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If you are a beginner or novice at lizards I would reccomend a a leopard gecko,but the bearded dragon is intermediate yeah right!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.28.120 (talk • contribs)

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[edit] Cleanup tag

Article reads like it was written by a fancier. It needs attention from someone who knows about the animals, but also how to craft a proper encyclopedia article. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 08:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It also needs more details on the habitat and life of bearded dragons in the wild, rather than just a guide to beardies as pets. --Soultaco 17:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
The writer talks about mimicking the "waving and head bobbing" behavior, these are territorial displays and should not be mimicked as this causes distress to the animals!
yeah article should focus on the family. Go to Pogona vitticeps for the species mostly kept as a pet. would also like to see more wild info. Oogles 03:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal from opening paragraph

"" They are quickly gaining popularity and may soon be more common pets than Green Iguanas. [citation needed] ""

Removed that.

Some source is needed for that, but seems absurd to me. For anything else, the price difference. Green iguanas are sold often as 'disposable pets' ($15USD), plenty of babies are sold but how many people have 6' iguanas?... Iguanas also rear more babies, mating quads (1m3f) you can get 100+ iguanas a year. Now imagine that you have a ranch. Easy to contain 6' creatures without need of cages, cleaning them, feeding each individual one, etc.

Geckos($5+) also beat the dragon, certainly the breen anole($2+), but also leopard, etc. Needs to be sourced. My opinion would be geckos and iguanas well above bearded --- heck, collared lizard might even have it beat. Ease of breeding and number of offspring being the primary factors to cost, which is the primary factor IMO in "common".

You will also see large regional differences, especially when animals are easily wild-caught relatively close to home. Oogles 03:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

"They shoot blood out of their eyeballs?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.192.186.88 (talk) 21:33, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation not needed

Pogona barbata - Common Bearded P. henrylawsoni - Rankin's P. minima - Western P. minor - Dwarf P. mitchelli - Northwest Bearded P. nullarbor - Nullarbor P. microlepitoda


Pogona vitticeps is the one almost entirely in pet stores and pet trade. Don't really need a 'source' for this, as it's common knowledge. Go to a pet store, look at it. It's Pogona vitticeps prolly. Just google any bearded dragon site to see that, or try to buy one to see that.

Oogles 03:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

It is not common knowledge- a casual viewer would not know this. Because one could quickly learn a fact with some research does not mean that the fact is common knowledge- if it has to be looked up, it should be sourced. Parrotlander (talk) 07:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, Quite one thing to take an average person that knows nothing, and to ackowledge that the species in the overwhelming majority in the pet trade is infact pogona vitticeps. I mean, is this type of source really necessary? Are you saying it's NOT the one in the pet trade? I acknowledge someone who doesn't have have a clue who looks at it sees "a lizard" (a very wide family/species range).

But this is a talk page. Not the article.

Oogles (talk) 07:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Copyedit

In response to copyedit tag, work done on housing section. History Differences Texas Patriot | Talk | Contributions 15:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revamp

I redid almost the entire page. Here are my references, but I don't know how to add citations. Grenard, Steve (1999). The Bearded Dragon. Wiley Publishing, Inc.. ISBN 1-58245-012-9.  http://www.bio.miami.edu/ktosney/file/BDcare.html http://www.anapsid.org/mainlizards.html http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/Nutrition.html http://www.dachiu.com/projects.html http://www.dachiu.com/projects.html http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=17&cat=1796&articleid=2730 http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/impaction/ http://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/sexing/

Also, someone reverted my edit removing a clearly NOT bearded dragon from the page without giving a reason. Learn your lizards before changing things, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.142.181.179 (talk) 02:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

There. References added. Feel free to add 'citation needed' notes and I will add them if someone else does not. 137.142.181.179 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] wikibooks

I put a 'howto' tag on the article, to indicate that it should not be an instruction on caring for this species. A request to move most of this material to wikibooks should be made by one the contributing editors, it would be a shame if the information was simply removed. cygnis insignis 06:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. When I revamped the article a while ago I hadn't looked at many of the other pet pages on here. Not only is this information not appropriate for the wiki, it should also have been under the specific species name instead of just 'bearded dragon'. Live and learn, I guess. 137.142.181.179 (talk) 14:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
The new page is posted at wikibooks here, it needs some improvements. cygnis insignis 23:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adenovirus

Added Adenovirus to the list of diseases, However the autolink to the adeno wiki is mostly about the disease overall. If anyone knows more about it, maybe we can colab a page on Adeno in Bearded Dragons?TariStar (talk) 02:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Feeding

Does anyone else thing that we should split off the "poisonous and dangerous" foods into a sub section of feeding? I feel as thought they are getting lost in the overall of the page. TariStar (talk) 00:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

It could be a good idea. --R O A M A T A A | msg  06:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personaity

"Bearded Dragons can be perfectly happy when kept singly, and in general live very well together if kept in pairs or even small groups with just one male. Keeping two males together above about six months of age is a recipe for disaster however, as they will almost certainly fight, and there may well be bloodshed and even fatality. In pairs/groups one dragon may become bullied and lose-out with regard to food, so wellbeing should always be monitored. In poor/stressful conditions there may be minor skirmishes and it is possible, though rare, that they will nip at each other, causing the loss of toes or even the end of the tail. Some of this can be worked around by having a larger tank and feeding the Dragons separately, such as in a feeder tank outside of the main one[1]."

I'm taking this out and re writing this, it is a pile of crap save for Pogona barbata and even in their case the dominant male will EAT smaller beardies or kill them if he feels challenged. TariStar (talk) 17:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I see, I do not think that this should interupt the visitor's reading. Very well, do what you wish. Just please don't be another editior who behaves like an immiture 12-year old fangirl, no offense. Ellomate (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Ok why is this page, out of all the thousands there are, getting vandanalised on pretty much a daily to weekly basis all of a sudden? Its about a freaking lizard for crying out loud, its hardly the most widespread subject matter. Some people really need to get a life. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)