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[edit] Alberta general election, 2004

Thanks for linking the listing of my candidacy to my user page. I corrected the slight typo (there's no space in my user name, although once I noticed other users using spaces I wished I had done the same). GrantNeufeld 14:14, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kim Maltman

I'm curious why you added Kim Maltman to the list of Canadian mathematicians, especially since there are so few entries in that list. I don't think Kim would describe himself as a mathematician. He is a physicist who happens to be employed by the York department of mathematics. Hayne 05:20, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Gay or lesbian politicians

...is on CfD. I'd instinctively vote strong keep (possibly rename to include bi & trans) but would like to know, first, how you think it'd best be dealt with... Samaritan 20:25, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Alberta general elections

Federal elections - what was I thinking? My excuse is that I've never really figured out the whole categories thing. I plan to add articles on the rest of the elections today, and will use the category you've identified. Thanks for cleaning up after me. Kevintoronto 14:45, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian federal election, 2005

Hey, could you take a look over at the talk page, an edit you made basically did what I suggested some months ago. I wonder if we should change the wording to reflect when those alignments may occur? - Jord 19:02, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hehehe, I never do, that's why I pointed you to it, I assumed you hadn't! ;) - Jord 19:12, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jam 1575

I didn't speak up last time, it was deleted, then it was undeleted, is back pro forma, and I'm doing penance. Samaritan 06:47, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Discontinuous Due South?

Oddly, the dab page calls them "two Canadian television series presented in one format in the United States," while the only real difference by which they might be listed as two series was that they were on CBS, then syndication, in the States (and it possibly switched telecasters elsewhere at this point, of course.)

TV North: Everything You Wanted to Know About Canadian Television (a nifty $2 find at a Coles recently) lists it as one series, first broadcast April 23, 1994 at 9p with the movie, first regular broadcast Saturday September 22 at 9p, last broadcast 1998.

I guess they could very well have been nominally separate series for purposes, say, of union scale - the "first," as a bigger-budget US network production, paying better, the second less so. Even if this were true, I don't think this is good reason to split the series into two articles. Samaritan 08:08, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] but what to do about...

Blue Tory (and common sense conservative)? The former reads like something derived from high school lecture notes, a much-less-bad vector of what used to stand at Canadian Conservatives before I redirected it to the CPC. (I resolved to save the Neoconservatism section, but ended up with nothing useful, so I wrote up Neoconservativism (Canada) from scratch.) The latter should be moved to common sense conservatism and/or merged with Common Sense Revolution. It would need work, though. (Reagan was much more ideologically rigid than Thatcher? This movement "spread" from the Anglosphere to evangelical Christian communities? And for Latin America, don't they mean Catholic?) Thoughts? Samaritan 05:23, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About that magazine in List of Toronto Media Outlet thing

Should Xtra be listed again along with all other previously mentioned magazines down where magazines is? Or should they be moved down. People looking for the magazine only could miss their listing in the Alternative section. Should it be listed in Alternative anymore than the women's magazine? Just want some conference so there won't be an revert war cause I am so tired of those. - Arsha Nos Mondelle

[edit] Help with vandalization

List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the September 11, 2001 attacks has been repetiately vandalized in the last few days. On top of that, one user is constantly adding in information that we have not agreed apon on the talk page and refuses to discuss it. I'm suggesting having the page protected. -- [[User:LGagnon|LGagnon]] 05:38, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Taking out "GLBT people" category

I appreciate what you're doing by adding people to subcategories within the overall GLBT schema, but I don't understand why you're removing the "GLBT people" (or whatever the precise name for that category is) list in the process. It doesn't have to be an either/or thing. I think there's great value in having one generic GLBT category that people can peruse without having to go into a subcategory list. Once you eliminate that category, we won't be able to put the full list back together again. I don't understand why people can't be in both categories simultaneously, i.e., Gay writers and GLBT people. Moncrief 11:33, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Agree with Moncrief. GLBT people could be retained. Additional, is there a consistent naming convention you're using? You added Andrew Tobias to the category "Gay writers" but another category you used was "LGBT rights activists" (which becomes confusing in its own right because LGBT rights activisits need not be LGBT - see Judy Garland in that cateory). Autiger 00:17, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'd also agree. Having an overall category for GLBT people is a valuable research tool. Jonathunder 03:36, 2005 Jan 23 (UTC)

Appreciate the explanation. I had wondered if 'Lesbian writers' was a category too. I was just concerned about the consistency of naming for someone trying to find similar categories. Also, one could reasonable have 'Gay musicians' and 'Lesbian musicians' because "womyn's music" seems to be a fairly distinct genre. GLBT naming is just a difficult subject area, period. Autiger 07:32, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your queer-related edits. You are a great dude!--Sonjaaa 09:13, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Neoliberalism in Canada

Hello, I noticed your work with Samaritan on the Neoconservatism (Canada) article and I wanted to ask you a question about the difference between Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism in Canada. I've posed this question to Samaritan as well but he hasn't responded yet.

With what parameters do you seperate Neoconservative policies from Neoliberal policies in Canada? I ask because the two systems seem to share most economic beliefs such as increased free trade and reduced government spending. If Neoconservatism differs because of values including a much more self-interested, realist approach to international relations and a tendency towards social conservatism, would for example the governments of Chrétien and Martin be better mentioned in a seperate paragraph or article about Neoliberalism in Canada? This would assist in contrasting them with the policies of for example Harper and Klein. Thanks, Kurieeto 16:46, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bernie Hansen

...seems to be the Jack Layton of Chicago ward bosses, noted for his environmentalism and human rights advocacy. Support his non-deletion? Samaritan 18:33, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/St. Thomas University Students' Union

You made a really valid point there, and that's sort of what I was trying to get across. I was also trying to say the precent was already set. However, they don't seem to listen. I apologize for putting up St. Thomas Tommies on VfD, I was trying to make a point in regards to the SU VfD, although I suspect it's gone unnoticed. --Spinboy 19:28, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

FYI Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Glasgow University Union --Spinboy 06:01, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Two South

Maybe they're using a British source that uses "series" for what North Americans call "season", and reading in the North American definition? Besides the clever but probably too obscure union explanation, that's the best I can figure. The meme was probably also motivated, at some point, by the idea that the franchise declined such that it was also rhetorically a different series. So here's an idea! Let's go to Star Trek or The Simpsons and start making similar claims. We'd probably find support. But Wikipedia is not jumptheshark.com... :) Samaritan 07:14, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Channel m

... and the Guardian, who owns it. Fascinating – and I could see a cosmic tradeoff, whereby Torstar's local stations, if they'd been licensed, would have ended up broadcasting mostly ITV shows... Samaritan 06:36, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brain worker

Bearcat, did you delete Brain worker on any particular basis? It was listed on Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English as probably written in Estonian. That shouldn't be a candidate for speedy delete, unless you read that language and know it qualified as a speedy... -- Jmabel | Talk 07:35, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, yes, that seems about right. Couldn't tell that from the deletion comment, which just quoted the text, I thought someone was saying it was literally gibberish; we've nearly lost a few good articles that way. Again, sorry. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:49, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Gay Template: sounds like a b-movie...

Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Gay. Samaritan 14:57, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Template:LGBT is clearly superior. It is missing History of sexuality and Sexual minority cultures, the LGBT equivalent of List of gay-rights organizations, and perhaps gender. Hyacinth 20:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] James Albert Manning Aikens

In fairness to yourself, you *did* manage to get the Bob Wood situation right the first time. 1 out of 2 successful navigations of a bewildering disambiguation knot probably isn't too bad ...

(I wonder if I should tell Earl that I called the page "Bob Wood (Ontario provincial politician}" for a reason ...) CJCurrie 02:16, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Did you know has been updated
and a fact from the article Gwethalyn Graham, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

Good job... sounds daring for the 1940s. 68.81.231.127 18:25, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for tech tip

Thanks for the tech tip on using a colon to link to a category instead of assigning the category. GrantNeufeld 18:37, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Universities and colleges

I didn't realize the typo until 2 seconds before I got your message. I won't go chaging your edit. --Spinboy 03:28, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for pointing out the improper category in Alice Robitaille. I will start the lengthy job of correcting these to be musicians etc. from their country only in accordance with Wikipedia policy. JillandJack 15:57, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia needs an LGBT-related notice board

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths Samaritan 14:22, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wah. If I'd known Reflections Cabaret was clearly nn, I wouldn't have bothered cleaning it up... (You sure the long-running Coast reader poll title doesn't suggest at least enough local notoriety to get through?) Samaritan 18:44, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sigh, and now Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gay skinheads. Samaritan 16:35, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Bearcat. I encourage you to visit Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 May 7. Wikipedia really needs a GLBT noticeboard for stuff like this. Jonathunder 04:05, 2005 May 8 (UTC)

Inspired by Jonathunder's idea, I have created a LGBT noticeboard. Please take a look. -- Samuel Wantman 07:05, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

First, thank you for fixing the mayor/reeve entries. I wasn't initially aware that there was any particular Wikipedia policy re: the capitalization of these terms. I've started using lower-case letters for both in recent weeks, and could very easily make further changes along these lines myself.

I wonder, however, if some your other alterations might be inappropriate.

I notice that you switched "Minister of Correctional Services" to "minister of correctional services", for instance. A google-search for the term indicates several instances of the ministerial title being spelled with upper-case letters, as opposed to only a few with lower-case letters.

A search for "became Premier" indicates that both lower and upper-case spellings are in common usage, when the term is used in this manner.

Is there a specific policy (or code of literary etiquette) you could point me to that would require lower-case spellings in these latter instances? CJCurrie 23:39, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: St. Thomas Tommies

Good evening, Bearcat. I do understand your argument for consistency. Unfortunately, I don't think the rest of the community is as convinced as you are that consistency is an absolute requirement for Wikipedia. Personally, I am very comfortable making these decisions on a case-by-case basis and with reversing those decisions as the situation changes. In this example, I would be ready to reconsider the "merge" decision when I saw that enough encyclopedic material had been added that a break-out article now made the most sense.

If that admittedly loosey-goosey approach continues to bother you, perhaps you might want to use this as an example and pose the question at the Village Pump asking how much consistency we should strive for.

The other way to gain consistency is to begin merging them yourself. Unlike deletions, merges do not destroy history and therefore do not generally need to be discussed at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (though the controversial mergers are usually discussed beforehand on the relevant Talk pages). Good luck.

By the way, thank you for helping to keep the discussions civil on the VfD page. Rossami (talk) 23:40, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Capitalization

Bearcat: I just noticed that you received the "Tommies" post only one minute after my own. In case you accidentally passed over it, I'm still soliciting some feedback re: general capitalization policy and practice. CJCurrie 01:59, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • For what it's worth, Hansard appears to use the "capitalization on all occasions" approach for ministerial titles. As far as expressions like "asked the P/premier" go, I've encountered both usages in professional/legitimate contexts. In fact, here's a clip from today's Globe & Mail:
  • And she questioned the orchestrated press event at police headquarters, in which the Premier --wireless microphone in hand -- and Chief Fantino walked down a set of stairs to the applause of several dozen officers.
  • I'll use discretion in the future, though I suspect that both usages should be considered acceptable for Wikipedia. CJCurrie 03:01, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Perhaps the increased usage of "capitalization on all occasions" is indicative of a gradual shift in "acceptable usage" on this front. (It might be interesting to examine some of the 19C documents that I have access to, seeing if capitalization was commonly used in this period.)

