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[edit] Linking to a discography resource

I contributed by adding a new link to the musician's page. Wikipedia puts enormous weight on relying on Discogs and MusicBrainz as resources but I find that the external link I was adding [1] is as much, if not more, a useful resource to provide the user. I didn't know that this is considered 'spam' - if it is, I apologize but I think the links were reverted quickly without a second glance as to the merit of the resource. Mimecuvalo (talk) 01:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conflicting statements on affiliation with Scientology

In Background it says that it is just a rumour that he's a Scientologist, and that he is Jewish, but in Personal Life it says he is a Scientologist, in his own words. JordanZed (talk) 04:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

That's because the person who made the change (saying it's just a rumor) is incorrect. They are not just rumors--Beck has acknowledged being a Scientologist in numerous published articles since March 2005. On the other hand, he hasn't claimed to be Jewish for years. Candy (talk) 05:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] School Attendance and Last Name

I just undid the addition of this text: "During his childhood, he alternated between the names 'Beck Hansen' and 'Beck Campbell' according to school yearbooks. Beck attended the Scientology-affiliated school known as The Apple School for most of his youth until dropping out after the 9th grade in 1985." I realize that Beck has been widely reported to have attended the Apple School; however, I have never seen a reliable report of how long he attended. I don't see adding the information as a problem; it just needs to be documented. It's also not clear that Beck dropped out after the 9th grade in 1985. His reported statements on the subject have been inconsistent; I'm not sure which source could be accepted as reliable, aside from school records. About the name, I think saying what names he used in school yearbooks is okay if you can specifically cite the yearbooks.(And if we really want to get into what his name was in his school yearbooks, we should report that it was also spelled Bek in at least one of them!) It's clearly true that Beck has used both last names, but I don't think examples should be given without documentation. Candy (talk) 20:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move?

As a single word, the only identical use listed at the disambig is a "shortened form of the name Becky or Rebecca", which doesn't even have a link. I can't imagine that anyone would think "Beck" and think of Beck's beer, the river Beck, or any of the people listed whose last name is "Beck", before they'd think of Beck the musical artist. Jeff Beck is probably the next most famous "Beck" on the list and I don't think anyone commonly refers to him as just "Beck", do they? In other words, I think the way it's set up right now is the most appropriate way of doing it. -- Hux (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, this was discussed quite a bit in the past on this page, in entries that have been moved to the archive. I would leave it as is. Candy (talk) 16:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I had never heard of this musician Beck. To me here in England a beck is a stream, usually in hilly country. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Were you looking up "beck" on Wikipedia because you wanted to see what it had to say about streams? I don't think Wiki even has an entry for that usage of the term, does it? Candy (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Accurate Reproduction of Quotations

User:Hux deleted parts of a quote with the comment "It's perfectly normal and universally acceptable to quote using elipses to omit extraneous information; it's only inappropriate if you mislead by omitting." It's acceptable for space, of course, but I think the quote should be reproduced as accurately as possible. That is the original writer's rendering of what Beck said in response to a question. How Beck gave that response (with, it seems, lots of uhs and pauses) gives as much insight as his actual words, so in my opinion it is misleading to change it. Candy (talk) 17:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The section on Mutations and Midnite Vultures

The last paragraph of this section is kind of a grab bag about B-sides and other miscellaneous recordings. However, the songs mentioned were not released just in the Mutations/Midnite Vultures era (1998-2000); one, "Deadweight", is from 1997, and others are from later. I'm thinking this paragraph doesn't exactly fit in this section, but I'm not sure it should have its own section. Any opinions? Candy (talk) 21:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAN on hold

Version reviewed Gary King (talk) 17:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Lead needs cleanup/reorganisation...generally 3/4 paragraphs is good...look at other FAs/GAs etc.
  • "by that city's" - by the city's would work better, I think
  • "Beck traveled and educated himself" - travel anywhere in particular, teach himself anything in particular?
  • "This is also when he met" - reword...perhaps "During this time..."
  • Does ref 14 cover the entire paragraph? Seems under referenced at times...
  • "received praise-laden reviews in Rolling Stone and Spin magazines" - 2 refs needed
  • "Best Alternative Music Performance for Mutations" - check the Mutations link here...
  • "Later that year, in November of 1999" - you've already said 1999, fix this up
  • Beck EP and Sea Change - in this section, EP title neeeds italics
  • The image in the Guero and The Information section is REALLY wide...
  • Also, first para of that section needs more sourcing
  • "Also, a music video for "Gameboy/Homeboy" was made by Wyld File" - starting sentences with "also" burns...:D
  • wlink dates in Next studio album section
  • "He has been known to play many of the instruments in his music himself." - huh? He plays the instruments in his music? Duh moment...(or am I wrong?)
  • Might want to use {{cquote}} or something for the big scientology quote, and you need a ref for the NYtimes mention.

Any more referncing would be good...leave me a note when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 10:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Also, artists don't usually play instruments in their own music - they have other people do that for them, while they sing. Gary King (talk) 00:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
And I'm not usually that thick. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)