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Another horrible article and like Beatlemania I'm slightly at a loss as to what to suggest. It's part dictdef, part analysis of a real, enyclopedic concept, and part (muchly) fan cruft. Needs to be transwikied, trimmed, or merged. I think removing the cruft and merging the encyclopedic stuff somewhere might be best. Second opinions invited. A major problem with this article is that it seems to have degenerated into a list of various editors' remotely-Beatleesque favourite bands. -- Steve (14 March 2006)


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[edit] Beatlesque

This should have citations. No self-publicity, and no POVs. --andreasegde 22:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-dictionary

In order to make this a nondictionary article:

Who has been called Beatlesque? Who was first named? Who first used the name? Why does anyone care? -- Sam

I deleted this entry from the list of "Beatlesque bands" table:

"Slayer: Described The Beatles as their "Dark Masters." Their album Reign in Blood is particularly reminisent of A Hard Day's Night."

For utter ridiculousness. Perhaps it should be over at uncyclopedia. If I am somehow horribly wrong, just correct me.

human 02:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


"Coldplay: Known for their Beatlesque melodies." Uh, bullshit. They don't sound anything alike. The only real connection I can think of is that they're both UK bands. Oh, and that the Beatles made Apple Records while that drooling dunce Chris Martin named his kid Apple. If nobody responds in a week, I'm killing this ridiculous bastardization of a comparison.

Actually I gotta agree with this comparison. As with most brit-rock artists, you can hear beatles influence in 99% of their songs. "The scientist" starts out just like lennon's "imagine". Also, coldplay was heavily influenced by early radiohead, which in turn was heavily influenced by the beatles. Now, coldplay might be terrible and the beatles may be amazing, but that doesnt make coldplay the first terrible band to be influenced by the beatles.

"Singer Liam Gallagher has often been compared to John Lennon in voice and songwriting style."

I like Oasis, but this statement is totally untrue. Of all the articles I've read I've never heard anyone JUSTIFIABLY compare Liam to John Lennon.

[edit] The Monkees

HELLO!?

They were created to parody The Beatles. It doesn´t mean they sounded like them but merely meaníng Beatlesque.--andreasegde 08:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not intentional??

This article says that "It should be noted that some bands (see Oasis), consciously attempted to mimic the Beatles' sound. For the most part, however, the resemblance to The Beatles is not as intentional."

I strongly disagree. These musicians all know precisely when they are deriving from the Beatles.

[edit] cleanup needed

Seriously, this article needs a lot of work. Right now, it looks like a list a couple of music fans brainstormed, not an encyclopedia article. Please see the wikipedia policies on verifiability and original research.

[edit] The Knickerbockers

This article needs refernece to the Knickerbockers and their hit '60s "Lies." It sounds so much like early Beatles music that many people don't realize that it's not actualy by the Beatles.

[edit] Creme Soda

I'm currently listening to Keep It Heavy by Creme Soda, and it sounds Beatlesque. It's mostly an instrumental, but has vocals, though not words.

[edit] Queen

The comparisons to The Beatles as individuals is pointless. What has this to do with being Beatlesque? Certainly not by the definitions mentioned. Signinstranger 16:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I have to agree, the comparisons are ridiculousy far-fetched. The only comparisons that should be noted should be in their music. There's plenty of "eccentric musical geniuses" who died young, that doesn't automatically make them comparable to John Lennon. I see no relevance between those comparisons and the topic of this page. Second, calling Paul "The second musical genius", doesn't seem to have a NPOV . That's coming from a John fan.

[edit] Cleanup

This page is getting to be a drop-in centre for POVs. It needs to be cleaned. --andreasegde 13:11, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I have cleaned out quite a lot of the bands. This is not a fan page, or a self-publicity page. Phrases like: "It has been said", "is quite like" etc. are POVs.

P.S. Put in the track titles, record company, and date of release. --andreasegde 13:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sign in

Apart from one or two people, nobody is signing in. Why not? --andreasegde 19:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaned

This article has been cleaned, but now it needs more evidence that the bands/artists mentioned really are Beatlesque. Comparisons of songs and instrumentation, song titles, vocals, etc. should be included. --andreasegde 11:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

As this has aticle has been given a "Merge" tag, I think it could be merged into The Beatles trivia. Is there anybody out there, or I am talking to myself?....... (Sound of deafening silence). --andreasegde 08:39, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I am merging..... --andreasegde 19:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)