In any event, this isn't something for which I'm inclined to invest *too* much emotional capital ... CJCurrie 03:50, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Vfd

Hi, Can you add Template:Vfd to your watchlist if you haven't already done so? Some anon IP likes to vandalize it by changing "blank" to "bugger". A hassle because it gets subst'd in. I'm sending notes to get more people to add it to their watchlists. -- Curps 19:56, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV & Other Such Notices

In response to your question:

  • The intent of the notice is not for the person placing it to make the changes. Were that the case, then there would be no need for such a notice. Putting the onus to repair on the person who discovers it is burdensome and will only allow NPOV and other improper input to remain and possibly be misused by an innocent researcher. The NPOV and other such notices are extremely important and exist so that visitors to Wikipedia who come across and recognize either NPOV, biased, misinformed, deliberately misleading and other such undesirable articles, won't leave thinking Wikipedia has no credibility. The NPOV notice serves several important purposes: a) a warning to viewers not to rely on this article's content at this time; b) it tells people Wikipedia is fully aware of the problem in the article and will be fixing it; c) that Wikipedia in fact does have the mechanisms in place to deal with NPOV, etc.; d) it tells those who have been or intend to create deliberate NPOV, biased, etc. articles that they are wasting their time and it will be caught and rectified; and e) it tells good contributors who care about Wikipedia that the article needs work. A close friend of Jill is an editor at a major Toronto newspaper, and when Jill said we were enjoying Wikipedia the editor dismmissed Wikipedia out of hand, citing certain articles, including several on Quebec subjects. Those who created the NPOV template obviously wanted to overcome this perception and criticism. For Wikipedia to have credibility, such notices are absolutely essential and I am sure those here at Wikipedia who created the templates may well have had other good reasons far beyond our ability to comprehend. JillandJack 05:16, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


User:Bearcat replied:

  • 1) But the "Be Bold" rule applies just as much as the POV tags.

Afraid I don't understand this remark.

  • 2)I can easily see a distinction between "POV that a user should tag" (ie. "recognizes the bias issue, but doesn't know enough about the subject to fix it personally") and "POV that a user should just go ahead and fix themselves" (ie. "knows the subject".) There's no special onus on anybody to do anything, except that which applies to us all. Bearcat 05:22, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Why should any person be obliged to fix POV? As I said, with that type of onus, people won't bother. The result then is that articles sit unmarked and are open to the kind of criticism for lack of credibility that has already been harshly levelled at Wikipedia by Brittanica and others. We have no interest in all this Quebec political stuff but a great deal of it is not just NPOV, but a complete embarrassment that in many cases is offensive. Thanks for your concern. Keep up the good work. JillandJack 05:34, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


As to your comment on the Quebec politicians category, it is simply a matter of following whatever established policy exists at Wikipedia. JillandJack 05:23, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

User Bearcat said: Wikipedia doesn't have a policy against subcategories for particular provinces or states.

Yes, it does for the most part except for a few odds and ends like the New York city ones. When it comes to the provinces/states, writers, sportspersons, etc. are all by "American" and the State is limited to "People fpom" - which makes sense because there are, in our opinion for what little its worth, too many categories already. Somehow, someone here set up Quebec as though it were a country which of course it is not. I note that one of that ilk went around deleting "Canada" from Maurice Richard and others as place of birth. This is nothing more than racism and an insult to Wikipedia and to all honourable people with legitimate different political views. Thanks and good night. JillandJack 05:45, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As I said, there are a few odds and ends where States have improper categories but they will eventually be cleaned up before it gets out of hand. Bed time for me. JillandJack 06:08, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Suggestion

It might be an idea to place this on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection - I'm confused about what is POV about the article and no little or nothing about Quebec's independence movement, other than there is one :-) Ta bu shi da yu 10:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Government watchdog groups

Hi Bearcat, thanks for your question regarding the inclusion of the CCLA and CTF in Category:Government watchdog groups in Canada. I originally created those two articles without listing them in Category:Political advocacy groups in Canada, because I felt that would imply partisanship on behalf of the two organizations.

Because the American Civil Liberties Union was included in the Category:Government watchdog groups in the U.S., I felt that there was enough of a precedent to warrant the creation of such a Category for Canada, and that the Canadian Civil Liberties Association would therefore belong there. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation was a slightly harder decision, but to my limited knowledge they are generally non-partisan and are most often addressed in the media as a government watchdog organization, so I included them there too.

I agree that the distinction between Government watchdog group and Political advocacy group needs to be clearer. Please take a look at the description given on the Category for Government watchdog groups in the U.S., I'd be interested in your comments on it. If it is acceptable and clear then we can copy it over to the Canadian category with some minor edits. Thanks, Kurieeto 18:06, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] JillandJack

I do have a thought about JillandJack in general, but it may be difficult to prove - give me a couple of days :) Adam Bishop 19:25, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, it didn't take as long to contact the right people as I thought it would - I don't remember if you were around back then, but do you remember DW/BlackWidow/Joe Canuck/Angelique or whatever other names that guy used? (See User:DW.) Well it seems likely that JillandJack is another incarnation. We'll see what JandJ have to say about that. Adam Bishop 20:21, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Oh, I never saw that Suzanne Tremblay thing this time...that's a dead giveaway. Adam Bishop 20:36, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
JillandJack has been blocked now, though they claim not to be Angelique. If you know anyone else who was involved in these disputes this time, can you let them know? I know some of them but I wasn't as involved as I was last time. Adam Bishop 00:17, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this. Whoever this person or persons was, they were extraordinarily confrontational. -- Curps 01:38, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mercredi

Thanks very much for your help with the Ovide Mercredi article. All problems have now been fixed as I was also able to get the "What links here" issue corrected by removing the link to him from the Assembly of First Nations article, and then putting it back. Thanks again! Kurieeto 21:02, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection

Yeah that might be a good idea. I don't think I should do it either though...try Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Adam Bishop 22:54, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oirvine

We'll have to ask a developer to do that. I'll see if I can find one. Adam Bishop 00:28, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Actually, this is not a good time to ask developers to do anything, since they are busy fixing the servers...but I think it's safe to assume it's JandJ. Is there an IP address in the e-mail they sent you? If it originates from Sudbury or Elliott Lake they are definitely the same person. Adam Bishop 00:50, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Only developers can review IPs and other technical evidence. And only arbitrators can formally ask developers for assistance here, not ordinary admins. Probably developers only have the time to investigate such requests on a very occasional basis, and not routinely. Given that the evidence against Oirvine is limited, I'd say you should probably unblock him. If he's a reincarnation, his editing style and interaction with others will soon show it. -- Curps 00:58, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, this is pretty sparse evidence - we don't really know why they reinserted the text on that article (maybe they thought it was being vandalized, who knows). Besides, even if it is the same person, at least they make a bunch of good edits for awhile before going nuts :) Adam Bishop 01:10, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Nova Scotia MHAs

Hi Bearcat, I thought I should mention to you that I'm quite confident that the category name you created "Nova Scotia MHAs" is incorrect. Nova Scotia has never used the MHA title. Instead MLA would be the more appropriate one. if there is no protest I was going to rename it. Cheers! PullUpYourSocks 20:23, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)


[edit] A new look at Italian-Canadian heritage: deleting the category

Ciao Bearcat. The Italian-Canadians, over 1.270.000 strong, have a profound impact on Canadian life. They vote overwhelmingly for Italian-Canadian politicians, most of them born in Italy. Make your arguments unbeatable. I'm eager to learn. stefanomione 0:46, 2005/03/05.

[edit] Chicago aldermen

Hi there! Since the discussion seemed finished, I've closed up the Wikipedia:Deletion_policy/Local_politicians discussion for now. I believe consensus has been established that local politicians deserve mention in Wikipedia, but not in a separate article UNLESS they have done something exceptional. Would you please check if you find this a reasonable conclusion, and leave a short note on that page's talk page? Thanks.

Also if you have a lot of spare time you may want to consider helping with the merging proposed in that discussion.

Yours, Radiant! 10:11, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] PrideVision/OUTtv/etc.

I don't know either. I was trying to find a website for the TV station you mentioned, and I ended up at PrideVision's site, and the only new station they mention is OUTtv. Theory: Maybe OUTtv is taking over PrideVision's license, and PrideVision is taking on a new name, 617? --Spinboy 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Like I said, OUTtv is taking over PV's license, and PrideVision/617/HARD on PrideVISION is taking this new license. --Spinboy 00:46, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I always thought name changed required approval from the CRTC. Also you might want to unwickify William Craig, as it leads to the wrong man. In any case, at least we sorta know what's going on. No offense taken. --Spinboy 01:00, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Great job on William Craig (broadcaster). Do we have a website for him? --Spinboy 01:33, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Toronto Computer Leasing Inquiry

Good job on this article, I really enjoyed reading it. CryptoDerk 09:11, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging

Hi Bearcat,

Don't forget to tag images with the license they are currently under. It is important to tag images you have uploaded because those that don't contain copyright information may be deleted. You can view the list of tags avaliable at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. For example, if it's an CD Cover, tag it with {{albumcover}} on the image namespace. Happy editing! :)

- Mailer Diablo 02:51, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A. L. Rowse

Hi: Thanks for sharpening the categories for A. L. Rowse. I notice that you changed his name to "Rowse, Alfred" for all the categories. This is more likely to confuse than clarify because, as far as I know, no-one (except biographers and the civil authorities) knows him by that name. He always wrote as "A. L. Rowse" and was known informally as "ALR". Are you happy for me to change his categorised name to "Rowse, A. L." --Theo (Talk) 14:21, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)?

Hi: Thanks for the explantation. I will ponder the implications of all this before making any changes. --Theo (Talk) 19:35, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And after suitable contemplation I have moved the article to A. L. Rowse and bypassed the double redirects. --Theo (Talk) 20:57, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfD

The reason that entry hadn't been deleted was that policy is to let entries sit a week before deleting them (unless they are one of the speedy exceptions). So the week was up today, and since I'm just now getting to the page (I generally do the archiving on WP:AN, WP:AN/I, etc first) that's why it wasn't done yet. You'll notice that nothing older than a week (excepting a few problematic entries) was there. Noel (talk) 13:44, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright tags

Thanks for uploading Image:Neont.PNG. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Tagishsimon (talk) 00:15, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk)

[edit] Matthew Good

Hi Bearcat - I'm not sure if you're a regular reader of Matthew Good's blog, but in part of his latest post he requested that the creator of the Wikipedia article about him, you, contact him. See the third paragraph from the bottom of his latest post, titled "Right Wing Revolutionaries Welcome". Wanted to tell you, Kurieeto 01:50, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Haha, enjoy your newfound fame. =) Just remember us little people while you schmooze with the Canadian elite and intelligentsia! Kurieeto 14:21, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Centront.PNG

How would you feel about changing: Hastings and Prince Edward: red to green; considered much more East than Central Bruce and Gray: white to green; often considered Central Ontario (For a fairly canonical example, the websites of Osprey newspapers in Owen Sound, Hanover,Collingwood, Midland, Barrie and Orillia all carry a section of "Central Ontario Headlines" with headlines from each of the other newspapers)

Samaritan 20:50, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Torontian streets

Hi there! Glad to have your opinion on the Torontian streets. I believe we shouldn't set precedent for a large amount of street articles per city (I mean, anyone can add a dozen stubs on streets in his home town, clearly that's not very helpful). I would like your opinion on this proposal:

  1. Any street that is only notable because of a landmark (or building or whatever), should be merged with that landmark.
  2. Any street that is really really famous (think Broadway level) should get its own article
  3. Other major streets should be merged into a List of important streets in Toronto or some similar title; I believe all information on a major street could be summarized in five or six lines, so a list of them would allow for easier organization and lookup-ability.
  4. Anything that's not a major street should be deleted.
  5. Any picture of streets that's non-specific (i.e. just some streetlamps and cars) should also be deleted.
If this is a lot of work, I'd be happy to help. Yours, Radiant_* 19:58, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Liam Lynch, Las Ketchup and Our Lady Peace

Take a look at zero-hit wonder... Samaritan 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD

You may want to express your opinion about Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Grant Neufeld. Regards, Kevintoronto 15:33, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Are you interested in being a Bureaucrat?

