Talk:Belo Horizonte

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Contents 1 Deletions 2 Belo Horizonte 2.1 Corrections 2.2 Roads 2.3 Claim of Unbalanced Sex Proportion 3 Please contribute to this article 4 Weather 5 References 6 Planning?

[edit] Deletions

I have performed two deletions today. (Yeah, I was not logged in when I did it.) First, the Demographics section: it stated wrong numbers for in-town and metropolitan area population (in complete disagreement with those in the infobox) and was overall poorly written. Demographics information must be added, but after proper research and writing. The second was a "Curiosity" (Trivia) section that was completely incomprehensible. I understand that people want to contribute but, please, let's not worsen the article by adding non-sense to it. --AndreFillipe 11:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

And a third one, "Notable people". Sepultura is not notable people: they're a band. If the author wanted to put the name of their favorite band in this article, he should at least have added other (more notable) names. --AndreFillipe 12:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belo Horizonte

I remember a beautiful evening in a West End street, letting my tongue be taught the easy tones of the Portuguese language, "Belo Horizonte" and wishing my Brazilian friends did not have to go back to their beautiful place in the southern sun, but could stay and spread their warmth throughout London. I have never visited that far off place but its bright sun has touched these cold, damp shores, and I will never forget. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:41, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I could say all the same things, except that I subsequently did visit BH and lots of other places in Brazil. But this isn't a message board. Notreallydavid 01:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Someone could get a photo of the new tower, in the Altavista Shopping... it is quite a noteworthy change ni Belo Horizonte's landscape. Rodrigoleite 02:39, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

A picture of Altavista tower should not be included in this article for it's architecture is not only an offense to Belo Horizonte's scenario, but also completely different from the architecture of Minas Gerais. And still, it will close pretty soon for no one go there anymore.

A picture taken FROM the Altavista tower would be nice, though. I believe there is a webcam set up on its top. --AndreFillipe 02:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corrections

I rearranged the introduction so that it now sounds more encyclopedic. The picture in the City Infobox shows the Palace of Liberty; the Liberty Square is almost invisible. --AndreFillipe 14:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roads

I think the section about roads and highways could be improved. I changed it a bit and now I'm working on a map, using sources from DNER. Hope to finish it soon. --AndreFillipe 18:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Claim of Unbalanced Sex Proportion

"One of the characteristics for which Belo Horizonte is best known in Brazil is its overwhelming proportion of women to men. In the mid 1990's there were more than 175,000 more women than men. Nobody knows the reasons for this, but some say that job opportunities outside the state have attracted men away from Belo Horizonte, while women would rather stay close to their families."

I removed the previous paragraph from the article because it has three questionable claims: first that Belo Horizonte is well known for unbalanced proportion of women to men. Sources would help. I live in Belo Horizonte and never heard of such thing. (But have, for Sete Lagoas.)

Second, the data presented (so many more women than men) is not at all an indication of "overwhelming disproportion". A toy research on IBGE results for 2000's census^{[1] [2]} ranks Belo Horizonte as the second southeastern capital (tied with Vitória) regarding the women:men proportion. The results consider only urban population, disregarding age. They are:

1. Rio de Janeiro, 113:100
2. Belo Horizonte, 112:100
3. Vitória, 112:100
4. São Paulo, 110:100

However, an interesting result arises. Governador Valadares, popularly regarded as having far less women due to emmigration of men to the US has the same 109:100 proportion. The average for the whole country (and also for the Southeastern region) is 106:100. It's also common for western countries to have Sex ratios that favor the women population.

Someone with more time could perhaps dig deeper into IBGE's website and restrict the comparison by age (e.g. from 18 to 35) because I have a hunch that this misbelief is "conversa de barzinho".

The third disputable claim is the guesswork that says men leave the state while women stay with their families. Even if the population dynamics results from the census shows more men leaving, without further data that would only mean correlation, not cause.

--AndreFillipe 02:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please contribute to this article

Hello my fellow Belo Horizontinos and people who know Belo Horizonte,

Let's improve this article with every information we can find. And please do not forget to add your references. One day, perhaps, we might reach the featured article status.

Today an anonymous user made good contributions to this article, but a city like Belo Horizonte deserves contributions from many people.

I shall be willing to help anyone if necessary!

Cheers!

Cheiro de lysoform 02:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Weather

Could anyone supply _referenced_ weather data? I've just done some work to make the weather section cleaner and tighter, but I don't know where to find weather data for Brazil. (I'm English, but I've been to BH - Hi Angela, if you're reading) Notreallydavid 01:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I replaced the weather table with an infobox template. The data is provided by Weatherbase. I searched IBGE (the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics) for this data, but couldn't find it. The description of the weather is however rather vague and inaccurate. I'll try and find a decent source and rewrite it. --AndreFillipe 14:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

1. ^ Tabela - População residente, por sexo e situação do domicílio, população residente de 10 anos ou mais de idade, total, alfabetizada e taxa de alfabetização, segundo os Municípios (Portuguese). IBGE. Retrieved on 2006-09-01.
2. ^ Tabela - População residente, por situação do domicílio e sexo, segundo as Grandes Regiões e as Unidades da Federação (Portuguese). IBGE. Retrieved on 2006-09-01.

[edit] Planning?

Can we get some more info on the planning? From reading this it sounds like Grand Manner or Baroque planning like Washington, DC, is that the case? --AW 22:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Well... There are some very important pics of the city missing... For instance, Pampulha's church and September 7th square...