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Heath Ledger

Why did you undo my revision to Heath ledger? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MalcolmGould (talk • contribs) 18:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Because Ledger's name isn't Heathcliff. If I had reverted you it would have be reverted soon enough by someone else for the same reason. Benjiboi 00:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Many sources report it e.g. Internet Movie Database and as a sample from a search Human Archives Organisation. Do a search and you'll find many more. MalcolmGould (talk) 16:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I think you'll find that neither of those is considered a reliable source for that information. From the talk page archives I've found "Ledger himself said in a Vanity Fair article that Heath wasn't short for Heathcliff: (story here)
“ "Finally sitting down to a plate of meat loaf and potatoes—his curls blowing in the rising wind—he’s asked if Heath is a shortened version of Heathcliff. “No, just Heath. But I do have an older sister named Kathy,” he says. “Well, Kate.” ”
The subject of an article is general considered an expert on themself. Benjiboi 22:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough - the trouble with most sources, particularly on the internet, is that they mostly quote other sources, and so on, thus perpetuating one original (possibly unreliable) source. MalcolmGould (talk) 18:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Building articles here takes a bit of research sometimes! Benjiboi 21:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Blank?

I'm assuming this was a mistake...? --Closedmouth (talk) 12:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually no. That was a timeline that was being transcluded into an article thus making editing and verification difficult. There seemed to be no reason fr it as size issues of the article should be handled quite differently. I'm open to finding a better solution but I find that one unhelpful. Benjiboi 21:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Well if you want it gone, you could try prodding it. Blanking is almost always a bad idea. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. Thank you for the suggestion. Benjiboi 19:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Give me a break, the source itself said she was fired.

The wikipedia entry I linked to describes what happened to her as a firing, "termination of employment."

All you are doing is trying to whitewash what happened by clothing it in a euphemism.

That's probably beneath you. 72.222.181.186 (talk) 07:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The source you cited included the word "canned" in the title but no, did not say she was fired. I've added another reference which states she was. Please familiarize yourself with wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people and neutrality as we are writing an encyclopedia and we should be dispassionate as well as accurate. Please also avoid personalizing this and stick to content. Benjiboi 19:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The wiki definition for fired includes the word canned

Thank you for adding an ADDITIONAL reference to the one I already had used. The one I had used used the word CANNED which the wiki lists as a synonym for FIRED. Your fatuous pretense that you added anything to that is typical wikiposturing. But if it makes you feel better, go for it. 72.222.181.186 (talk) 07:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

As stated previously we are writing an encyclopedia and as such we need to do so with a neutral POV. I've added a reference that covers the assertion so I consider the matter resolved. Please save the personal remarks against me, other editors or even the subjects of articles for other websites. Benjiboi 00:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Just so you know, I have semi-protected Melanie Morgan for one week due to your report. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 02:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Benjiboi 03:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

J. Alexander (model)

ref and rewrite. Benjiboi

done. Benjiboi 00:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Peter Tatchell

add archive formatting, clean-up and add news sited box if valid. Benjiboi

done. Benjiboi 02:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

RSVP Cruises

RSVP Cruises, sold by Planet Out to Atlantis but is remaining independent? Benjiboi

RSVP Vacations Benjiboi
Moved to todo. Benjiboi 02:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

You might not want to check your discussion history.

Someone went nuts on your page. Casull 07:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Lol. Yes, they did, thanks to all who helped sort that out! Benjiboi 19:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Darren M Jackson

I see you put a rescue tag on the above article, can you let me know via the afd entry log if you believe to be notable under WP:ATHLETE by placeing a keep or comment thanks. Diamonddannyboy (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I've been involved with that article, at all. I'll take a look though. Benjiboi 21:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, my plate is quite full at the moment but I do have suggestions. Firstly, clean it up. At least if it looks more like an article should than others can more fully see whether it is "save"-able. I would also format those references, although not required it, again, may help. I would also dial back your AfD comments to be concise and neutral - "I believe that concern is met" is more neutral than saying, for instance "you know it does!". I know very little about bare knuckle fighting but I would consider trying Google books to see if he has been mentioned there and maybe even to give a little background as to the underground or "under the radar" nature of the sport. Good luck! Benjiboi 21:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Jooo hooooooo

Sure has been quiet over here. Just stopped by to say hi and , "Here's lookin atchoo, kid!".

