you delete the references to Meditation Revolution? We're supposed to provide references when possible, and Med.Rev. is the main source of info.

This is why I'm not working on the SY articles anymore. Too many cooks spoiling the broth.

Sardaka 09:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I made several edits to the new material recently. If you look back through the history you can see which ones I made.

I did remove the following: This statement became one of Swami Muktananda's classic teachings and is frequently used in the Siddha Yoga organization. Since this is more about Muktananda than it is about Nityananda and seems to me to belong either on the SY page or on Muktananda's page but not here. Of course, that's just an opinion.

I also removed: He manifested more wonders, like truckloads of food mysteriously turning up just when they were needed. He often went naked, regardedless of the weather, and never showed any sign of discomfort. He is said to have even exhibited the power to be in two places at once. The first sentence is poorly written and presented as fact, when these are just stories told about him.

I also removed the final line about the lineage, once again this probably belongs on either the SY page or Muktananda's page.

The few sentences I mentioned above did reference Meditation Revolution, so those refs were deleted as well. I didn't remove any other references to MR, what I did was reformat the references. As the article stands, MR is used as 4 references.

Your rewrite presented almost as much material about SY and Muktananda as it did about Nityananda. There are several organizations that claim Nityananda as their first guru, it seemed to me to non neutral to not mention them and too non neutral to give only the Siddha Yoga history.

TheRingess (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)