Talk:Betty Williams (Nobel laureate)

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Contents 1 Plaques 2 Thank you Drudge. 3 WikiProject class rating 4 References

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[edit] Thank you Drudge.

We will be sure that history records what Ms. Williams said about killing Bush.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lorus77 (talk • contribs)

These quotes, included as they are, by taking the two most inflammatory phrases out-of-context and seperating them by ellipses, does nothing to inform the reader and seems like a sensationalist attempt to paint her in the worst possible light. Ashmoo 23:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• What a cop out. Everytime a liberal gets caught with their pants down, it's always "taken out of context". Give me a break. I listened a sound clip of her comments....believe me...she MEANT what she said. --Rambone (Talk) 03:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, I've read her comments in context, she is another person who apparently claims to teach tolerance of others, yets advocates the killing of those she disagrees with. I'd like to ask her about all the people and kids Saddam Hussein murdered. Of course in her world it apparently never happened, not even enough for her to mention it.

• Amen. Not to mention the entire city of men, women, AND children that he had wiped out and the city removed from the maps. The simple act of saying the phrase at all, regardless of the context (I don't really know any other context where one would say such a thing and mean anything else), should make the committee re-evaluate the way they choose the people to award the Peace prize to. It's appalling. People such as she are the kind who cause far more problems than they ever solve, no matter how high profile their solutions may be. She's an embarrasment to we Irish.Posala

I think it would be appropriate to at least give her entire statement. There's really no need for the ellipses, neither space or succinctness warrants them. That quip about U.S. law possibly being applied to an Irish woman speaking in Australia seems trite and partisan as well.

• By all means go ahead and put up the entire statement. What she said would be acrime in US. At least that should be clear. I think it is safe to say that she will not be visitng teh States any time soon. --Lorus77
• If you read the Wikipedia article, it states that Betty Williams was married to a US citizen and now lives in Texas, which makes her a US resident and generally subject to US law. The law in question is not explicity limited in its scope to the geographical constraints of the US. I have restored the statement of the violation of US law because it is relevant. Making threats to kill someone is generally a crime, and making threats to kill the President of the US is specifically a crime, particularly when you live in and under the protection of the same country. We can't gloss this over, sorry. The reader can read the context of the speech and make up her mind.Kevinp2 14:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC) I've met Betty Williams while attending Sam Houston State University and I have immense respect for her and her beliefs and work towards making the world a safer place for children. I applaud her courage to speak out about my president, after all hasn't the entire american fight been about that exact freedom to have and voice an opinion??? I also applaud her move back to Ireland in 2004, my perception being that she couldn't swallow the insanity of this current war and this presidency. I know many Americans that feel the same way, this presidency hasn't made any sense since the very beginning with the vote count failing in the president's brother's state, how coincidental... And even the U.S. secret service understood her statements about killing the president were just a voicing of her complete frustration with the war situation and the president's apparent closed mindedness towards any alternate solutions. I am soo tired of this attack of anyone voicing an opposing opinion towards our president or this war by my country. Country western singers, nobel laureates even former Presidents, anyone brave enough to voice an opposing comment about President Bush or this war are attacked with vehemence as disloyal or unpatriotic. The entire American struggle has been to provide us the American people a safe and free place to live and communicate. To help lead the world in seeking freedom through democracy and instituting human rights. But under this president if anyone dares speak against the him or the war he's created they suddenly lose those very rights the entire American experience has worked so hard to create. Under this president all the work towards rights for POW's and humane situations without torture, were tossed out the window. Where are the news anchors of the 70's and 80's? the ones not afraid to ask the right questions and to report the real news? Why are the very few people courageous enough to fight for peace so quickly attacked with no media spokespersons courageous enough to point it out? Betty you keep it up maam you give me hope! Cheryl Juarez Texas, U.S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.241.159.155 (talk) 15:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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The reference section is blank (possible vandalism?) - can someone fix this? Peter Clarke (talk) 10:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)