Hi, I am considering nominating you to become a Bureaucrat. The role would involve giving administrator or bureaucrat access to other users following consensus on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Although there are currently 18 bureaucrats, it may be helpful to have a few more. If you would accept a nomination, please let me know. Kingturtle 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

I am trying to bring this article up to featured standard, and in looking at the article's history, I noticed that you added a substantial amount of info to it. I assume you got that info from one or more external websites, and if that is the case, could you tell me what those websites were, so I can cite them properly? Denelson83 22:15, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Here are some diffs to help you out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=7083491&oldid=7013356
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=3351303&oldid=3345756
- Denelson83 06:45, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
    • BTW, here's some full disclosure for you. Nelson Media is my own website. Denelson83 07:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Patricia Rozema

You added the Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people tag to the article on Patricia Rozema. While her film When Night Is Falling has bi-sexual and lesbian characters in positive lead roles, Rozema herself (to the best of my knowledge) is hetero. Do you know of a reference somewhere to her orientation? Thanks, GrantNeufeld 09:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Virgil Fox

You added the GLBT category to Virgil Fox; what's the reason for this? Its the first time I've heard such a notion about him. Dewet 06:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer; I can believe that people will want to "smooth over" these kinds of details in biographies, but I found an article on his website that contains that snippet from the Koymasky's website ([1]). Thanks, I would otherwise not have known. Dewet 10:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] (hanging chad joke here)

Hey, you might want to change your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Small penis humiliation now that the proposal to merge/redirect to erotic humiliation is afoot... Samaritan 18:01, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The letter ø

I noticed a change in the article Ådne Søndrål with the comment: category sort -- it doesn't file ø as o, but as a separate letter that follows z, which made me go: Huh? The letter ø is a different letter entirely than o, and yes, it does come after z in the alphabet. Havardk 22:50, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CBVE

So how are you going to distinguish between CBVE-TV and CBVE-FM? 121a0012 16:48, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About More tears

Hello from France ! Working on Otto e mezzo, an italian film from Fellini (Oscar for best foreign film in 1964), I have found a remake done in Canada : More Tears, by Ken Finkleman. I show you the place : http://cine.voila.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=337.html
I hope you can read french !
As I have seen you are quite the only one who wrote about More Tears and as you are better than me in english, I leave you the information for updating. Here is the page of the french text for the orginal film : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huit_et_demi
Please, excuse my english... friendly congratulations, Henrysalome 15:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About the Coyne clan

Hi, do you have a source for the claim that Andrew Coyne and Deborah Coyne are brother and sister? This CBC article: [2] claims they are cousins.

A Google search on them turns up several sites which claim they are siblings, but I couldn't find any one that looked reputable (indeed many of them seemed to be redistributed copies of the Wikipedia articles). I've changed the articles to state they are cousins, but in the off chance that CBC is wrong, it would be good to clear this up. --Saforrest 00:03, May 18, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Ibbitson

Thanks for cleaning up my article. I'm rather new at this wiki thing, so any help is greatly appreciated. You did a really nice job polishing it.

[edit] Categories coming and going

You seem to have removed categories only to add them again in a bunch of articles that I have on my watchlist. I am curious: What are you up to? Rl 16:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

A-ha! Thanks for the explanation. Check out bug 2166, I believe that's the one. Rl 06:55, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Update: It's been fixed. Category pages that are wrong don't get updated automatically, though. You can force an update by saving the article with the cat sort key again (i.e. no change), it will get sorted correctly into the category page, and the edit won't show up in the revision history. Rl 13:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] National Party of Canada

Can I pick your brains for a moment -- do you remember what colours this party used in the 1993 election? SimonP have different recollections of this. See Talk:National Party of Canada. Ground Zero 15:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Great Alexander Wood article

Beautiful and timely article, Bearcat darling, thank you, from Halifax.

I'm the main editor of the big Halifax queer current and historical wikipedia, http://gay.hfxns.org/

If you're planning a trip to Halifax, drop me a line, let's talk queer history. -dan

[edit] [[Category:Assessible transit services]]

As opposed, presumably to unassessible, which means, ... "worthless"? I assume you meant [[Category:Accessible transit services]], which I assume is the opposite of inaccessible transit services, which I imagine means something like teleporters, stargates and the like. :-/ I've got some leftover tylenol #3 from when I got my wisdom teeth pulled...but after some of the stuff I've been seeing lately on WP, I think I'd prolly better keep it... Tomer TALK 12:34, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

  • Admin powers!? no! you're part of the supersecret wikicabal!??? :-p Tomer TALK 21:23, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stop removing T-people from articles

Would you kindly stop replacing the LGBT cat with this "sexual orientiation and identity" cat - that is removing T-people from the articles? Because, as you should know, transgender is neither a sexual orientation nor a sexual identity, and that means you are removing a whole group of people from the articles, which is extremely rude. Even more rude is the fact that at least nowhere where I found it you even bothered to debate those widespread changes you are trying to push through. -- AlexR 10:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What's hurting you? Getting caught with thoughtlessness? Bad luck, think first next time. You removed cat:LGBT several times and replaced it with the trans-exclusive "sexual orientation and identity", so what do you expect? And you are "singlehandedly" responsible for the inclusion of T in cats? Sure, except you nobody would have been able to think about it. Shall I fall on my knees now and thank you? Probably not. I strongly recomment you a) think about what you are doing next time, and b) annouce it if there is a chance of it being controversial, even if policy does not demand it in your view - you know, there are things beyond policy. -- AlexR 17:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Even if the cat has this description, that is no reason to use it that way - a simple check of sexual identity would have told you of the inappropriatness of this cat for clearly trans-related articles. Somebody who claims that they are "singlehandedly" responsible for inserting the T into cats really, really ought to know that. -- AlexR 19:56, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:ON-FedRep

This template is much too large and would work much better as a category. - SimonP 03:18, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

I guess that will have to be done then. These templates are in pretty clear violation of the new Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes. We have enough work getting rid of old non-compliant templates without creating new ones. - SimonP 03:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
I fully support reorganizaing the cats along those lines, but it would be a lot of work. - SimonP 03:30, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

Hi Bearcat - everyone here is very appreciative of your extensive efforts, especially on Canada related articles. However, since you and I seem to have hundreds of pages in common on our respective watchpages, I do have one request.... could I persuade you to make more use of edit summaries? Although I don't think I've ever reverted one of your changes, it would make life easier for me, since when there is no edit summary I feel compelled to check out the changes, even if it is from a trusted editor... Best Regards, Fawcett5 13:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Brunswick departments

Thanks for your work in changing the names of the New Brunswick departments I had been creating. I didn't realized the nomenclature I was using was off of the standard, I'll adjust in the future articles I created and go through and change all of the links in the articles to the correct format. - Jord 15:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Andrea Menard categorizing

I'm not sure if I agree with taking her out of the First Nations category. Although she is Metis she is often also associated with the aboriginal community as well, to the extent that she won an aboriginal music award awhile back, and one of her best known songs, "Halfbreed Blues" has her trying to reconcile both sides of her heritage. Can we not list her in both, or is that considered a no-no? (I ask that despite the fact that being born and raised in Saskatchewan I should know this already!) ;-) 23skidoo 03:19, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Album genre categories

Thanks for your edits to hip hop albums. Tim Ivorson 08:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Melissa McEntyre

Hi Bearcat. This is my first entry in about two weeks, as I was on my thrid detox for that long. It didnt work as well, actually, my blood pressure ran up to 166 and right now Im recovering from THAT as well. This week Im going to my family doctor to discuss that matter.

That said, the reason that I put Melissa McEntyre among Canadian people is , that she is Canadian, so shes a Canadian people, and also, when you look at Puerto Rican people or Mexican people for example, individuals are in those categories' pages. But there is no protocol rule as to that so I guess my better judgement would be to leave Melissa McIntyre the way it is now and evade a revert war furthermore.

That said, Im always drawn by gothic wearing girls, Fairuza Balk is my platonic love! So even through I know that Melissa plays a character in the show, I still kinda get attracted by her even through I know its just a character. Thank God Fairuza is the real deal. She has been into wiccan before she filmed The Craft. And she dated Marilyn Manson, so that tells you a lot!!

Thnaks for everything, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio three strike felony Martin

[edit] A Lesbian Sandro Botticelli?

Could you add some detail on Sandro Botticelli's classification, which you added? --Wetman 20:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD

Could someone who has not already participated in the debate please take a look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Elizabeth II of Canada and determine whether or not there's a consensus. As far as I can determine, according to the consensus guideline at Wikipedia:Consensus the criteria has been met since there's a 2/3 majority to merge/redirect but since I've proposed the VfD in the first place it's apparently seen as objectionable by some for me to declare the now week old VfD closed and implement a redirect (the merge has already been done). AndyL 21:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hand on the Torch

OK! No problem. Actually, i can't wait it i hear Us3's new album! Project2501a 23:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Molto grazie for fixing my mistake. That's good to know. Happy Pride Week. Ground Zero 01:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bearcat, curious why you don't think Mermaid Avenue is a folk album. With an entire album based on the lyrics of Woody Guthrie, isn't that justification enough? Thoughts? -- Dave C. 04:43, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Fair enough; works for me. Thanks. -- Dave C. 04:54, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of Joel Bakan article

Bearcat, did you personally create the text in the intial entry for Joel Bakan? The text i mean is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Bakan&oldid=13459484 The reason i ask is because the middle paragraph is so nearly identical to http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1538175/bio - the bio info for Bakan at IMDB. It seems to me that wikipedia or imdb has a problem, unless you're the original author of both, bearcat.

If our copy needs to be removed, i will re-write this article with my own orignal words. Fudoreaper June 28, 2005 19:01 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Metropolitan areas of Canada

That looks good; thanks for implementing it. Mindmatrix 30 June 2005 11:42 (UTC)

[edit] Wilson

I have to admit I have totally zero interest in the subject of that article, was just RC Patrolling. It was also 3 months ago...

But: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Lamborn_Wilson&diff=13385385&oldid=12751528 was my edit. I reverted a lot more than a category change, an anon user cut out content. Didn't even see the changes to the cats, tbh. I know how the piping works on cats, though... --Kiand 1 July 2005 17:32 (UTC)

[edit] Highway 61

Yes, I agree. However, I merged the pages because they were exactly the same. -- Earl Andrew - talk 1 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)

I distinctavely remember merging 2 exact pages. But anyways...

P.S. - do you know anything about this watchlist bug? I seem to have been affected by it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 1 July 2005 19:05 (UTC)


[edit] Go Transit stations

Thanks for creating the new cat, and re-catting all the station articles. I've been meaning to do it, but kept putting it off; I was pleasantly surprised to find someone had done it already!

