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Contents 1 Sources and external links 2 Bendix Trophy vs. Honeywell Bendix Trophy 3 Winners 4 Talbott

[edit] Sources and external links

Regarding the naming, renaming and reverting of External links/Sources: I have no strong preference, but as the person who wrote the article, I did indeed use all the links as sources. However, Alkivar's comment in his summary has a corollary: future links might be added by other editors who do not also add to the article, so keeping the header "External links" where there are not both prevents that links which were not used as sources be incorrectly labeled as such. One puppy's opinion. KillerChihuahua^?!? 12:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Good solution, Alkivar - I was looking for one worthy of inclusion myself. Thanks much - KillerChihuahua^?!? 12:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bendix Trophy vs. Honeywell Bendix Trophy

While the Honeywell version of the trophy merits inclusion, the original award was the Bendix Trophy. Honeywell had nothing to do with the award until 1998, and then changed the awarding of the trophy from transcontinental speed to "air safety". Maybe create a redirect page for Honeywell Bendix trophy, but please don't confuse the two. McNeight 21:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winners

The list of winners is incomplete. Full list can be found at Quest for Speed (scroll to end of page). I don't have time right now to do the table, but will if no one has by the time I get some free time for it. KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

1947 and 1948 are on this page... still looking for 60, 61. KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks like '61 was Richard F. Gordon, Jr., (Captain, USN, Ret.) - a NASA Astronaut [1] "Los Angeles to New York in May 1961, he established a new speed record of 869.74 miles per hour and a transcontinental speed record of 2 hours and 47 minutes." No word on purse. '55 was another astronaut,[2] "Capt. Edward D. Kenny was awarded the Bendix trophy after winning the Bendix cross-country race, setting a new world's record time of 3 hours 1 minute 56 seconds, with an average speed of 616.208 mph in a Republic F-84F".

There has to be a site with all of these listed...

1950 apparently canceled due to Korean war: [3]

1956 here, no purse data [4]

Complete list winners names only, not the best looking source but if the ones we have match, will do for a start. [5]

Winners list to verify from here:

• 1931 Jimmy Doolittle
• 1932 James H. Haizlip
• 1933 Roscoe Turner
• 1934 Douglas Davis
• 1935 Ben O. Howard
• 1936 Louise Thaden and Blanche Noyes
• 1937 Frank W. Fuller Jr.
• 1938 Jacqueline Cochran
• 1939 Frank W. Fuller Jr.
• 1946 Paul Mantz (propeller), Leon W. Gray (jet)
• 1947 Paul Mantz (propeller), Leon W. Gray (jet)
• 1948 Paul Mantz (propeller), F. T. Brown (jet)
• 1949 Joe DeBona (propeller), Vernon A. Ford (jet) (Note: last year for propeller division.)
• 1951 Keith K. Compton
• 1953 William Whisner Jr.
• 1954 Edward M. Kenny
• 1955 Carlos M. Talbott
• 1956 M. J. Fernandez Jr.
• 1957 Kenneth Chandler
• 1961 Richard F. Gordon and Robbie R. Young
• 1962 Robert G. Sowers, R. MacDonald, and J. Walton

 ALKIVAR™ 21:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talbott

Carlos Maurice Talbott, retired a Lieutenant General, United States Air Force, and is buried in Arlington. Someone we should probably have an article on, actually. [6], [7], [8], [9]

The latter 3 of these all put Talbott's bendix in 1955 not 1954... I have corrected the article to reflect this.  ALKIVAR™ 07:41, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Also if you zoom waaaay the hell in on my photo in the article you will note the smithsonian exibit of the trophy lists Edward W. Kenney in 54 and Carlos Talbott in 55.  ALKIVAR™ 07:45, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Yep, you're right. All the sources but one list Talbott 1955. The pdf has Kenney 1954, Talbott 1955. The Time magazine article is clear that Talbott won in 1955, and the article was written in 1955. The last link is the notice that the award was being reintroduced as an air safety award, and clearly lists 1954 Edward M. Kenny, 1955 Carlos M. Talbott. [10] has Kenney 1954. [11] has Kenny 1954, with a picture. [12] (Luke AFB) has Kenney 1954. ("04 September 1954 - Capt Edward W. Kenny won Bendix Trophy Air Race and Bendix Trophy in F-84F when set cross-country record of three hours and two minutes for average speed of 616 miles per hour." I'm sorry, but Google for Kenny Bendix 1954, and there is a plethora of sources. Google for Kenny Bendix 1955, and you get www.aero-web.org, and nothing else. The link you give has Kenny 1954, Talbott 1955.

Off topic: Do you ever sleep, Alkivar? KillerChihuahua^?!? 07:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Sleep is for the weak. I can sleep when i'm dead... but seriously I sleep daylight hours usually (I work 3rd shift)  ALKIVAR™ 08:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)