Hope you're doing well! - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 03:18, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, yes, I've been sniped at quite a bit so have trimmed my watchlist (sigh - down to 1186 right now) to avoid stress triggers. I see your anti-b***shit efforts have continued with much success as well and appreciate all the anti-vandalism work. I have such a limited capacity for it! Keep up the good work and feel free to holla if anything arises. Benjiboi 18:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Atlantis Events

Atlantis Events, the largest gay and lesbian tour operator Benjiboi

moved to todo Benjiboi 12:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Heath Ledger

i have tried editing some of Heath Ledger's contents; please stop changing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pricey28 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I think you'll find that many, if not most or all of any changes I would make you'd get from other editors as well. That article in particular, has been greatly improved and is watched by quite a few folks. Constructive edits are always appreciated and if your not sure you can always ask on the talk page. Some questions have already been dealt with but we are always improving articles. Benjiboi 23:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, I've taken a break from that article but if needed can help on issues as I've been a part of the recent history. Benjiboi 01:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Bob Mackie

add further reading links and see if a couple of full articles exist. Benjiboi 01:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I am also a shemale.

I think the reason that you are confused is because you are not a shemale. SHMALES ARE SEPARATE SEX/GENDER AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WIT OTHERS.YOU HAVE TO BE SHEMALE TO UNDERSTAND THIS.THE NUMBER OF SHEMALES ARE VERY LOW AND THERE IS ALMOST NO ONE PROTECTING THEM.AND MOST OF THEM ARE ECONOMICALY SENSETIVE AND UNDER CULTUREL/SOCIAL DIFFICULTIAS ESSPECIALY WITHIN AMERICAN 'NEGATIVELY ABUSED FEMINIST CULTURE"BY MORE THAN HALF OF THE POPULATION.This resulted seeing many shemales in sex industry... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezlovetewusa (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Economicaly sensetive. Culturel difficultias. The number of shemales is very low. The number of shemales that have won spelling bees is even lower. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
teehee - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 17:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Now, now! They're just a new editor here, and editing in a sensitive area. Let's be nice! - Alison ❤ 07:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I changed the edits you made as they were unfocused and unencyclopedic. If this was your personal blog then great but it's not, it's the world's encyclopedia. You might want to post instead to the article's talk page and be a bit more clear about what should change on the article. Also this is not a soapbox so staying on point to changes to the article only would be best. If you want help just ask and others are generally happy to assist. Benjiboi 17:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Please stop. If you continue to template the regulars, you'll be laughed at. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 18:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Well the AfD was closed as keep and you deleted the article (Diff here) with a redirect falsely claiming that it was per AfD. I welcome constructive criticism but your actions seemed to welcome a warning even if it was a template. Benjiboi 19:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
No, I didn't delete the article. I simply removed the cruft and unencyclopedic material from it; even most people who voted "keep" said it should be cleaned up. You yourself wrote, "If plot-only is an issue then fix it". So I fixed it. The fact that nothing remained (since absolutely nothing in this article is salvageable) meant that a redirect to the main article was called for. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 19:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Personally I think that's semantics, you effectively deleted/blanked the content. I've open up a thread at Admin Noticeboard for Incidents concerning the AfD. Maybe it was prematurely/wrongly closed. Benjiboi 19:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Lily Allen and Friends

Thanks, a I aprecciate the tip of The LilY Allen and Friends episodes. :)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.11.108.245 (talk • contribs)

No problem! Benjiboi 20:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Darren M Jackson

What about a picture with some one like Dave Courtney would this help for notability, I have sited the Fighter Magazine as a reference,was you suggesting righting the whole article out ? Thanks for your kind work and help .Diamonddannyboy (talk) 07:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I would include it if it's free to use, that is, if you took and are giving the rights to use it. If someone is alive there is a presumption that a free picture is available. By the way once the photo is properly documented with source, license and rationale for use then we can send it to the image lab to be improved. Benjiboi 19:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


Val Schier

it's not libal if its true. Do you live in Cairns? Then how the hell do you know better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.99.250 (talk) 13:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm only guessing you're referring to the Val Schier article as that's the only one this IP has touched but I've not had anything to do with it. You may want to check our policies on biographies on living people to see if there was good cause to remove the "true" information. Benjiboi 19:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Block declined

Thank you for your recent report [1] to WP:AIV. However as 170.158.38.254 (talk · contribs) has only received a level-two warning this month, I am declining to block. For future reference, AIV criteria #2 ("the vandal must ... have vandalized after sufficient recent warnings to stop") generally means that except in the most egregious cases, a level four warning is required before a block will be levied. Thanks for your help in fighting vandalism. --Kralizec! (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I should also note that adding "and again" to the IP's talk page is not helpful as it makes the anti-vandalism bots lose track of the current warning level [2]. --Kralizec! (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me. As to the bots losing track I think they should be better programmed then as I find it more helpful to have the page organized so the humans both users and editors dealing with potential vandals can easily see what activity has gone on rather than one long list with various headings (and some warnings with no headings). To me it seems the bots should be improved to help us not our interests compromised to help the bots. Benjiboi 20:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Keep on fighting the good fight! It is appreciated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.126.252 (talk) 05:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well ... thanks! I do try. Benjiboi 07:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Brownie Mary, Counterculture of the 1960s, Hippies