Curiously though, none of the station articles that were modified showed up in my watchlist. Mindmatrix 2 July 2005 17:46 (UTC)

[edit] Premier of Ontario

Hi, thought I would let you that I removed a sentence you had added about the office of premier being created in 1867. I know where you are coming from, but I think it best to leave this out. What was created in 1867 was a federation with four provinces, each province with a legislature and a lieutenant governor. There is no mention of the office of premier in the BNA Act because the legislature and lieutenant governor operate in accordance with the conventions of the Westminster system. I presume that it was up to the Ontario legislature to pass an Executive Council Act but I would have to go back to the Ontario statutes of 1867-68 to determine that. It would be appropriate to mention in the article when and if such an act was passed by the legislature, but even in the absence of such an act, the mere fact of having a legislature meant under the Westminster system that an executive council could be formed by the lieutenant governor and he could name a president, and this president could call himself whatever he wished. I strongly disagree that the office of premier replaced that of the PM of the Province of Canada (a unitary state responsible for Canada East and West, not just modern Ontario, and with responsibilties for ALL matters, not just provincial matters later assigned to provinces such as Ontario, Quebec, NS, NB). Better to think of Canada and Ontario as new creations with new responsibilities. Prior to 1867 I tend to refer to modern Canada as the British North American colonies or British North America, as this is broad enough to include Newfoundland, PEI, and BC.--BrentS 4 July 2005 01:28 (UTC)

[edit] Mashlist

Howdy Bearcat - newbie here with a question - is the Mash list a wiki template or something you came up with on your own? I want to use it, but figured I'd try not to be an asshat and steal without asking. Thanks! NickBurns 6 July 2005 02:22 (UTC)

PS - thanks for the reply on my talkpage! And the compliment. I like yer list, too. NickBurns 23:41, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Let's build a great Canada!"

Boy was I surprised to find there was already an article on Jimmy MacDonald's Canada. Good job, BC! Ground Zero 7 July 2005 14:23 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

As I have just received one of these, I feel compelled to give it to someone myself. So, here's one for ya, Mr. Bearcat! -- Earl Andrew - talk 8 July 2005 21:10 (UTC)

(Actual barnstar moved to my main userpage. Gotta advertise!) Bearcat 06:19, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A. Lafontaine

I know, we were discussing this a few days ago on my talk page (User talk:Adam Bishop#User:A. Lafontaine). I brought it up on the Administrator's Noticeboard but there didn't seem to be much discussion there...if he's starting to go back to his old ways, I guess he can just be blocked again. Adam Bishop 22:04, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Georgian Bay

I chuckled at your edit summary about the description of the location of Georgian Bay. It does seem waaaaay to far southeast of SSM. However, if you check your map, you will see that the North Channel of G'Bay extends almost to Sault Ste Marie. Being correct doesn't make it the best description, however. "South of Sudbury" isn't great either, but it may be the best we can do when confronted with the realities of the sparse population in that part of N. Ontario. Sunray 22:22, July 9, 2005 (UTC)

In a way it is somewhat academic, since Georgian Bay is a bay of Lake Huron. Nevertheless, the North Channel is commonly referred to as "the North Channel of Georgian Bay" as a Google search of those terms (in quotes) will reveal. Here's some evidence:

  • The Mission of the Georgian Bay Land Trust: to preserve the unique archipelago and its adjacent water bodies which lie along the eastern shore and North Channel of Georgian Bay that are of ecological, geological and historical importance, and to promote the appreciation of this special area.[3]
  • Other websites: [4], [5], [6] Sunray 00:00, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Progressive Bloggers

Bearcat, I've put in an entry on the Canadian blogosphere group (which includes Matthew Good) the Progressive Bloggers. Please let me know what you think.--Simon.Pole 02:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Canadian gay politicians

Why not make it a subcategory instead of killing it? It sure seems like we have enough of them :) But seriously, one thing I'm running into is that the authors of articles tend to add Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people (which at 700 articles is full to bursting and no longer useful) to their article as well as a more specific category, just because they want one of the words "Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual" instead of the sterile LGBT FLA. I've been working on subcategorizing Category:LGBT musicians and am getting set to start on Category:LGBT athletes in an attempt to minimize the load on the parent queer group. Later -- Cleduc 02:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Gotcha, too right -- not enough to justify the work, never mind. And I suppose recruitment of more politicians is out of scope for the project, but certainly warranted :D
Oh, and thanks for the warning... but in for a penny, in for a pound. Later -- Cleduc 03:19, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Defunct companies of Canada

Hi Bearcat, thanks for your message regarding moving companies solely to Category:Defunct companies of Canada. I agree with the way you've put it and won't remove further defunct companies from economic sector categories provided that sector category doesn't imply activity. Thanks for correcting my original mistake. Kurieeto 16:31, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian wikipedians' notice board rearrangement

Hello. We have been discussing rearrangement of the Canadian wikipedians' notice board. Since you created the page, I thought you might like to know or even comment. •Zhatt• 22:06, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Aboriginals

Hi Bearcat - What are your thoughts on the capitalization/non-capitalization of "Aboriginal"? When I use the term I've been capitalizing it as per suggested guidelines released by Indian and Northern Affairs Canada[7]. Kurieeto 16:37, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Good idea about checking the CP's style guide. I'll let you know what I find. Kurieeto 17:06, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Bearcat - The local library has copies of the "Canadian Oxford Dictionary, Official Dictionary of the Canadian Press" (427.971 CAN 2004), and "The Globe and Mail Style Book" (808.06607 MCF 2003). I tried to get a copy of the "CP stylebook : a guide for writers and editors" (808. 06607 CP 1995), but it's a circulating book and has been checked out by someone else.
In the Canadian Oxford Dictionary the entry of "Aboriginal" is capitalized, unlike "francophone", as you pointed out. This source does indicate that the term should not be capitalized when used as an adjective. So I guess an example would be: "APTN is an aboriginal television network" vs. "APTN is a television network that broadcasts programs produced by and for Aboriginal people in Canada". My understanding of the capitalization instructions would mean that your edit of Cooking With the Wolfman is correct, as it currently reads, "Cooking With the Wolfman is a cooking series first produced for the Aboriginal Peoples Television Network, an aboriginal television network in Canada."
The Globe and Mail's style guide does not have a specific entry for "Aboriginal". They do have one for "native people" though. The "native people" entry begins by saying, "Native people is the generally accepted term in Canada embracing the four categories of aboriginal or semi-aboriginal peoples: Inuit, Indians, non-status Indians, and Métis." The book goes on to use the term "native people" where we on Wikipedia are currently using "Aboriginal".
I like the Canadian Oxford Dictionary's instructions much more than I do the Globe's. In choosing between the preferred collective term of the federal government, Aboriginal, and the Globe, native people, I think we should do as the Government does, because they are a stronger source.
Please let me know what you think about the usage of the term in the two style guides. If we both agree that we should follow the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, as used by the Canadian Press, then I'll put a sentence or two into Aboriginal peoples in Canada and the Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Aboriginal peoples regarding capitalization/non-capitalization.
By the way, there's a discussion being held at Talk:First Nations of Canada#Renaming the article about renaming the article or keeping it where it is. First Nations, First Nations in Canada, and First Nations (Canada) have been suggested so far as alternative titles. I'd greatly value your thoughts on the matter if you have time to check it out. Thanks for suggesting to check stylebooks Bearcat, I'm very pleased we looked into this. Kurieeto 22:59, July 21, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Categorizing

I understand that the rule concerning categorizing pages that you brought up exists and abide by it 99% of the time. However, rules are meant to be interpreted, are they not. Cape Breton Island is indeed an island in Nova Scotia and therefore needs to be categorized as such. It is however very much also a cultural entity of huge importance to Nova Scotia and should appear on the Category:Nova Scotia page and not simply "buried" under Category:Islands of Nova Scotia subcategorized under Category:Geography of Nova Scotia. The whole point of categorizing is to provide ready referencing, is it not? The rule should and does apply in an important linear fashion from narrow to wide in nearly all cases (as a strict rule of thumb). The difficulty arises in the few cases where the page describes something that is not merely one kind of entity, doesn t it. Regards, Mayumashu 15:44, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Karla (film)

Thanks for changing the name of the movie. I had actually asked for help to change the movie title as I don't know how to change an article title on Wikipedia, what with redirects and the like. Anyway, I'm not completely incompetant. Thanks, Bearcat. --Yamla 16:39, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New pay TV applications

I see your point, and I'm not saying we should do them for every application for a TV station, radio station, specialty service, etc. because that would most certainly be overkill. But I think there would be a place in explaining the different applications, and their various (dis)advantages, for something of this magnitude where there could be room for controversy (as with Canadian Satellite Radio, for instance).

Worst case scenario, we redirect the unsuccessful ones afterwards to the licensed one (or some separate history-of-Canadian-pay-TV page) and explain what happened to all of them.

See also my comment on Thomson Corp. discussion page. Stickguy 03:49, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian Airlines

Sorry I wrote this quickly and I didn't have enough time to run a spell check

What I wanted to say was that their really is contraversy in Alberta over the demise of Canadian Airlines. Although it doesn't make it the news it certianlly is good bar talk here in Calgary....and I am a member the Liberal Party I also believe that if Canadian Airlines was based out of Montreal the government would have saved it. I think it's usefull to add this information to the page....

[edit] Les Oraliens

I noticed you changed the name of the mechanical dog character in that show, is it based on your memory or something else ? I'm not implying your wrong (I'm pretty much working from memory on that article) but from what I remember, you might have confused it with the name of another quebec show: Iniminimagimo. --Marc pasquin 21:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. I'll put the question in the talk page then. --Marc pasquin 22:05, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Quick question on Australian television categories

Hi Bearcat. I've noticed of late several entries being created for Australian people associated with television, but not for their on-screen appearances, such as the notable Murray Tregonning. It would be a miscategorisation to place Mr Tergonning for example into Category:Australian television presenters category as I don't think he's ever appeared on television to present anything as such to date, but is a major behind-the-scenes worker. This is my reasoning for the creation of Category:Australian television personalities. I trust this answers your question, however feel free to disuss further if my intentions are not clear. -- Longhair | Talk 02:00, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Simply - Thanks

Thanks Bearcat. Tres cool! Much appreciated. All the best. Joel Z

[edit] Regina, Saskatchewan

I have an issue with edits made by you and others in this article; my concerns are fully articulated on its talk page. Brithgob 03:58, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexuality in India

There is very little on the Internet or on Wikipedia about Homosexuality in non-Western cultures, including India. I was wondering if you would like to contribute towards creating a detailed article about Homosexuality in India, one that discusses historical, literary, cultural and religious attitudes towards homosexuality, as well as the current situation. I know for a fact that India has a significant LGBT community, though a lot of it is underground. I wrote the article Gay rights in India. Could you take a look at it and integrate it with a larger article on Homosexuality in India. --Notquiteauden 01:53, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Support for renaming Category:AIDS victims

[edit] Category AIDS Victims

This has survived its trip to Wikipedia:CFD. I would definitely support the change of name you advocated, though. I would suggest your putting it up for renaming rather than deletion; that focuses the issue better and might have a more favorable outcome. Courtland 12:55, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

clarifying ... i.e. don't provide the delete option in the nomination ... name change only. Courtland 12:57, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rename Category:AIDS victims

Hi Bearcat. I noticed that the CfD discussion on this category resulted in a decision of "No consensus(keep)". This seems unfortunate, because I think there was a consensus that "AIDS victims" is not a good name. So I'm thinking that it should be submitted as a rename. I think there could be two categories Category:People living with AIDS and Category:People who have died from AIDS. I'd like to hear your views, and your choices for names. I'm going to also post this at Wikipedia:LGBT notice board. -- Samuel Wantman 07:43, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Just noticed the similar comment above. -- Samuel Wantman 07:44, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikicool bonus points

For having been the original creator of Michaëlle Jean article over a year before her nomination as GG, you are hereby awarded Canadian Wikicool bonus points.
For having been the original creator of Michaëlle Jean article over a year before her nomination as GG, you are hereby awarded Canadian Wikicool bonus points.

