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[edit] International Sportsworld Communicators

Apparently, Ecclestone used to own International Sportsworld Communicators (the company that owns the television and commercial rights to the World Rally Championship) before he sold it to David Richards in 2000. Unfortunately, I know very little about how Ecclestone came to own ISC, or the details of its sale. Maybe someone more knowledgeable could write something about this. SamH|Talk 22:59, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Done --Mark83 18:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

No mention of his special friendship with Tony Blair then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.95.100.109 (talk • contribs)

If you're referring to the donation scandal, yes under "Labour Party scandal". If you're referring to some special relationship with Blair in particular? No. Mark83 13:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Prix driver

To be a Grand Prix driver you need to compete in a Grand Prix! Bernie didn't. PaddyBriggs 06:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

He entered the 1958 Monaco Grand Prix but did not qualify. I think this counts as "driver." On the other hand, the article says he tried to qualify for two races in that year, but I only see him in the Monaco GP. JCCyC (talk) 23:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
If memory serves he was miles off the pace at Silverstone too.--Don Speekingleesh (talk) 11:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't think there's too much doubt that he drove during Qualifying at Monaco and Silverstone, the debate seems to be whether he was actually trying to qualify or was just messing about. Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slavica Ecclestone

Slavica Ecclestone was 1. born in Yugoslavia (todays territory of Croatia) but she is a Serb which parents are from the town LAKTASH in the Republik Serbland (Republika Srpska- Bosnia and Hercegovina) so that their children are spoken the serbian language. 212.87.151.104 (talk) 16:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

What I have put in and referenced is that she was born in Rijeka in Croatia in the then Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia. I've deleted the bit about the daughters speaking Serbian or Croatian, because it's not very important, it's unreferenced, and it seems to be a source of contention. If anyone has a reference that says Slavica is 'ethnically' Serbian, then by all means provide it (although you might want to think about whether it's actually important, we're all just people, you know. Peace. ;-)) 4u1e (talk) 08:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish?

Why is Bernie listed as Jewish? Is there a reference for this? Karpouzi (talk) 08:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed from list until a source is found. Karpouzi (talk) 10:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Found this at Google - list of Jewish millionaires. Bernie is at 442nd place. Also here, at the famous Jews homepage. --SpeedKing (talk) 07:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Erm, you may not have noticed, but your first suggested source is a 'Scholarly Library of Facts about Domestic & Worldwide Zionist Criminality'. It's just possible that there's some kind of non-neutral agenda there...which would probably include getting as many people as possible onto the list of powerful and influential members of the Jewish cabal that secretly rules the world <rolls eyes>. The second site says itself that it may be unreliable, and since this site is one of its listed sources, may be a circular reference anyway. 4u1e (talk) 07:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
A quick look at his biography (Bernie's Game by Terry Lovell) suggests not, since his parents were married in St Peter's Church in St Peter South Elham in Suffolk. Doesn't rule it out altogether, I suppose, but in the absence of any other reliable evidence, the category should probably be removed. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 07:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Just to confuse things further - the Times have mentioned that he's Jewish (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3654740.ece), think I saw it somewhere else too. But I'm more inclined to believe Terry Lovell's book.Don Speekingleesh (talk) 10:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Just to be clear, Lovell's book doesn't say explicitly that he's not. It's just that if his parents were married in a Christian church it seems unlikely (but not impossible) that they were Jewish, and if they weren't Jewish then it seems unlikely that Ecclestone is (again, not impossible). It would sort of depend what you meant by Jewish in the first place as well. I should also add that details of much of Ecclestone's early life are rather hazy, and (in my opinion) that's at least partly down to his own efforts to make them so! 4u1e (talk) 12:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
By the by, the Timesonline site seems to copy some of its content from Wikipedia, so it's not necessarily a good source either! 4u1e (talk) 14:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)