Hi. Do you think it is appropriate to add {{LGBTProject}} to Brownie Mary? I think that it is. Also, since you have an interest in this and related topics, I was wondering if you would consider reviewing Counterculture of the 1960s and adding information about the gay rights movement to that page, particularly in regards to the Stonewall riots, etc. Finally, several editors have expressed interest in seeing some of this information represented in the hippie article, however you may have access to sources that I don't, as I haven't been able to find that many substantiating the overlap, but I believe they are probably there. And, if I have my facts right, I seem to recall reading somewhere that Harvey Milk was once a hippie. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 21:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Definitely the LGBT tag for Brownie Mary although the article should clearly spell out that she was beloved in the gay male community for her work with people with AIDS (which were overwhelmingly gay men) and later for her ongoing medical marijuana activism. I haven't looked lately but the article should rference she was arrested a few times for that.
I'd be happy to look at Counterculture of the 1960s and hippie; there certainly was LGBT folks there and a few articles that come to mind: Compton's cafeteria riot (1966); The Cockettes (way queer hippie commune); Lonnie Frisbee (gay hippie preacher); Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (started in two communes in the Haight).
Milk moved to SF in the early 1970s and was thought a hippie as he was a dope-smoking longhair queer. This ref might do. Benjiboi 21:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
You are unstoppable. Your answer jogged a memory: Gavin Arthur, aka Chester Alan Arthur III, grandson of Chester A. Arthur.[3][4][5]Have you ever heard of Gavin? It would be great if we could work him into the History of the hippie movement along with all the other information you've found, distilling the most important points into hippie. Do you recommend any other books? —Viriditas | Talk 11:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
For Gavin Arthur try this, and Gay by the Bay: A History of Queer Culture in the San Francisco Bay Area by By Susan Stryker, Jim Van Buskirk and Love Stories: Sex between Men before Homosexuality by Jonathan Ned Katz.
Some general homo hippie books...
Should keep you full for the moment! Benjiboi 13:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Urgent! please help me!

I'm the author of the article Myrzakulov equations and I'm not Myrzakulov. My english not enough to improve this my article. So I would like to ask personally you in order to improve the article and to keep it. Ngn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.46.72.14 (talk) 18:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've started the ball rolling. Benjiboi 01:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations are in order

The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
I was looking at the wiki tea party and I must second Fosnez's citation of your work on Chris Crocker (internet celebrity). I used the article the other day and was stunned. Shocked. ASTONISHED, by how good it was. Many many stars to you, oh one who references articles! You made my day but I didn't know it. Thank you! Gimme danger (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry about vandals. Please come back if you can. Wikipedia needs editors like you! (I just realized that this sounds really... gushing, but I swear it's sincere. Seeing a referenced article about a pop culture figure, one happy face. Having an article that I wanted to read be referenced: two happy faces.) --Gimme danger (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! That was a rescue from AfD article but much like the iconic Britney Spears the material keeps coming in! I do have to thank all the vandals on that one as they have forced it to being referenced coming and going. I still have a bunch of work to do on it but it does seems to be coming along nicely. Benjiboi 20:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Let's collaborate (Re: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Tlogmer subpages)

This MfD debate you and I are participating in seems to me to indicate a need for a policy that people can refer to. Would you be willing to workshop with me to develop one so that we can have a standard and avoid the weirdness currently ensuing in that discussion? ScienceApologist (talk) 17:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm open. I'm no template specialist but think that would be a good start as I agree that if material is popping in google searches we should have a way to make clear that the material is not official, etc. The template, IMHO, would point to a policy page about suggestions for handling material not in mainspace (I'm sure there are quite a few bits out there already) so having one spot that helps organize the present thinking would make sense. So my suggestion would be to
1. Develop a template specific to the issue if one doesn't seem to exist and
2. Research what guidelines and policies already deal with the subject.
3. Organize it into a user-friendly page to see what still needs addressing.
Once we have sorted out a few of the more core issues a bot could possibly be employed to add the template to articles that seem to fit the criteria. Benjiboi 20:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if this template would cover some of the issues or could serve as a starting point? Benjiboi 23:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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