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I think the following text is now duplicative of more concrete statements, so I've removed it here. Anything you feel is missing, however, by all means work it back into the entry: "During this time, most of the United Provinces of the Netherlands were established to aid Dutch interests and most of these institutions flat out ignored Belgian demands. The Belgians saw this domination over these institutions as furthering Dutch domination in their own country." Wetman 20:22, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)


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[edit] "Refused"?

It's hard to tell, while sporadic fighting continued, what Willem I was "refusing" in the text: (William I, king of the Netherlands, would refuse the Belgian state until 1839, when he had to yield under pressure by the Treaty of London). Perhaps more detail of 1830-39's events is required? --Wetman 17:30, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

Wait! is this actually "refuse to recognize a Belgian state"? --Wetman 17:31, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it should be refuse to recognize a Belgian state ---moyogo 07:41, 2005 May 8 (UTC
Yup, fixed it. How could I be so thick?--Wetman 08:05, 8 May 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Fluent in Dutch?

You'd be lauded for incorporating into this article all the detail at the Dutch Wikipedia article noted in the flag at the top. The images might improve this article too. --Wetman 23:29, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flanders

When Belgium became independent in 1830, why was Flanders, with its Dutch-speaking inhabitants included in its borders? This is especially puzzling as the main force behind the Belgian Revolution was the domination of the Dutch in the United Kingdom of Netherlands. How did so many Flemings ended up in Belgian territory?

Because the original split had occured in the 16th century... the protestant provinces had broken away and become independent whereas all southern provinces (both Flemish and Walloon) remained Catholic and under Spanish and later Austrian rule. The breakup of Netherlands and Belgium happened along those lines with the Netherlands keeping parts of Limburg, Northern Brabant, Luxemburg and Zeeland at the negotiating table although they were formerly an official part of the south. -- Fdewaele 19:02, 16 September 2005 (CET)

Thanks for that!

[edit] "The Netherlands shook off their Napoleonic "Batavian Republic" in 1813."?

The Batavian republic ceased to exist in 1806. I think 'Napoleonic rule' would be better. 212.123.206.71 10:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly POV sentence

"In a sense, the Belgian Revolution was a revolution of a French-speaking upper and middle class that exchanged Dutch hegemony for French-speaking hegemony." I believe that this sentence is quite possibly POV. The Flemish lower classes also revolted against Dutch rule, perhaps not for the same reasons but they did revolt.--Ganchelkas 10:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted a few things

I just deleted these lines

"Public dissatisfaction and heightening tensions between the Flemish and Walloon peoples during the 2007 political crisis have resulted in the popularity of calls for the partition of Belgium; public opinion polls have shown that approximately 46% of Flemish people support secession from Belgium.[2] and that more than 66% of all Belgians believe that Belgium will have ceased to exist in 10 years.[3]"

Because: Source 3 doesn't mention anything about '66% of all Belgians believe that Belgium will have ceased to exist in 10 years' and many polls have been done with different outcomes about what the Flemish people want. I also think it's better to use different newspapers from Belgium (De Standaard, Het Laatste Nieuws, De Morgen, Het Nieuwsblad, GVA, De tijd, het Belang Van Limburg,... ) as sources instead of some vague Englisch source which only quotes 'Het Laatste Nieuws'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.244.144.244 (talk) 17:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question to User:Buster7

Hi there. You just changed a portion of the text to "... also fanned the fires of revolt.(see references) " ... what reference are you referring to? Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The references at the end of the article...and also in the edit summary.--Buster7 (talk) 22:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Does it make sense the change I just did? Miguel.mateo (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)