Spend them wisely. Image:Smiley icon.png DoubleBlue (Talk) 19:44, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "victims" as POV word

For the past 20+ years that AIDS has been on the public radar, the PWA community has been quite explicitly clear that they object to being labelled as "victims". The bottom line is that whether you understand their concern or not, Wikipedia absolutely cannot label people with terms that the people in question object to being labelled with. Bearcat 23:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

If you argument was that the name would be considered offensive to a small subset of aids sufferers (is sufferers okay? er... I'm getting selfconsious here), and good alternatives would not be, fair enough. However the phrase is certainly in common use and I don't think many people would see it as negatively as you do. I'd almost be tempted to call common names on you, but obviously not offending people is more important than that. --zippedmartin 23:59, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
It's not a "small subset of AIDS sufferers" who take issue with "victims"; it's the overwhelming majority of them. And the fact that the term is still in common use doesn't prove that nobody's offended; it proves that mainstream society doesn't listen. Bearcat 00:08, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry Bearcat, but a quick glance at the AIDS article tells me that at most 1/40 people living with the virus are English speakers - the number who are likely to be offended by the word 'victim' is tiny compared to those who've never heard it. As this is an english language wiki, I'm happy to take it that people are likely to prefer a category titled in a way least likely to cause offence. --zippedmartin 00:19, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

A lot of them do seem to be rather archaic! :)


[edit] About Michaëlle Jean not being from Quebec...

Are you serious, Bearcat? She went to the University of Montreal (Montreal is in Quebec), and she taught at the same university for several years. Go to Quebecer Jean and read the text,

"...Jean will become Canada's 27th governor general at a pivotal time in politics, with the Prime Minister Paul Martin's Liberals into their second year of a minority government.

The appointment of a Quebecer seemed inevitable – it was Quebec's turn, the Martin couldn't afford to ignore the province. Liberals aren't polling well in the province, and there is a federal election expected next year." (CalgaryWikifan 02:35, 5 August 2005 (UTC))

(Note that in the comment CalgaryWikifan is responding to here, I said that Adrienne Clarkson isn't a Quebecer, not that Michaëlle Jean isn't.) Bearcat 03:05, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Give him some credit though for pointing out to you that Montreal is indeed in Quebec. 66.36.133.88 20:35, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Toronto EMS

Bearcat,

Just wondering where you got your information regarding Toronto EMS?

Swordsmith75

[edit] LGBT Cixous =

Please substantiate this in the article. I will remove the categorisation pending documented verifiablity. Buffyg 11:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] CBC

I looked at the CBC Radio 2 schedule, but which program features classical music, they are all outlined in red, besides Saturday Afternoon at the Opera? By the way, is it that cold up there in Canada, where you live during Summer?


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[edit] Detroit AM Station

I used radio-locator.com and looked up stations that were closest to the Detroit market, so it looks like that source was incorrect in that regard. The funny thing is, while looking up the FM portion of the Detroit radio market, I noticed that their listing of the call letters of the station at 93.9 was outdated, and I did put in the correct callsign. ErikNY 04:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minshullj

I have an article you might be interested in deleting. It too speaks of an indivual who is at this point only arrested but clearly guilty and since it was started has been continually updated as more info becomes available. Although no conviction yet so you better give it the axe. Also under my talk page there is an article I was hoping to contribute but wanted to have you comb through it before formally posting it.

--Minshullj 17:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

I reverted some edits made by User:200.73.82.173 on your talk page. Check out the message I put on his talk page. I think you'll like. :) Wikipedianinthehouse 22:37, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

I figured you'd rather call yourself a "fag" than a homosexual. :) You aren't a clinical diagnosis! :) Wikipedianinthehouse

[edit] Phillip Nozuka

On the vfd page for Phillip Nozuka/ here you asked if I could provide a cite for Eskimo kid becoming a regular cast member in the fall, and that you'd change your vote if I did. This is a moot point since the page is being kept, but I looked around and could not. My source was a article linked on the tvtome.com Degrassi page, but since tvtome changed to tv.com, it's been a piece of poo and that article link must have dissapeared. I still stand by my claim, but I admit I can't back it up. --Boycottthecaf 02:46, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Montreal River (Ontario)

Have you ever actually seen South of Wawa?

...Has anyone? Or is it just a legend? A set-up, a put-on; an ethereal stream of celluloid in the sky; something meant to be discussed forever, but never actually seen? ...A snuff film for those whose idea of murderous sadism is... uh, Dan Hill in concert?

,,,If so, and they actually reached the road... Category:Road movies? The elusive Samaritan 13:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Please forgive me for engaging in cross-talk, but Samaritan needs an answer to this. I have seen South of Wawa, and quite enjoyed it.
There is, however, at this point, only scant and possibly apocryphal evidence that I exist. Ground Zero | t 13:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I'm a shark-infested ocean, &c.

God rest my soul for indirectly promoting one the most ridiculous musical acts I've ever heard, but Sudbury's gift to rap-rock music does deserve an article someday; yet look at this mess: Special:Undelete/Project_Wyze. Anything there to start from? Samaritan 00:05, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 1922 May 21

Let's just say I'm a little obsessive about some things. As a former world champion Mr. Metric, I hold to all things SI, and SI holds that year-month-day is the approved form. It's unfortunate that Wikipedia has not yet entered the 20th century in that regard. I'm of the feeling that, just as with British/North American spellings, things should be left the way you found them when you came to the article, and should be changed only to ensure conformity within the article. Now I'm utterly mystified as to why you changed only one, and left its neighbor sitting there, an odd duck out! Denni☯ 00:56, 2005 September 1 (UTC)

[edit] Hard Core Logo

*sheepish* Uh... it's on my list to see. (I know, I know... Hey, I hit 24 before seeing The Wizard of Oz...)

Maybe there should be a subcategory for musical tour movies? Samaritan 10:11, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Cities in North America

I looked up the IP address (24.203.7.52); it belongs to Le Groupe Videotron Ltee, which would explain the user's edits to Le SuperClub Vidéotron and Laval, Quebec. You're right though, there is some overlap between this anon's edits and Fat pig73. However, if I recall correctly, Fat pig73 edits from IPs in Scarborough (or somewhere in the GTA).

The IP 206.47.220.230, which you mentioned in Wikipedia talk:Canadian wikipedians' notice board, belongs to Bell Worldlinx, which has leased them to CIBC. I haven't figured out how CIBC has structured its network yet, so I don't know where in ON/QC this is located. If you have other IPs used by Fat pig that I can test, I'd be happy to do it.

One other note: if you compare the contribution histories of Fat pig73 and the anon 24.203.7.52, they merge nicely (except a bit at Aug 13). This may all be coincidence, but it's worth checking out. Mindmatrix 15:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of Fat pig73, what's the deal with this and this? Mindmatrix 15:29, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I had thought about the same two issues you mentioned - they probably both apply, but he's the only one that truly knows. Either way, if he has them on his watchlist, these articles will pop up in his list; otherwise, they'd go un-edited for a while, so I just merged them anyhow. Mindmatrix 17:43, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barrett's Privateers

Hi- just wondering why you removed the Canadian song/folk music/folk song categories from the Barrett's Privateers article, as it seems to me that they fit. Please reply at Barrett's Privateers talk or my talk page.--Scimitar parley 16:37, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the clarification.--Scimitar parley 16:55, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The eternal struggle between man and beaver

I was all ready to VfD Joshua Hellyer, but: there's a ghost of a chance the show he co-hosted, probably on community cable?, might have been notable with reference to a local community or a subculture. +Sabrevision +TV, +cable or +Rogers googles nothing relevant. Joshua, Joshua Paul, Josh or Josh Paul Hellyer yield nothing besides Wikipedia and this. The one other thing to do would be to ask the contributor for further detail on SABREVISION... Do I worry too much? Samaritan 13:18, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bringing Wikipedia to Toronto

I've been working on a bid to bring Wikimania 2006 to Toronto. I have contacted KMDI, an institute at the University of Toronto. They are very interested in partnering with us, and can get us a full range of U of T facilities for free. With this offer I think there is a very good chance of bringing Wikimania 2006 to Toronto. The only thing we currently lack are people willing to help out. I'm willing to do much of the work, but for the time being I am in Ottawa and having some people on the ground in Toronto will be necessary. We also need a number of people willing to assist at the actual event, likely the first weekend of August 2006. If you are interested in helping out sign up at Wikimania 2006/Toronto. Preliminary bids from various cities need to be made by Sept. 30, 2005, at which point a committee will choose which city gets to host the event. The number of people willing to help will certainly be an important consideration. - SimonP 16:20, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copy paste move

Hi Bearcat. You copypasted Jack Douglas into Jack Douglas (record producer) a while back, only copy paste moves violate the GFDL because they orphan the edit history. I think the only way of satisfying it now is to copy-paste the history from Jack Douglas into the Talk: of Jack Douglas (record producer). Is that right; it seems to be what Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves suggests? -Splash 08:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I was wondering why you couldn't do something just like that. In fact, I had thought of the more convoluted:
  1. Delete both
  2. Restore Jack Douglas to before the dab
  3. Move it to Jack Douglas (record producer)
  4. Delete Jack Douglas again
  5. Restore only the edits after the copypaste move

and almost did it, but chickened out. Have I misunderstood the example at the bottom of Wikipedia:How to fix cut and paste moves (which would seem to match this case exactly), or does that document need updating? -Splash 18:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I see that what you did certainly seems to repair the history. Do I misunderstand the "troublesome case" on that page? If I replace A with John Douglas and B with John Douglas (record producer) I think it's exactly what they describe: but you are clearly correct in what you have done, so I must be missing a link somewhere? -Splash 19:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec City-Windsor Corridor

I ran across this edit, which seemed odd to me. I wouldn't classify the corridor as a metropolitan area, but I may be missing the reasoning behind this. Mindmatrix 14:30, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I read the BosWash article shortly after posting the comment above. It seems a little silly, considering that there are vast sections of unpopulated land within each of those "metropolitan areas", but so be it. I wonder what the equivalent areas in India and China would be :-) Mindmatrix 19:30, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your statement on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warden Avenue

Hello! I tend to think of AfD not as people voting but of people giving their sentiment on an article. Your reasoning sounded most convincing, so I followed it. Have a good day! Pilatus 12:35, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting Review of Canadian National Exhibition article

Hello there:

I've seen your name come up many times in reference to various Canadian-oriented articles. As a more experienced Wikipedian than I, could you please take a look at the article on the Canadian National Exhibition I have been working on and leave me your thoughts on the Talk:Canadian_National_Exhibition page? Have also put a suggested framework for further development of the article on the Talk page and would appreciate your feedback on it.

