Talk:Betty and Barney Hill abduction

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[edit] analysis

Under "Analyses" - "Their story may be true", is that really necessary?

  • While I suppose it MAY be a valid claim, it most certainly isn't the result of an analyses (where is the argument for it being such?). As such, I removed that as well as the possible star system section thingy. The proposed systems are so different that any medium that could be mistaken for one or the other is fundamentally flawed. Thought 16:59, 14 July 2005 (UTC


  • I think that this might have been a little inpiration for the interracial couple in The 4400 --Fantact 03:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star system

In a Q&A about SETI from Seth Shostak, it was revealed that the star system that the two thought the aliens came from was already researched and no signal came from the system. http://www.space.com/searchforlife/seti_thursday_060720.html Anyone wanting to put that in? 72.92.156.175 06:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't mean anything since radio waves travel at a certain speed, civilizations can be seperated by many thousands of years, and they might have different technology..Mahmud II 01:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images?

I'm fairly certain that images exist (in one form or another) of sketches of the aliens and of the incident. Also someone must have an image of the couple. I think both of these would greatly help this article...Also was the Alien who examined Betty Hill called "the Examiner" or "the doctor"? As this article says she called him "the Examiner" but then starts going on about "the doctor." Humorbot5 17:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

for the sketches and obviously any image like this:
http://www.magma.ca/~latour/photo10.jpg
For the Betty/Barney image. Humorbot5 18:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

  • images for these two exist everywhere from books.Check google images.I dont think this article looks at all acurate without any images.People will obviously not give it any credibility without images.-Vmrgrsergr 03:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Headers

It looks to me like there are too many headers for the article. I think it would look a bit better if we cut back on the size 3 headers. --OGoncho 08:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] what is about RA Wilsons mentioned "nazi regalia"?

[edit] User:Abe.Froman Is Censoring Information

Abe.Froman is trying to censor information about Betty and Barney Hill. This information is very important because the entire episode was due to the stress of being a mixed race couple during this civil rights era.

Please Assume Good Faith. I removed the phrase "mixed-race" from the lead because the information was already in the background section of this article. Repeating it in the lead lends it undue weight. Abe Froman 22:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

You removed it because you were trying to censor it. It is an integral part of this story.

Please read the entire article. It was repeated twice, that is why I removed it from the lead. Because it is repeated in "Background". Abe Froman 03:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

So you are admitting that you are trying to censor it from the lead?

Please read the UNDUE WEIGHT section of WP:NPOV for the policy reason I used to I removed it. Repeating the fact that the Hill's are/were a mixed race couple is not necessary because it was already done in the Background section of this article, which sits underneath the lead. Why are you so determined to highlight the fact that this couple is mixed-race, anyway? Abe Froman 03:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Instead of censoring information, face the facts. Where I come from (Watseka, Illinois), there are plenty of interracial marriages. This information is very important because the entire episode was due to the stress of being a mixed race couple during this civil rights era. Steve.

Back it up with citations and it might stay in ;) Wikipedia is not about conjecture and assumptions. -- GIR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.47.12.8 (talk) 04:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] This article lacks objectivity

The point of view of the article as well as the comments on this discussion page shows that those working on the article have their own ax to grind.


There was no missing time for the abduction to have taken place. That was established during the era of the event. Believers of alien abduction refuse to include that fact. Today there is a blog from a local to the area. It uses Betty's account to point out that driving even a short distance at five miles per hour would have taken over an hour. Additional excursions looking for somewhere to have coffee and eat also ate up time adding to their normal trip time.

Although this article has a picture of the Outer Limits alien there is no comparison to Barney's drawing. Major features of his sketch, the eye cleft extending from the center of the face to disappear over the human ear location, match the appearance of that program character.

But don't let the facts ruin a nonsense Wikipedia article. Material like this is the reason Wikipedia has such a poor reputation. This article should be corrected or deleted.

VisionAndPsychosis.Net, my site, points to a little known problem of human physiology known to cause mental breaks. Barney was a postal worker and would have had Subliminal Distraction exposure if he worked in the Post Office building to sort the letters for his route. He had psychosomatic complaints, Betty's words, that were never resolved. That was the reason for the trip. Subliminal Distraction acting when Qi Gong and Kundalini Yoga are correctly performed produces just that type problem. It also causes fear and paranoia. No one will ever prove that the abduction was real. But if there is still information available about that Post Office Subliminal Distraction exposure can be proved.

The conflict of their interracial marriage is often cited as the cause of their incident. But there is no evidence they ever had any such problems.

There is no mention that their home had a rental apartment so that there were people close by to do things like put a pair of Betty's blue ear rings in a pile of leaves on the kitchen table while they were out. Only someone living nearby would know when they would be away for enough time to enter the home and execute a prank.

There are links on my page about Barney and Betty. I emailed Betty's relative who operates the foundation to confirm my information.

69.1.46.40 (talk) 18:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC) L K Tucker