Talk:Berwyn Mountain UFO incident
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[edit] Newspaper article
This article has been cited in the Western Mail: [1], making it sound like original research. The claims in the article need to be referenced properly. Gareth 09:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. There is not one specific reference in the entire article. Must have been a slow day on the Western Mail newsdesk... Pennywisepeter 09:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the version uploaded in October 2006 was based on original research by Roger Musson of the British Geological Survey, and his technical paper published in 2006 is top of the list of references (unfortunately unavailable online). Dr Musson's version was, I think, fair and balanced but the entry seems to have since been re-edited by the Andy Roberts fan club. IanR.
[edit] Incorrect main page
The main page claims it's fact, this is a complex event produced by a coincidence involving an earthquake, a meteor shower and poachers lights. It goes on to say, had a space body produced the 3.5 magnitude tremor it would have produced a visible crater. One word: "Tunguska!" The Tunguska event had an earthquake that dwarfed this one and still produced no crater. This is not to say that the objects in either case were space bodies. It could be said that some of the witnesses in both cases described objects that did not conform to more than phenomena. There's no facts! (User: Nosut 12:32, 20 March 2007)
[edit] What was reported?
The main page is titled the Berwyn Mountain Ufo Incident but doesn't mention what the witnesses claimed to of seen. At the web sight below you can listen to a witness by the name of Pat Evans, a local nurse. She claimed with her daughters, they saw a glowing orange ball. I think this should be stated on the main page. http://www.thewhyfiles.net/berwyn_mountain_Incident.html (User: Nosut 18:30, 23 March 2007)
- But then you should also report that the lights she saw have been identified as from poachers: http://www.uk-ufo.org/condign/berwart6.htm Skeptic2 (talk) 11:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I’m not so sure. It would not be the first time mysterious beams of light have been reported alongside earthquakes. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF0/083.html I think this should be noted on the main page as an alternative. User: Nosut 11:25, 9/1/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nosut (talk • contribs) 11:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "The Berwyn Mountain UFO incident?"
"Lets see how many times Pat Evens is mentioned...UM....."Zero!" And now lets see how many times the author "Andy J. Roberts".. who saw nothing is mentioned........? "Six times!" "It's easier to miss something that was there, than it is to see something that wasn't. Pat Evens saw what she said she saw. (User Nosut 21:30 14/4/07).
[edit] Similar event
With speculation removed what's left is something that has striking similarities to this event: http://www.iris.edu/news/IRISnewsletter/fallnews/senate.html I think this event should be mentioned on the main page for this reason. (User Nosut 1.05 23/12/07).
