Talk:Beaujolais nouveau

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[edit] pictures

Photos of empty bottles are scarcely pictures of this article's subject.91.125.30.12 20:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Merging

It's apparently been suggested (for a few months now) that we merge "Beaujolais Day" into this article. (Since the only thing that Beaujolais Day really says is that it's the day when the Beaujolais goes on sale, it wouldn't be much of a merge - it may already be all contained here.) I haven't seen any discussion, so I'll go ahead and stick my head out: yes, I think it should be merged. The article about the day is unlikely to ever be much more than a sentence or two long, and its notability apart from the wine seems a bit questionable. A merge and redirect seems to make sense here. --TheOtherBob 02:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Done - and I've rewritten this article to boot. Now that we have a distinct Beaujolais wine article I can see an argument for just merging the two, but coming at it from a Wine Project perspective I would be against that, this article can focus more on BN as an "event".

Needs more references - most of my books are pretty skimpy on the subject. Also could do with more photos of BN as an event - unlike most wine articles we should be able to illustrate this article with advertising materials, photos of the 'races', that kind of thing, really we should need no more than one pic of a bottle. I'd love to find some hard references on the history - when did Duboeuf first sell BN?

I've also seen comments along the lines that it may have been a short-term fix, but has harmed the long-term reputation of the cru wines, which represent a better long-term future for the region. Certainly my sense is that BN is now feeling a bit passé, having peaked (in the UK at least) in the late 80's. Would be nice to incorporate some of that stuff into the article, suitably referenced. And if anyone has some memorable quotes from wine critics, they could go in the 'style' section, I'm sure there must have been some bon mots on the subject.

One other thing - the original article said that only Gamay was permitted. Given that most of the appellations allow some Pinot, I find that a little surprising, although in practice you wouldn't expect Pinot to be wasted on BN. Anyone got a source for that? Presumably the 1985 law is probably the place to look?? FlagSteward 17:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)