In short, am I loopy for doing things the way I am? ;-) Captmondo 02:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Roads in Toronto et al

I'm going to guess the author is the same one who created all but Midland on the last batch I nominated on AfD - pretty much par for the course on this one, no? :-) I've got a list of roads to nominate, but I don't want to inundate AfD with road articles. Speaking of which, what do you think of Roncesvalles Avenue? I don't know that area well, and I think its a minor road, but something's nagging me about it. Mindmatrix 12:35, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh how my brain hurts. Let's see:
  • Lower Osgoode - delete
  • Lower Eglinton West - delete, if it was filled in; otherwise, it'll be used by spelunkers like other abandoned stations and is worth an article
  • Lower Allen - I think you incorrectly linked this
We could probably use a comprehensive single article about the abandoned stations. As for the bridge-cruft...like I said, my brain hurts. Mindmatrix 14:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Regarding Allen Station, I think it can be deleted too. It's also filled with some PoV and prognostication for good measure. As for that batch of Toronto roads, they've been deleted, but Broadview Avenue was not. Mindmatrix 16:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
BTW: the counts were 8-4 to delete for Broadview, and 15-7 for the batch (with one merge). I'm not sure I agree with the resolution of the Broadview AfD. Mindmatrix 16:45, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Roads in Ottawa

Well, I'm turning my attention to Ottawa too. Since I don't know it nearly as well as Toronto, and you mentioned having lived there for a while...do you think these are valid nominees for AfD:

I haven't had time to assess other roads yet. Mindmatrix

Regarding being primed for a fight: I've been aware for a while that this is going to make me a few enemies...I'd truly like to see a WikiAtlas project (or something similar), because it's clear that people want to write about roads — I just don't think WP is the place for it. Nobody has gone to the trouble of attempting to find consensus about what constitutes a WP-worthy road article (despite this), so I thought I'd give it a try. I notice some of the comments left on the current VfDs are showing signs of irritation, but so be it.
My goal is to set consensus for roads in Canada (and I hope others will pick up on it for roads in other parts of the world), and to eventually re-write that policy document with actual consensus derived from AfDs, since discussion resolved nothing. It'll upset a few people, but I think this is worthwhile, and (I think) I'm prepared for the backlash. Mindmatrix 16:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Airport name

This is not meant to be a "my name is better than yours" argument but just an explanation as to why I used Sudbury Airport and not Greater Sudbury Airport. I really only have one source of information and that's the Canada Flight Supplement (CFS). It lists Sudbury but there is no entry under the G saying Greater Sudbury see Sudbury. As an example for Greater Moncton International Airport there's an entry in the CFS which says Greater Moncton Intl see Moncton/Greater Moncton Intl. It seems that several airports have more than one offical/proper name. CFB Goose Bay is listed in the CFS as Goose Bay Airport and CFB Greenwood is listed as Greenwood Airport. The best one of these is Toronto Pearson International Airport which is listed here GTAA site but in the CFS as Toronto/Lester B. Pearson Intl. I suspect that places change the names but don't bother to register it with NavCanada. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather 11:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I suspect that what's happend here is that the town/airport has changed and they just haven't got around to registering it wiht NavCanada or Transport Canada. CambridgeBayWeather 00:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania meeting tommorrow

Hello, and thanks for signing up at Wikimania_2006/Toronto. It has been announced that there will be a half hour meeting on the Wikimania IRC channel tomorrow October 2, at 20:00 UST (4:00 pm EST) to pick the 3 city shortlist. It would be great if you could attend. Also these are our last hours to ensure that our bid at Wikimania_2006/Toronto is as good as it can be, so any improvements to it would also be useful. There are now four cities in the running, so tomorrow one is getting cut. - SimonP 20:52, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User page in a category

Hello,
My subpages are in the categories because of a template that we are creating for the Baseball Wikiproject and the categories are written into the template automatically. This is only temporary until we get the bugs out. Our goal is about 10-14 days. I hope this is not going to be a problem(?). Let me know if I really need to remove those ASAP. Have a good one!--CrazyTalk 06:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Radio Mirchi

Image:WikiThanks.png Thank you for your contribution at Radio Mirchi.
Please keep it up!!! - P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail. have a look at Indian subcontinent earthquakes list

[edit] Brewing war on CFD

There's some hot stuff today on Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 October 11 w/r/t the deletion of Category:Gay UK MPs. Get her, specifically. Cheers, Cleduc 20:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Vaughan

I see our friend has found a new hobby, or more precisely, a new article category on which to work (yeah, I looked at the contrib log; yeah, I see your name as the next edit in, ahem, a few cases). The thing is, there's so much energy and devotion, if only it could be channeled more productively...

Oh, to answer your skill-testing question: I usually do a quick text scan before reading, and I noticed the see also section, linking to articles already wikified in the prior text. Classic calling card, that one. Mindmatrix 23:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

That's odd - I was going to mention the same thing (about autism) in my message above yesterday, but then decided not to. Perhaps we should find a Wikipedian with some expertise in the field to get another opinion. At the very least, it would give us an idea of how to best handle the situation. Mindmatrix 15:08, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian station database

The CRTC does not maintain a database of technical information about broadcast stations because it does not regulate technical matters. The database of Canadian broadcast stations is maintained by Industry Canada. 121a0012 04:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] People from Ontario

Have a look at some of the sub-categories listed in this cat. I can understand some of them, say Hamiltonians, but Richmond Hillers and Oakvillians seem very wrong to me, and they don't follow the current conventions. They were all created by one user. Something else to add to our to-do list... Mindmatrix 15:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I've been poring over the WP:CfD and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories) (and the related talk pages). I find it messy. There doesn't appear to be a cohesive or consistent strategy for category naming, after all. In some cases, its X in place or X of place; in others, its Place-ian X et al. I suspect this will cause a lot of confusion for readers. When I wrote the above comment, I had assumed there was a trend towards reaching this consistent state, but it looks like I was wrong and the above categories are quite legitimate as the consensus stands right now. Mindmatrix 00:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Alright, let's see:

...the issue with categories like Oakvillians and Richmond Hillers is that I really don't think either city is significant enough to deserve its own "People from..." category.

I agree, but I do think there should be a category devoted to the cities or towns themselves. A Richmond Hill category, for example, could be populated with the Dunlap observatory, Yonge Street, Oak Ridges Moraine etc., as well as prominent individuals from, or residing in, the town.

As far as our friend is concerned (re:Minister of Finance (Ontario)), I just can't keep up - I already spend so much time doing various grunt work (especially re-stubbing and categorizing geographical articles). I checked the contributions from that IP, and I see plenty of edits to articles about Canadian buildings and politicians. Some were decent, but others fit the earlier trend (over-populated See also sections etc); and then there's the one you posted on my talk page...sigh

I thought about suggesting on the notice board that we keep an eye on him/her, for all related accounts and IPs, but that seems too Orwellian - I won't do it. A mentoring-type arrangement would be suitable, but the user ignores all contact. I know you've spent a lot of time cleaning up after him, despite your own categorization (and other) work, so we should find a way to get the user to make those positive contributions while refraining from the more questionable ones. The question is, how? It seems unproductive to keep cleaning up after him. Mindmatrix 17:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Categorization/Gender, race and sexuality

You might care to weigh in there. Cheers, Cleduc 04:15, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] radio call signs

Thanks. I'll try to remember that. Vegaswikian 00:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Charles H. Mackintosh

Actually, I think that I should have put him in the historical members category, which I did just now. My error, anyway. --Big_Iron 21:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ontario pols

I realized that I was making this mistake a short time ago and switched back to the proper method (but thanks for the reminder).

On a semi-related point, could you look over the current goings-on at the David Miller page? Someone has been making extremely partisan edits that fall just short of vandalism, and I'm over my three-revert limit for the day. CJCurrie 00:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brenard Lord image

Where is there discussion going on about this besides the ifd page? This is a serious injustice, and I feel like I'm missing something. Thanks. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:04, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

An RFC may be the only way. I don't even like that ifd page, it's difficult to comment there. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
BTW, today I created Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian law if you want to join. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

For you I would fly to the moon. ;-) So yes, I'll endorse. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 23:33, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png Great job on that RFC! To be kind, I award you this Random Acts of Kindness barnstar. --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 00:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral Districts

I would like to invite you to participate in Wikipedia:WikiProject Electoral districts in Canada. It is just getting started so please read through it, familiarize yourself with the topic and the options/examples and then participate in the debate about how the pages should best be laid out. --maclean25 00:03, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Ming Pao Daily News (Toronto)

I am not the person who originally added the Rivals section to these articles. If it is policy to not have a Rivals section I'll delete it.—Gniw (Wing) 07:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

FWIW, this means I’ll need to think of some way other than adding another link to “Rivals” next Tuesday. I’ll think about it next week when the time comes to update it.—Gniw (Wing) 07:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
FYI, it is November 1 now, so I added back a Rivals section, but I have deliberately avoided the old format. I wish I could use the original format; this looks quite awkward right now.—Gniw (Wing) 06:19, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sing Tao Daily (Toronto)

I see that you have removed my comment about Sing Tao's editorial's stance. But my comment is factually correct. For some controversial news that the Star would not report at all, Sing Tao would go ahead and report them. At least the new coverage is more neutral, so the editorial stance must also be more neutral since the editors decide what to appear in the paper.—Gniw (Wing) 07:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I’ll rephrase it to avoid the word “extreme”. (Not that I agree with the assertion that the Star is not “left”, though. It’s at least lefter than Sing Tao.)—Gniw (Wing) 07:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian VfD

Should we just remove that "Notable Canadians" section? It was an experiment with deletion sorting but I don't think anyone bothers to scroll down that far. --maclean25 07:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

  • I removed the "Notable Canadians" section. I think it was a good idea but perhaps its time hasn't come yet. --maclean25 01:02, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Riel/Natives

Hi - please see my note on Talk:Louis Riel. I think it's not just an issue with the Riel article, but with the way the categories are being reorganized. ←Hob 03:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:First Nations leaders

whoops. I actually meant to type that it was full of "first nations" leaders.

e.g. the category contained both 'native american' and 'first nations'.

but I don't think it does anymore! getcrunk juice 13:41, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I don't think the word "already" means what you think it means

Your edit comment: :Category:Queer theory is already a subcategory of all three other categories; Wikipedia expressly has a policy against redundant categorization. this hardly needs explaining.

It's an odd sense of "already" to mean "I can later change categories to retroactively make sense of my uncommented article edit to Queer theory." But OK, aside from the slightly obnoxious edit comment and sequence, I guess the way categories are arranged now is doable. (it actually seems a little off to have a n identically named category act as a "proxy" for the article itself; there might be other examples of this, but it doesn't really fit the meaning of categorization... but that's minor, and I'll live with it). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 14:58, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding that Canadian thing

Then I'll hold ANOTHER vote. The current scenario just doesn't work. I understand that in general the rule is to keep things the way they are. But nobody really voted on keeping things the way they are either. WhisperToMe 15:48, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

And one more thing. I moved it so it would be a "temporary arrangement". Later a permanent vote would be held to determine where it all would go in the future. WhisperToMe 16:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Actually, Bearcat, I've seen plenty of cases where a case is not reached, and a few months later, the same argument is proposed again. And it's been a few months, so it's 100% okay to propose again! Or I could change my request and simply ask for a retitling of that article. WhisperToMe 19:17, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thunder Bay

Thank you for your message and for fixing it. - Darwinek 09:25, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greater Sudbury flag

I've replaced the Greater Sudbury flag image you uploaded (Image:Gtsudburyflag.jpg) with an SVG version (Image:Greater Sudbury flag.svg). I've listed the original for deletion. Hope this is OK. –Mysid (talk) 13:41, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Seems like that can be dealt with by adding Header Format=Custom Flag to the beginning of the infobox, so you can use a full filename. –Mysid (talk) 07:54, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] You wheeeed on my talk page?

I agree that we need to monitor the user(s) in some way, and I agree that the edits are not of sufficient quality, but there must be a better way than simply tracking the user(s). I'll help you out for now, but we probably need a broader discussion, perhaps without reference to the IPs and users in question. We definitely need a better strategy.

