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[edit] Discussion

Why is she a gay icon? --SPUI (talk) 02:09, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Because she's big and ballsy and has a history in Broadway. See her character as "Maude" and Auntie Mame: very gay-iconic characters. Moncrief 02:11, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm, something about that should be in the article then. --SPUI (talk) 02:17, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Beatrice Arthur never got along with Betty White during the filming of The Golden Girls? Where is the proof?

I second that, I've never heard anything like that before. Gershwinrb 03:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gay icon

While its good a source was added to this article (at loooong last), to support this, it actually doesn't fully support the whole paragraph it's attached to. It should be possible to find all the necessary sources to back everything. Also, this uses the classic weasel words. The body of the article should explicitly state who says what. It should distinguish between what Arthur says of herself, and what others say about her. Now, I could edit the article to specifically refer the Advocate article, but I'm sure whoever put this gay icon stuff here didn't wish to speak solely about what one publication said (and a relay of a few others). It's probably best those pushing interested in the gay icon angle do this themselves. --Rob 06:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Star Trek: Voyager appearance

The IMDb claims [1] that Arthur appeared in the Star Trek: Voyager episode "Cold Fire" as the voice of Suspiria; however, IMDb is notorious for being inaccurate. Furthermore, no other reliable source credits her with the role or even mentions it in background info and if you watch the episode, it's fairly apparent that it's not Arthur's distinctive voice. Therefore, the category (and any mention of her appearing in the episode) should be left out of the article. -- SmokeDetector47( TALK ) 04:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

It's now Bea Arthur, it's Majel Barret Roddenberry (Who also provides the voice for the Computer, Any link bumpers between two parters and played the Nurse in the Origanal series and Troy's mother in Next Gen and DS9. However Bea and the Rose White have a very breif apperence in Voyager epesode "Future's End" when the ship travels to modern day Earth and moniter TV channels a snipped of the Golden Girls is shown. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Djarra (talk • contribs) 14:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] What's with all the links

Why all the links on this page. It is almost like any word that is in the Wiki has been linked. voice, wit, parents, volunteered, female, television, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, community, husband and this is only the first three paragraphs. Lumberjack Steve 19:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 03:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marriages

Are these dates correct? Was Arthur secretly married to another man for 7 years during her marriage to Gene Saks?Jdfox 06:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steaming up windows

Where is the proof that "even in her eighties, she still steams up windows across America"? --Wikismile 20:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] She was a Marine?

List of famous U.S. Marines mentions Mrs. Arthur as a famous Marine. If it's true, the article should mention it; if not, she should be removed from that list. --Johnny (Cuervo) 08:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

According to this source: http://www.corpsstories.com/ArthurBea.htm she was a recruit during WW2 Surfeited 08:38, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Good looking out. Odd, though; the Navy handles all our medical stuff nowadays. I don't know about back then. --76.227.80.87 03:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] friars club association

Almost every Comedy Central friars club Roast shows her somewhere in the crowd and even roasting someone. I was wondering if she may have some sort of formal or informal association with the club and hoping that someone may shed some light on this area of her life.

[edit] PETA Gore Ad

Is Bea Arthur one of the people decapetated and skinned in a PETA ad currently running in the UK (in Cinema's with an 18 Cert film) ? It looks like her but is hard to tell. The whole thing is very strange.Djarra 16:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] image

does anyone think their should be a new image, the one ae the moment looks horrible —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.141.92 (talk) 16:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] image

i have uploaded a better image, buti do not know how to put it on herpage. Can someone else do it, just press undo in the history page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patkirkwoood (talk • contribs) 21:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

"I have studied the user" in the edit summary makes no sense. How have you done that? The image description page lacks the basic details needed to fulfil our criteria for fair use. The image comes from beatrice.arthur.com and there is nothing on the site to say who took the photo or who owns the copyright. How is it that you have "studied the user"? This is not good enough. We have a free image of her and although it's older, her appearance has not changed very much. It is against policy to remove an image that we know is free and safe to use - and can prove is free and safe to use - and replace it with an image that is listed for deletion, that has questionable copyright and that may or may not be free. If it is free PROVE it to the standard required by Wikipedia's policies BEFORE you add it. It's not enough to just make a vague edit summary. Also you continue to force the unfree image into the article. I have explained why this is not acceptable, so if you continue to do it, I will consider it as vandalism. Please make yourself familiar with Wikipedia:Copyright, Wikipedia:Fair use and any other related articles or policy pages that these pages refer to. Rossrs (talk) 23:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance listings

These seem way too extensive to me. Do we really need a selective list of every place that Arthur's one-woman show has played, or guest appearances on talk shows? Unless someone can provide a good rationale, I'm going to go ahead and trim both these areas. Gusworld (talk) 04:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birthdate

It seems to be a dispute between 1922 and 1923, and I've linked to a scan of her birth certificate. If anyone has any better evidence, please produce it. Meanwhile, there are better things to do than bicker over one year in the lifetime of a venerable actress and nice lady. So 1922 it is, then. --Rodhullandemu 02:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)