Talk:Beach volleyball
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[edit] Quick note
The paragraph that discusses the hand signals should probably also include the fourth commonly used signal, which is an open palm. This means that the blocker is going to "block ball", which basically means they'll throw up whatever block is best suited for the set and the beginning swing of the player. I've never edited on wikipedia before so I'll leave it to you guys if you want to make the addition. - Jason
[edit] Uniforms
Currently, the article states:
- "People have pointed out that professional beach volleyball is one of the only sports where female athletes are mandated to wear a uniform which does not exceed a certain size, essentially encouraging a "less is best" approach towards female attire, and argue that it is simply a ploy to market the game for viewership and sponsors."
I have read similar statements often in newspapers. However, I could not find anything in the official FIVB rules to support this. Does anybody know the details? Is there really a rule like this, possibly restricted to some competitions? -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- The 2004 Olympic uniform guidelines certainly have maximum clothing requirements. These probably don't apply directly to (eg) the 2005 World Tour, but I strongly suspect the FIVB would introduce some if they felt that the women were wearing "too much" (to put it somewhat crudely) --Pak21 18:08, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks; that is what I was looking for. I see that the women are not required to wear a bikini, so I changed the caption accordingly. I also changed "one of the only" to "one of the few" in the above fragment, but left the rest for the moment (I share Pak21's suspicions). -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 18:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Surveys have shown...
- Surveys have shown that the majority of male spectators at womens beach volleyball events enjoy looking at the attractive and scantily-clad players far more than the sporting action in itself, another observation that critics like to frequently point out.
Where do we find these surveys? -Willmcw 01:04, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Use of the pics
Hello,
I would like to use one pic for my homepage (see http://www.ambiente-ferienwohnung.de/x_freizeit.htm#sport). I will remove the pic, if the provider will not allow to use it for the page.
Regards Boris
[edit] Expert Information Request
Can someone add info on 1.) When scoring switched to Rally scoring; 2.) What years 4 man or woman teams where used; 3.) Whether they have switched from strict double elimination to modified double elimination until the winners and losers brackets each had 2 teams left; and 4.) How the length of the season has changed. TonyTheTiger 18:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Which organisation are you referring to? Personally, I wouldn't say that (3) or (4) are particularly notable unless there's something I don't know about here. Cheers --Pak21 20:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
FIVB went to rally scoring in 2000 basically to make the game more TV friendly, especially with the Olympics in mind. The AVP, the U.S. pro tour, followed suit as did everyone else. At this time the long court was also scrapped in favor of the current 8m x 8m short court. 4-man (4-person co-ed) is still used in some locally-run tournaments, but it was more prevalent in the old "Parks and Rec" days along the Southern California beaches in the 1940s through 1970s. Main draw tournaments generally are double elimination, with a first loss resulting in reseeding in the loser's bracket. A second loss once in the loser's bracket and you're done. But you could still lose only one match and be out, if the loss occurs in the tournament semi-finals or finals. In the AVP, there is also a single elimination play-in round before the main draw starts called the qualifier. The FIVB generally uses this format but with slight alterations. Its events include country qualifiers for non main draw teams the result in reseeding for winners. Check with your local tournament to see how they do it. As for season length, they have generally gotten longer, but again it depends. Many of the top Brazilians for example play nearly year round, as they compete during the northern hemisphere's summer months on the FIVB Tour, then compete in the southern hemisphere's summer months on their own domestic circuit. 208.57.237.112 19:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)Ryan Gray, www.bvmag.com
[edit] Professional
I think this article would really benefit from a section on professional beach volleyball around the world. Links to the major leagues can be put there, as can any important information about those leagues, differences between them, any rankings of quality, etc. matt91486 23:47, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Controversy section lost
A vandal replaced the Controversy section with garbage: [1]. The reverter of the vandalism did not replace the section: [2]. I didn't really like the section anyway, but if the section is not going to be replaced, it would be better done by consensus than in the form of overlooked vandalism. Here's the section:
[edit] Controversy
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Since its introduction as an Olympic sport in 1996, beach volleyball has been the target of some criticism from conservative groups as well as from the governments of certain countries, particularly Islamic nations of the Middle East and South-East Asia, who argue that beach volleyball as it is currently played in the Olympics is too sexualised to be considered a truly respectable sport. They claim that professional beach volleyball is one of the few sports with size restrictions on uniforms. The controversy of the sport hit a new high at the 2004 Olympics, when a DJ played music clips between sets while female dancers in orange bikinis performed for the crowds. Accusations arose that the sport was less respectful than other Olympic events, with some columnists comparing it to a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue spread rather than pure athleticism.
In return, some people argue that the attire common in pole vault and other track and field events at the Olympics is barely any more skin covering, and that only beach volleyball is unfairly singled out for criticism. There are also claims that the uniforms are practical for the sport, since more loose clothing would hinder playing ability and professional tournaments often take place during the high heat of summer. A poll taken among professional women's players prior to the 1996 Olympics showed that a vast majority of players preferred the two piece suit to minimize the trapping of sand in the uniform during intense play.
