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My apologies. I've gotten so used to companies that are just one among tens of thousands in their field; I didn't realize this was one which actually was notable in its field. -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:17, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The following (unsigned) comment was in the article, I have moved it here:
- I believe Benchmade was first named Pacific Cutlery.
--EngineerScotty 06:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you.
I ran across the Benchmade article on Wikipedia and edited the "Company Profile" link. The article is great. The Company Profile however pointed to a distributor's website which could be misleading.
[edit] Oregon Law
the article claims that there are no provisions against owning switchblades in Oregon.
I found a source at benchmade.com that confirms this, but I'd rather link to an actual legal document.
The only things I've found so far are the following:
- "An Oregon district court wrestled with the precise issue before this Court in United States of America v. 1,044 Balisong Knives, CIV NO. 70-110 (D.C.Oregon 1970), finding that "Although a person with the requisite skill can rapidly open a Balisong knife with one hand, the knives do not have blades which open automatically by operation of inertia, gravity, or both." "[1]
But OTOH, I've found a statute that explicitly states that:
- "any person who carries concealed upon the person any knife having a blade that projects or swings into position by force of a spring or by centrifugal force, any dirk, dagger, ice pick, slungshot, metal knuckles, or any similar instrument by the use of which injury could be inflicted upon the person or property of any other person, commits a Class B misdemeanor."[2]
It seems odd to me that if that snippet (from the official state website) is the relevant legislation, that Benchmade should still be stating that:
- "If you live in the state of Oregon, please email info@benchmade.com and attach a digital photo or scanned image of your Oregon Driver License for review and approval of restricted purchases online."[3]
Anyway, I'm still searching but if someone finds/knows anything, I'd appreciate a message :-) --User24 22:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Hi, thanks for looking for citations. If you didn't already you can try searching the Oregon Revised Statutes here: [1]. Let me know if you need more help. I'm not particularly interested in knives, but I used to work with ORS. Katr67 23:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC) P.S. The 2005 ORS is the most up-to-date version of the law, so that should be what is cited. Katr67 23:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I couldn't resist looking. The annotated version of ORS 166 reveals a lot of info if you search for "switchblade": ORS 166 anno. Katr67 23:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- heh, no prob; I'm into both knives and law (though my legal experience is amateur UK law)-anyway, thanks for that link; it helps, but I still don't understand fully, all the cases seem to conclude that it's fine for people to carry switchblades, but the legislation seems to pretty clearly outlaw them, unless the case history overrides the statute, or the statute is out of date. --User24 23:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what to tell you--Oregon has some pretty weird laws, and we like it that way. :) I really should step away from the computer, but I'll look over the case law stuff when I get a minute. Maybe the article could be worded to read something like "although switchblades are illegal in Oregon, various interpretations of Oregon law say blahblahblah...." Katr67 23:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- perhaps, but I'm wondering whether it's actually central enough to the article in the first place to warrant a full investigation (such as the one I've been on tonight - d'oh!).
- Anyhow, I'll probably dig around at some later date and if in the meantime you've found something, that'd be cool :-) thanks for the help --User24 23:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- LOL "I'm wondering whether it's actually central enough to the article in the first place to warrant a full investigation"--true dat. :) Katr67 23:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what to tell you--Oregon has some pretty weird laws, and we like it that way. :) I really should step away from the computer, but I'll look over the case law stuff when I get a minute. Maybe the article could be worded to read something like "although switchblades are illegal in Oregon, various interpretations of Oregon law say blahblahblah...." Katr67 23:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- heh, no prob; I'm into both knives and law (though my legal experience is amateur UK law)-anyway, thanks for that link; it helps, but I still don't understand fully, all the cases seem to conclude that it's fine for people to carry switchblades, but the legislation seems to pretty clearly outlaw them, unless the case history overrides the statute, or the statute is out of date. --User24 23:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I couldn't resist looking. The annotated version of ORS 166 reveals a lot of info if you search for "switchblade": ORS 166 anno. Katr67 23:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for looking for citations. If you didn't already you can try searching the Oregon Revised Statutes here: [1]. Let me know if you need more help. I'm not particularly interested in knives, but I used to work with ORS. Katr67 23:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC) P.S. The 2005 ORS is the most up-to-date version of the law, so that should be what is cited. Katr67 23:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