By the way, there was a discussion on the mailing lists in mid-October about how to deal with users that exhibit signs of autism. If you're interested, read these (and follow the next message links too):

There are plenty of good arguments there. Mindmatrix 19:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Saint-Lin

Ok, first of all, all I edited on Narcisse-Fortunat Belleau was to add a category :-p Now, as for Saint-Lin, This site clearly shows an em-dash. If anything, it should at least be a re-direct. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:50, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

My thinking is they used a simplified version on their website. Fair enough. It seems to me the emdash is used for the same reason it is used in riding names. That's why I think it might be somewhat of an issue. The also use em-dashes for region names, which aren't used in Wikipedia [8][9], however Montreal borough names do have em-dashes in Wikipedia [10]. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Shefman

Bearcat, thanks for resubmitting, I'm kinda new to the wikipedia world... Ya, I won't post on the vfd page, you make a good point. In terms of who it was, I have a feeling it isn't Cooper. He really hasn't been that antagonistic at all. There are however a number of people, including one person who ran against Alan in the by-election who have been very militant against Alan and Susan, to the point that the RCMP is involved. There is also of course the gentlemen from the Race Relations Committee (see the article posted by the anon user at the top of the vfd page) who I wouldn't put beyond them either. It's probably the same person who floods the "electionprediction" web page. Anyways, i'll be watching it closely, thanks a lot for your help! pm_shef 17:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

pm_shef and bearcat, first I am not Josh Cooper and was not involved in his campaign infact I am a member of the liberal party and was involved in Mario Racco's campaign and Elinor Caplan's campaign. Even though I am a liberal I support non-biased opinions which both of you have displayed that your opinions are very biased. I am infavour of deleting Josh Cooper's article now as he is no longer a federal candidate. just between us there in no way that Alan Shefman's article is notable enough to stay posted. I could list literaly hundreds of Vaughan people that are more notable than Alan Shefman. Eyeonvaughan 5 November 2005

[edit] Christian radio stations in Canada

Thanks for making some touch-ups to the page that I started. It's a work in progress for me, but I plan on finishing everything on that page in the next few days (including making appropriate Wikilinks, looking up station frequencies, verifying that all information is correct, etc.). I'll get around to it.  :)

Backguy 19:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pat Lowther

Hi, your article on Pat Lowther has been listed as a possible copyvio at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2005 October 21. It could be delted, unless you have the permission to use the text or if you can substantially rewrite it and remove the offending paras. Thanks. --Pamri • Talk • Reply 03:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification and rewrite. I have removed it from that list. Of course, we didn't imply you did it intentionally and it just required a bit of rewrite to set that right. Thanks again. --Pamri • Talk • Reply 05:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Buors

If you get a chance, could you look at the discussion on Talk:Chris Buors? CJCurrie 20:15, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category vote request

Hi, thanks for supporting me on the eccentric category. I would really appreciate your comment or vote at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Jewish_American_actors. There is a real problem with this category and similar ones as mixing ethnicity-nationality-profession in categories is in my opinion extremely bad for the category structure. The main reason for this is many people are being added to these xxx American categories for having one grandparent of that ethnicity, therefore they can be in four xxx American categories. If we allow the ethnicity-nationality-profession mix in categories, for example, for someone who has grandparents of four different ethnicities and two professions i.e. actor and director, they could end up in four xxx American actor categories and four xxx American director categories which in my opinion would make Wikipedia look ridiculous. In my opinion this category should be merged with Category:American actors. Thanks Arniep 21:20, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your support and comments on the Jewish American actor category. I found your reasoning interesting, what would be your opinion on whether these two categories Category:Jewish film directors, and Category:Jewish classical musicians (the latter which I created) are encyclopedic? Arniep 13:32, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Buors update

I've restored the quote, and have given my reasons on the talk page. You may wish to add the Buors page to your watchlist if you haven't done so already, in the event that the three-revert rule prevents me from keeping my revisions in place. CJCurrie 03:24, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Another request: Could you make a brief statement verifying that you've read the contentious quote, as it appears the cached page? I'm concerned this page may vanish in the near future. CJCurrie 04:24, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ontario maps

I notice you're the creator of a number of maps of Ontario, all apparently derived from a common source. Most, if not all, of them appear to have been uploaded without source information, and many of them have been deleted or are in danger of being deleted soon. If you could advise me as to the origins of the base map, I'd be happy to assist in preventing further deletions and resurrecting already-deleted maps. Thanks in advance. IceKarmaॐ 06:52, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FRANK (mag) Forum

Bearcat, I was just reading the FRANK mag page and notice that you've edited it frequently. Did you ever post on the old FRANK Forum (as I did), as I'm trying to remember a regular poster's nick. He was purportedly from British Columnbia, was crazier than a bed bug but hilarious with a very strange writing style. I've been trying to remember this person's nick for months now and it's driving me crazy. User:Barry Wells, November 10, 2005.

[edit] Jewish film directors etc.

Hi, thanks for your response. I think an argument could be made that jewish people have been influential in the theatre and film, but was it because they were jewish? Definitely part of African American culture came from the suffering their forebears experienced in the slave trade and segregation etc. So could we argue that the suffering and discrimination that Jewish people have experienced has caused them and their descendents to have perhaps have a gift for humour, and creativeness? Arniep 20:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian blogosphere vfd

Deletionists targeting Canada again. Canadian blogosphere vfd--Simon.Pole and Progressive Bloggers vfd 04:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Ever think of forking Wikipedia? The Italians, Germans etc. have the benefit of their own language to insulate themselves from the deletionists of other countries. I wonder if the Wikipedia foundation could set up national domains, where non-nationals have fewer delete privileges.--Simon.Pole 03:32, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
    • It looks like the GNAA is organizing a mass deletion of blog-related entries. (The information is at the bottom of the Prog Blog and Can. Blogosphere entries). The whole vfd is a farce and should be stopped.--Simon.Pole 10:41, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
      • The GNAA suprememo User:Timecop even has the entry on Iranian blogs on his list to delete. That is just pure and simple malice, if you're aware of how important blogs are in totalitarian places. These guys have to be squashed.--Simon.Pole 23:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
        • Thanks for bringing it to the attention of the "authorities." It looks like User:Skrewler and User:Timecop are working in tandem, with Skrewler proposing the deletes, and Timecop following up. This can be seen here. Skrewler was the one who originally put Proggressive Bloggers and the Canadian Blosophere into vfd.--Simon.Pole 03:49, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
          • User:Femmina is also part of the GNAA-directed "War on Blogs", according to her userpage. She's the second delete edit after Timecop in the vfd cited above. The admins have to do something about this before it gets out of hand.--Simon.Pole 11:05, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
            • How many times are you going to reply to yourself, sockpuppet? -- Femmina 02:38, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Detroit-Windsor

Thanks for clarifying; the few media sources I had were less than perfect on the full impact of what was agreed. Radagast 22:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blog AfDs

Hi Bearcat, I see you are a fellow Canadian! Anyway, thanks for your comment, but I think you will agree with me that once an article is listed on AfD, it moves beyond the control of any group. I repeat my comment on the AfD: insofar as it helps to create consensus (which I think you will agree does not yet exist), who cares the provenance. And I am certain that you are not suggesting that by voting to delete I and other editors are somehow related to or supporting an offensive group like GNAA. On s'exprime, on laisse voir! C'est si simple. Cheers, Dottore So 12:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, I am not denying that they are meddling in the votes, but that their presence does not invalidate the value or usefulness of a consensus-determining set of votes on blogs generally. I am unclear what you are advocating: because GNAA members are voting other editors should abstain from the vote? Dottore So 12:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Bearcat: Once nominations are up on AfD, they are open to the community as a whole to vote on them. I doubt GNAA has enough clout to sway consensus against the community generally. As a result, I reiterate the provenance of the nomination is irrelevant since what matters is the outcome of the voting which, as can be clearly seen on the Canadian blog voting, is a matter of considerable interest. GNAA participation is, therefore, a canard in this case since the question of whether blogs generally merit entries is a debate worth having, regardless of the motivations of the nominators. IS GNAA offensive? Yes. Does that matter? Not really. Arguments for keeping the articles should be based on their individual merits. Dottore So 12:48, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I just don't agree with your assessment. Notable articles do not get deleted through caprice. Hell by my (granted stringent, minoritarian) view for what should be kept, an amazing amount of unnotable stuff is prevented from being culled. As it is, plenty of the delete votes (see this AfD [11] for example) are from users with diverse edit histories, etc.... I respect the fact that you disagree with my delete votes, but I reject the implication that somehow these are not valid AfDs. If GNAA were simply blanking pages they don't like - that would be one thing. But this is not vandalism, this is putting up pages for community opinion. Dottore So 13:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Bearcat,

I have posted suggestions for determining the verifiability and notability of blogs at Wikipedia talk:Websites#Blogs. I welcome your input or anybody else's for that matter there. Capitalistroadster 09:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Einar Örn Benediktsson

Hi. In this edit you edited Einar Örn Benediktsson, adding him to Category:LGBT musicians (a category that later became category:Gay musicians). Over at Talk:Einar Örn Benediktsson someone is questioning this categorisation, and we don't cite a source to back it up. Perhaps you'd care to comment on that talk page. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:06, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Evidence Against Alexa

I'm not sure where to put this in the wiki pages, but I've seen your voice against Alexa in the vfd's. Here's an analysis from the Tech-Recipes website showing just how few people use Alexa. TR was diggdotted by the surging Digg website, but found none of the extra traffic showed up on Alexa. (Wired is calling Digg the "Slashdot-killer"--Simon.Pole 03:30, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bracket close on Canadian English

Sorry for my silly edit on Canadian English. When I viewed the page, it appeared as though someone had added a second and unnecessary bracket close. I thought I was reverting that mistake. I can't explain how I did the exact opposite of what I thought I was doing. HistoryBA 02:14, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vote request

Hi, I would appreciate your vote here Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:LGBT_criminals. Thanks Arniep 02:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bloggerhell

Yeah, talk about a situation that makes nobody happy. Unfortunately, it's also a kind of unresolvable situation: to just take the result that applies to one to apply to both doesn't really make me happy. At first, I was thinking that we might just wait a week and relist Progressive Bloggers but that errs towards deletion, which nobody likes (although I'm having a hard time thinking of a better way). Maybe wait a week, list Progressive Bloggers on AfD and Blogging Tories on VfU? Maybe just stick our heads in the sand and pretend it all never happened? It's a tricky spot. Lord Bob 19:28, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi Bearcat, It is a stupid decision. I have been giving some thought and we have four options:

  1. Do nothing.
  2. Wait for a while and put Progressive Bloggers on AfD again.
  3. Wait for a while and start a new Blogging Tories article.
  4. Go to WP:DRV

If we go to DRV, we need to make a good case. The points we should make are:

  1. Bias by inclusion, like you pointed out. Noting that both you and I are from the left of the political spectrum (my knee-dipper credentials are here: Yukon general election, 1996 :-) ) and not involved in blogging should add credibility to the request.
  2. The decision to delete did not reflect the lack of consensus 19 keeps vs 20 delete. A number of trolls, sockpuppets and new users were identified, but not all of them so we should identify them all in the request and do a proper count of "legitimate" users.
  3. We could also reiterate the idea that it is a notable blog, but we would need to provide even more evidence to convince Lord Bob and other legitimate editors. But I don't personally feel like digging up evidence of notability of a bunch of Tories.

If we do what Lord Bob suggests, we might end up in the same situation with the respective articles reversed, so we do one or the other. I would probably vote delete on another AfD if Blogging Tories were not undeleted. I would probably prefer no. 4. Anyway, these are my two cents' worth. Luigizanasi 04:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, having Blogging Tories undeleted and Progressive Bloggers deleted would be a serious pain in the rear. I think that going to VfU...er...DRV... and trying to get this undeleted on the ground of consistency is probably the best way out of this, unfortunately. This is just an amazingly irritating situation to be in. For the record, I still don't think that Blogging Tories is notable, but I'd probably vote to undelete just to have things straight (of course, if they both come up for AfD again in the future, I reserve the right to get out the deletestick!). Lord Bob 05:51, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] new category created

User talk:67.171.237.88 created Category:LGBT murderers this morning, you may want to cfd it or watch it so you know whwn its been cfded. Arniep 16:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blogs

I see that you've added some content on blogs while on Wikipedia. I thought, therefore, there was a chance you would be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Blogging. Phil Sandifer 17:52, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Art Deco

Hi, Bearcat. Just wondering why you removed The Carlu (Toronto) from the Art Deco category. Skeezix1000 18:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Superstations

thank you, bearcat. I know canada doesn't have any OFFICIAL superstations, but i thought i could put a couple in, since they ARE carried on US cable systems...(CIII, CFTO, and CHCH as examples)

[edit] Peer review

After Tregoweth responded to my peer review request on his talk page by cleaning up the article on The Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation, I am asking you to see whether this will qualify for featured status. Leave your comments in the peer review page; feel free to read my comments for its improvement.

