Talk:Benjamin Netanyahu

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[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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Narrowly a B-Class - This could use citations and more references, not to mention further expansion.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 02:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Can't we do better than this? There's a huge wealth of information on Netanyahu, but almost nothing on this page. He was PM of Israel during the Internet age, for Gods sake!

Ha, you are complaining the article is weak. Why don't you jump on the pan and fix what you think is missing. Note, I am just responding because you are a little too vocal. Be a little more meek when seeking free assistance
Can we put this in about a person still alive?:
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories." Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, tells students at Bar Ilan University. Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

[edit] Translate from Hebrew version

As it is now, this article is little more than stub. The Hebrew version is excellent; if anyone is really fluent in Hebrew, please translate it and replace the English version.

[edit] Convenient timing

What, nothing in here about the report on poverty and the treasury in the state of Israel? The one slated to be published today, one day after Netanyahu's resignation from the ministry? Not a single local pundit, analyst, or comedian has let this uncanny "coincidence" slide. It's context that can't be omitted. I think simply stating that Netanyahu suddenly, much-belatedly decided to resign "for ideological reasons" compromises this entry's NPOV.

Update: Well, the report is in, and Israel is apparently the lowest ranked in the Western world, by whatever statistical measures they're using. Pity I know absolutely nothing about the financial specifics, nor even about what is officially classified as "the Western world". At any rate, the local media are having a field day. I don't suppose anyone here knows any of the detailed facts? The circumstances surrounding Netanyahu's resignation are clearly pertinent to this mini-bio. Yet, israel recieves between 10-15 million u.s. dollars a day.Can anyone tell us why the zionist ,not jewish, should take more revenue that any other country in the history of the U.S.A.? We,Americans, have not had an opportunity to deciede where our money goes.U.S.A. is also an occupied territoy of israel,it has a zionist majority.

[edit] Teaser about his marriage

I like the teaser about his marriage, but where is the link to click to get the answer?


--There is none. It was speculations.

-- What teaser? Where is it?

[edit] Military career

I live in the town where BN went to high school. The story told here is that BN went to Israel during part of his senior year of high school to participate in some military episode. Obviously I don't have the whole story, but it seems like something the article should cover. ike9898 22:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] While He Was Prime Minister

It shoudl also be included that there was Israeli terrorist attacks at this same time. The Goldstein guy who killed all of the praying Muslims, among others.

Perhaps a brief discussion of his response to Israeli terrorism would be worthwhile... Otherwise, I don't know what you would like to include. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Bibi, but he should not be equated with Kahanist lunatics. --(Mingus ah um 20:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Re: The 2006 Election

This article only has one sentence dedicatated to the recent election: In the March 2006 Knesset elections Likud shared the third and the fourth places with Shas, behind Kadima and Labor. This should clearly be expanded to include a discussion of the details of Likud's (that is, Bibi's) platform, as well as a discussion of Bibi's post-election fall from grace. --(Mingus ah um 20:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] From Mitt_Romney

After graduation from Harvard Business School, Romney went to work for The Boston Consulting Group, where he had been a summer intern in 1974. At BCG Romney worked with recent MIT graduate and future Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


[edit] Why is this happening to my edits?

I inserted the following, cited by "JewsAgainstTheOccupation" and (badly) sourced to Ha'aretz and it was summararily reverted, even though the details are well known.

Is it too much to ask that we be free to quote Israeli politicians in their biographies, even if their words are deeply embarrassing to Zionists? Ha'aretz editorial for 10 Dec 2003 [1] (Ha'aretz articles seem to move around, but it's there Nov 2006 and was also cited by JewishVoiceForPeace.org)

