Talk:Beloved (novel)

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[edit] Not very detailed analysis

What is there on Beloved is simple not avery detailed, or in places good, analysis. Many key points needed to understand the work are missing, and some information is misleading - for example the sentence that Sethe does not bother with her ther children anymore is simply wrong, as only Denver is still in the house anyway. Otherwise, some characters as her two sons are negleted completly. Please someone, sort this out!

[edit] Beloved's status

An anon editor just changed the part about Beloved being Sethe's daughter to "it remains vague whether" Beloved is Sethe's daughter. I reverted it; I thought it was quite clear who Beloved was, to Sethe, to Denver, to Paul, and to the folks who come and perform the exorcism. | Klaw ¡digame! It might be clear to them, but it is never said outright. Wikipedia is not about conjecture, but plausible theories can be presented (i think) as long as it is clear they are theories.

I agree, Beloved's status is very ambiguous throughout. Although there are suggestions she is Sethe's daughter, there are also vague references to the character being stolen by white men and placed on a cramped slave ship (which Sethe's dead child never experienced, having lived and died on American soil). --131.111.247.135 (talk) 19:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nobel prize?

It mention's Beloved as a pulitzer prize winner - I was under the impression that Toni Morrisson had received a nobel prize in literature for Beloved. My edition certainly mentions the nobel prize on the cover.

Morrison won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1993, six years after Beloved was published. The official Nobel website states that she was a recipient because she is one "who in novels characterized by visionary force and poetic import, gives life to an essential aspect of American reality;" [1] so Beloved is one of the many reasons she was honored, but not the only reason. The Nobel prize recognizes an author's full body of work, not just one piece of it. Maria 14:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
"Beloved" itself won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1988. http://www.pulitzer.org/ (click on 1988). Anrie 14:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sounds too much like a notes site

This page sounds too much like SparkNotes or some other similar source. Perhaps the section on themes should be removed and instead have a synopsis of the book, with references to notes sites rather than using this page as an analysis of major themes. This page also could use more citations. Just a thought 24.31.111.166 05:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pronunciation

Is the second e in Beloved in this case mute or not? --128.176.233.115 18:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

> Sethe (pronounced "Seth-uh")

Would that be ['seθə]? --128.176.233.115 10:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I believed the seconde "e" in "Beloved" is voiced, as it is from the phrase "Dearly Beloved" (from which Beloved got her name). I'm not sure about the pronunciation of "Sethe": it is mentioned in the book that it is a man's name, so it could very well be pronounced like the modern "Seth". Anrie 14:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The mother of Sethe is shown calling her "Seth-uh"; however, it is possible Sethe's mother is a native african, and the resulting "uh" is just a result of an accent.

[edit] =Plot summary

wow, that needs work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.237.90.163 (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)