I am asking you, because of your work in the categories while the article was just starting.

I expect a response from you in a good while. --Slgrandson 20:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your Delete vote on Brian Lawrence

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Lawrence I just rewrote the article from a nonsense version to a valid stub on the current baseball pitcher. Could you change your vote if you can. Thanks --Aranda 56) 04:00, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sudbury Airport

Ok, I am working from the CFS and it just says Municipality. It also says the "offical" name is Sudbury Airport and not Greater Sudbury Airport. I've changed the line to read run by "Municipality of the city of Greater Sudbury" which is according to the Sudbury article and the CFS the correct version. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:37, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I was moving the double names to the start of the article as per the discussion elsewhere. I just realised that the CFS says "Muni" and nothing else. As far as the CFS goes it could be the Municipality of Toronto. A lot of the naming problems stem from the fact that the companies/municipalities running the airports don't let NavCan know about the changes. I assume you've seen the discussion over Pearson Airport. However, there are probably still multiple errors in the CFS. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:02, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mindmatrix scam adminship

Image:CAD1000 Front.png

As fellow residents of this land, I feel it is my duty to employ my newly-granted priviliges to ensure that this politically unstable land may one day achieve a level of stability and functional governance that we all desire. To that end, please use the attached funds with the strictest confidence to accomplish this goal. (Yes, you're right, functional governance and Canadian politics is an oxymoron.) Thank you for your support. Mindmatrix 21:23, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Montgomery Keillor

You may be interested to know that an article which you (among many others) deleted was re-created and is now up as an afd. --maclean25 00:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Killarney Provincial Park

Hi Bearcat. Thanks for your contribution/correction to the Killarney Provincial Park article. I'm trying to improve it bit by bit and I appreciate the help. (K. D. Paterson 14:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Request

Hello,

This has nothing to do with Canadian politics, but I'm wondering if you could look over the discussion on Talk:Gregory Lauder-Frost.

I have reason to believe that a small number of people have been attempting to use Wikipedia for narrow partisan ends, writing glowing articles on figures from Britain's far-right. This is potentially a matter of some importance for Wikipedia's credibility.

Thank you, CJCurrie 18:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Even small things deserve an article

RE: Dean Blundell

It's a very popular morning show in Toronto. It isn't nonsense and the article is accurate with sources. You being convinced hasn't got anything to do with it. Thanks.

Oh I agree but it is also broadcast worldwide via online, CFNY has about 10% of their listeners that are not from the GTA and is something like the 3rd most station listened to worldwide (not sure on latest ranking but at one time it was number one). Plus if you have articles for local television programs like Breakfast Telivision, why not the Dean Blundell Show.

-Cheers, (Stanley Ipkiss 02:21, 13 December 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Call signs

Re your recent suffixing (sufficing?) of -FMs and -TVs: I agree with it (and probably would have done so eventually myself) but there is one trivial matter. Most (but not all) CBC TV stations do not use the -TV suffix. (But all FMs do have -FM.) I don't know if you have any database software available but the Industry Canada database files here, and most CRTC decisions pertaining to the stations, i.e. here (except for CBNT which appears to be incorrectly suffixed in that decision), indicate the correct call signs.

I'm likely as clueless as you are as to why; I've been trying to find out myself and can only assume that the CBC is able to make up its own rules for CB* call signs (hence other quirks like five-letter call signs). Thanks! — Stickguy 16:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Upon further review it looks like you're basing things on Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations, which it looks like you're interpreting to mean every station title should have a suffix of some sort, actual or implied - it doesn't look like that to me. CJYQ isn't a duplicated call sign; why does it need to be moved to CJYQ (AM)? (See also Talk:WFAN (AM)) Having said that, you are correct that all FM and TV station call signs in Canada, CBC excluded, automatically use suffices, unlike the U.S. — Stickguy 18:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Re your comments: I realize a WikiProject is not policy but it seemed to indicate that, in this case, the official name was preferred (i.e. Use WYBE and use WNEP-TV, even if both are TV stations with unduplicated calls). After a prior debacle I came to the conclusion that the consensus was to use the shortest assumed-unique name possible, i.e. CFTO not CFTO-TV, IBM not International Business..., etc. So I disagree but I'm sufficiently confused at the moment that I'll leave them as-is for now. Thanks again. — Stickguy 19:03, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Do the Bearcat

I hope you've heard David Wilcox's song Do the Bearcat which you can hear immediately at the official site. It's a knockout tune and he's a great musician. Hu 01:24, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] London Templates

i don't just "pad things" into templates. Channels 2, 4, and 7 reach London. 20 is replaced with OMNI, and available on cable. Cleveland and Erie Stations are also visible. the closer you get to Woodstock and Kitchener, howerver, you begin to recieve Buffalo's stations.

Raccoon Fox 04:29, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] North Bay

Not only Map Art, but StatsCan's geosearch lists it as Birch Haven. Also, none of his other communities added came up in the geosearch. -- Earl Andrew - talk 07:04, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sigh

What do these things have in common? (Yes, that's rhetorical.)

Now, as I was removing some content for the second time, an interesting thing happened. Here's an example. Mindmatrix 17:49, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article John Drainie, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Categories Major Junior Teams

I noticed your edits on the OHL team alumni categories, and you said that it isn't the way to do it to put subcategories of other teams on that page. Where I'm coming from that these teams are the other forms that that individual team has taken. I cannot provide a link to the old teams on the category pages because most of them do not have a link. So for example, if someone is looking at the Guelph Storm category page, they used to be the Toronto Marlboros, how else I am supposed to let the viewer know that? Croat Canuck 22:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Alright then, I guess there is the actual OHL alumni page for that sort of thing too. Croat Canuck 17:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categorizing

[edit] Categorizing

Hi there...just a couple of comments about some recent categorization you've done:

  1. Wikipedia actually has a pretty explicit rule against filing articles in categories and subcategories of the first category at the same time; what this means is that if an article is already filed in Category:LGBT media or Category:Transgender and transsexual people, then it can't also be filed in the general Category:LGBT.
  2. Pipetext after the category name is actually a filing scheme; you should only use a pipe followed by a space when you're applying the category to the absolute topmost defines-what-the-category-is article. So for Category:LGBT, the only article that should have [[:Category:LGBT| ]] on it is LGBT itself. Everything else should have either the category name with no pipetext at all if the appropriate filing letter is the first letter of the article title, or pipetext that defines how the article should be sorted alphabetically (e.g. [[:Category:Transgender and transsexual people|Araujo, Gwen]] or [[:Category:LGBT media|Body Politic, The]]) if the appropriate filing letter isn't the first letter of the article title.

Hope that helps a bit... Bearcat 02:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Bearcat!
I appreciate the tip. I am trying to get much more involved with Wikipedia and the LGBT category - and I was trying to figure out some of the finer points of categorizing. Let me know how I can be better in this area.
tdempsey 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tip

Please give constructive advice when removing info from an article. Asdquefty 20:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Free Cheese deletion

When you deleted Free Cheese, there was a redirect at The Free Cheese Nation left over. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sudbury Water Aerodromes

Sorry about that I forgot that it was Greater Sudbury. Should the infobox on Sudbury/Azilda Water Aerodrome also say Greater Sudbury? Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. They should be safe from me now as I've run out of airports in Ontario. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:18, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] what say ye now?

http://gynosupremacy.net/

  • Say I: one website using an invented word as its domain name does not prove the existence of a social phenomenon that merits a Wikipedia article. HTH, HAND. Bearcat 03:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bad news bc

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Gynosupremacy&btnG=Google+Search

  • Try following the Google search to its conclusion. There are a grand total of 65 distinct hits, which is about as close to nonexistent as you can get. Wikipedia policy, in fact, quite explicitly states that a word with that few identifiable hits is considered inherently unverifiable and unencyclopedic. Even the nonsense word "floop" gets more hits than that. So, bad news for me? Afraid not, kiddo. (Oh, and by the way, a good portion of those 65 hits are femme-dom porn sites, which don't exactly suit your thesis.) Bearcat 03:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] chill

No need to be nasty bc other terms or spellings may be being used. btw "floop" shows up so often because people misspell "flop"

  • (rolls on floor laughing) I haven't gotten anywhere near the outer suburbs of nasty, dude. Bearcat 06:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

well isn't that nice? ever heard of Valerie Solanas?

Of course I have. She has exactly nothing to do with the matter at hand. Bearcat 06:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

What kind of ocracy would she think was best?

Well, for one thing, she was rather anti-authoritarian, so I think the most honest answer to that question would be no "ocracy" (whatever the hell that is) whatsoever. But I do think it interesting how to certain people, a woman who has issues with men is suddenly a symptom of a dangerous social phenomenon, whereas a man who hates women is just a man who hates women. Funny, that.
Bottom line: a word which gets 65 Google hits is not getting its own Wikipedia article; that's explicitly spelled out in Wikipedia's policy. You'll still be banned for at least 24 hours if you edit heterophobia again. And I will not debate this matter with you any further. This is the end of this discussion. Any further comments on my talk page will be removed. Bearcat 06:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] William "Duke" Procter

Man, you made some great points on this. I would have loved to have said it, but I keep getting warnings about confronting that nom. On a different note, considering you are Canadian, would you take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ayden Scheim. I voted keep, but notability is not easy to judge. -- JJay 04:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks kindly for the heads-up. I definitely had to weigh in there. I agree that he's kind of a borderline case, but for me he's at least marginally on the keep side too. Bearcat 05:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem. I saw what you wrote and thought you again made some great comments. The article needs improvement but Scheim seems to have made a mark for someone so young. But besides all that, the ignorance about Canada displayed in some of these votes really annoys me and should be countered. -- JJay 05:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] University of Ottawa

I saw your name in the history of the article, so I thought I would ask you. Does a neutrality tag have to remain until the dispute of the article is resolved? I put one on the article, and another user removed it. Ardenn 23:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I Have a Little Bit of Extra Information about TVOntario

I have a little bit of extra information about TVOntario, but it isn't much.

For a time, a special service was launched and carried at least in various parts of the country. It was called Galaxie (and it's not the same Galaxie that provides all-music channels on digital cable and satellite). From what I was able to read from various sources, it was launched in 1979 and it broadcast various programs that normally aired on TVO at the time, such as "Polka Dot Door" and "Today's Special" just to name a few. The broadcasting hours were usually in the morning and afternoon of the day.

Here's a couple of links to TV listings from the St. John's area from August 1984...

August 4, 1984: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board.php?Post=545721&Board=tv-classic

August 8, 1984: http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board.php?Post=545610&Board=tv-classic

I don't know exactly when it ended, but it might have been around the period when YTV began broadcasting (or sometime before then).

Oh, and I forgot to add: Galaxie was a coalition between TVO and Rogers Cable.

And there are a few links that you can view with some mentions of TVO and Galaxie...

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/1984/PB84-81.HTM http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/1984/PB84-138.HTM http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Notices/1987/PB87-260.HTM

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/1984/DB84-805.HTM http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/1985/DB85-496.HTM http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/1985/DB85-1237.htm http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/1987/DB87-903.HTM

MapleLeafFan04 17:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)