In his address Wednesday at the Herzliya Conference, Netanyahu said, "We have a demographic problem, but it lies not with the Palestinian Arabs, but with the Israeli Arabs." ........ "if Israel's Arabs become well integrated and reach 35-45 percent of the population, there will no longer be a Jewish state," and that even if they reach a lesser proportion, "this will also undermine the [state's] democratic fabric."
And Ha'aretz 18 Dec 2003 (according to [2] by Yair Ettinger, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Staff), member of the Knesset Azmi Bishara commented: "the scandal lies in the fact that this is the only country that speaks of millions of people, who are natives not immigrants, as a demographic problem."
"Describing the original residents of this land as a demographic problem would be considered racism in any normal, or even abnormal, country." He added.
Maybe those edits were too unsavory for Zionpedia editors?222.151.136.142 (talk) 02:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
yes it is too much to ask or do in public. the last thing jews need is a public cleaning of laundry. jews leading the attack on jews is not helpful. as a jew israeli and mother i think we should try to remember that the holocaust is only a while ago and antisemitism is a mile ago. the road to hell is paved with your good intentions raquel samper jewish comm murcia spain comunidad judia españa
I have moved your comments so they appear below earlier comments. Putting them in the midst of someone else's writing creates confusion. Also, please sign and date your talk page messages by typing four tildes (four of these: ~). Hertz1888 (talk) 20:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Glen Beck Interview

The little snippet about it seems a bit biased.

I honestly can't write to save my life, but the interview was all about the fact how radical muslims are inferior -- he makes sense of it by calling them out to be violent and hence primitive.

It also circuits on YouTube. Are we allowed to link it to YouTube? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.39.201.190 (talk) 10:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Expansion

He was Prime Minister for three years, yet the article contains only a small paragraph about what he did during that time and solely concerning his relations with the Palestinians and the peace process. In fact most of the Prime Minister section concerns his election, not his tenure.Furthermore the article does not go into great detail about his policies towards the Palestinians and says nothing about any of his other policies during his tenure. That's why I have tagged this for expansion. Olockers

[edit] I erased an admittedly untrue allegation

I erased an allegation that has been denied by "Yediot ahronot", the newspaper that was the supposed source of it. The paper admitted that Netanyahu`s alledged comment about seeing British soldiers (while he was born after the establishment of Israel) was the result of an editing error; Netanyahu simply said that he had seen military camps that had once belonged to the British Army. Asalmog 14:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Likud conservative?

They are a libertarian right-wing party (mostly in regard to economics and the mess with the arabs) they are rather liberal or centrist in everything else .

they are also not conservative in the sense of change , since that one would belong to the mapai , later labor party. who have been dominant for most of the knessets

[edit] Sex scandals

It seems odd to me that the extra-marital affair(s) attributed to Netanyahu (and, on at least one occasion, publicly confessed by him) are not mentioned in the "controversies" section. Perhaps this just needs to be expanded. See:

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9605/31/netanyahu.profile/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9607/07/israel.first.family/index.html

Springreturning 05:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies, Haaretz quote

There seems to be something of an edit-war regarding the paragraph:

In April 2008, Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan University that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had had one positive outcome for Israel: "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," adding that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."[1]

Calling the source (Haaretz) a "tabloid" or the article a "hack piece" isn't an argument. If you think the quote lacks context, add context instead of just deleting it.

Please discuss whatever grievances you have here before reverting again.

Cheers, pedrito - talk - 05.05.2008 07:04

Agreed. If the IPs have some legitimate concerns about the statements, please discuss them. Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 09:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Ha'aretz isn't a tabloid, though they can hardly be called politically neutral on the subject of this article. That being said, is that passage really necessary? --Relata refero (disp.) 14:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I added the paragraph to Reactions to the September 11, 2001 attacks#Benjamin Netanyahu statement. Imad marie (talk) 11:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
No, this isn't necessary. The Haaretz report doesn't even label this as a controversy. It received virtually no media attention at all and does not provide for a better understanding of who Netanyahu is. I say it should be removed per WP:Undue weight. --GHcool (talk) 20:50, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


The entire content of this section, as it currently stands, is inappropriate. The first "controversy" is around the event, not Netanyahu's participation in it, which is tangential to the story being reported. The second "controversy" is not labeled as such by the source. If anything, this section should include the extramarital affair mentioned in the section above - that's the only thing that canbe labeled a "contorvery". Canadian Monkey (talk) 00:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I've fixed the heading to better reflect the content. Cheers, pedrito - talk - 13.05.2008 06:36
well, that didn't "fix" anything - it just highlights how inappropriate that section is. Netanyahu did not make any statements at the event mentioned in the first paragraph, let alone “controversial” ones. As to the second paragraph – which reliable source has referred to these statements as “controversial”? Canadian Monkey (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)