User talk:Bcc07

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[edit] Review and comment requested

Could you review the following exchange between contributors to the City College article and help us resolve a dispute? Please post any comment on the BCC talk page, thanks.67knight 11:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Adam, I removed the Barringer High School information as well. It seems more suited for the talk section rather than in an article about the school. As you mentioned, there is a debate going on about the status of which school is third oldest in the country. A debate, as you well know, is talk; but not a part of the school's history.67knight 23:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

The stuff I put on the BCC page was pure fact and nothing more, and it is notable enough to be included in the article, and there's no reason why it shouldn't. Quit reverting my edits, unless you plan to bring an administrator into it.Thx2005 00:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The "stuff" as you refer to it has nothing to do with the history of Baltimore City College. It may be pure fact but it is irrelevant to the school's history. When you debated in high school, did your debates add anything to the history of the subject about which you were debating? We are simply saying the same thing. Debate about an article belongs on the article's talk page. I will ask the particpants of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baltimore City College for their opinions and have them posted over the next few days, please join the debate if you have any concrete reasons why the Barringer info should be retained.67knight 11:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eugene Parker

Did I misread Daneker's book?Marylandstater 16:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Just doing my job, thanks for being so understanding. (FYI: Parker is held in high esteem by City College Athletic Director George Petrides. He still displays a plaque given to Parker that he had found while going thru an old equipment room and there is a picture of Parker hanging in his locker room.)Marylandstater 16:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info Box Change

I recently noticed you changed the info box template, on the City College page, to a University template. If there was a practical reason for doing so please let us know. Generally a major change like that should be discussed within the project first. The new info box is no longer consistent with those of the other Baltimore City public schools, some information did not make it through to the transfer and IMO the page looks bland. Discuss.67knight 21:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Your note on my talk page isn't quite clear about what was referred to in the 1890's. Are saying the school was referred to as "the College"? If so, then I would simply say that reference should go in the history section of the page. The opening paragraph seems to be telling the readers what the school is currently called.
Secondly, I know you love the school and so do I. There are many people out there who have contributed to this article and that is why the project was begun so we can discuss changes. I don't want to be critical, but you keep making major changes without getting a consensus. The recent removal of the "BCC07.jpg" from the info box is an example. I would rather see the school itself when you open this page rather than (with all due respect) Golem88991's ring. The "Cityring.jpg" is already being used in the project template, a clean image of the school is more appropriate for the info box. I don't unnderstand why you would want the ring instead of the great picture of the school (that you created) to be the first thing that the reader sees when looking up City?67knight 19:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell Statutory College Names

The names of the four colleges are set by the New York State Legislature. Please look at NYS Education Law §§ 5711-5715. Racepacket 23:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Please review the webpages: http://www.human.cornell.edu/che/Administration/ http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm The full name is still in frequent use. We should be accurate in listing the full legal name of an institution, although I understand why the indivdual article title is something different to help users find the article. I have no problem with moving the college articles from New York State College... to Cornell University College ... , but we should be accurate in reciting the full college names.Racepacket 05:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Baltimore City College

I would like to nominate this article for Good Article status in the near future. However, before that can happen a couple of key things need to be done to the article.

  • The academic section needs to be expanded.
  • Information about all sports at city college needs to be added.
  • Gaps in the history of city college need to be filled in.
  • Any major extracurricular activities not included need to be added.
  • Any major topics not discussed need to be added
  • Citations need to conform to Wikipedia citation templates.
  • More and varying sources need to be added to the article.

If you could assist with any of these tasks it would be greatly appreciated. Golem88991 03:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DC Meetup notice

Greetings. There is going to be a Washington DC Wikipedia meetup on next Saturday, July 21st at 5pm in DC. Since you are listed in Category:Wikipedians_in_Maryland, I thought I'd invite you to come. I'm sorry about the short notice for the meeting. Hopefully we'll do somewhat better in that regard next time. If you can't come but want to make sure that you are informed of future meetings be sure to list yourself under "but let me know about future events", and if you don't want to get any future direct notices \(like this one\), you can list yourself under "I'm not interested in attending any others either" on the DC meetup page.--Gmaxwell 00:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK:History of Baltimore City College

Wanted to let you know that the history of Baltimore City College was in the did you know section of the main page on 22 July 2007. Congratulations Baltimore City College WikiProject! Golem88991 02:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Call to Arms

The history of Baltimore City College has been nominated as a Good Article, however its nomination is currently on hold. Please contribute to the article so that it will pass the nomination. To view the reasons that it was put on hold go to the article's talk page. Golem88991 01:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help; we did it. The History of Baltimore City College is now officially a good article. Golem88991 02:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] City in popular culture

Although I think that the info you added in this section is a cool tidbit, I do not think it is notable. Would you mind if I removed it? Golem88991 19:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC Nom

If you are going to nominate the History of Baltimore City College then you need to complete the process as outlined on the WP:FAC page. Golem88991 17:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I saw the tag on the article, but the process is not complete. Go to WP:FAC and read the nomination process. The article still needs a discussion page and its name added to the list of FAC articles. Golem88991 18:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad Golem88991 18:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I have a feeling it will not get it, but at least this may be a more effective way to get criticism because nobody is commenting on the peer review. Golem88991 18:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It is not an historic landmark. I checked the 2007 list. Golem88991 14:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bancroft and Carrollton

Check out the bancroft article when you get a chance. Golem88991 19:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible improvements to Alumni page

I am working on creating a table-type-list for the alumni page. The advantage is that it would be sortable. A researcher could take a look with all entries sort it alphabetically, or by Category or by year of graduation. I have done about a fifth of the names, but before I continued i wanted to get your input on whether you like it, what headings you might change etc. anyway here it is:

Category Class Alumni Reasoning for notability
GovGovernors of Maryland MandelMarvin Mandel 56th Governor, Maryland
GovGovernors of Maryland 1939 SchaeferWilliam Donald Schaefer 44th Mayor, Baltimore City, 60th Governor, Maryland, 32nd Comptroller of the State of Maryland
GovGovernors of Maryland MckeldinTheodore R. McKeldin 53rd Governor, Maryland
GovGovernors of Maryland NiceHarry Nice 50th Governor, Maryland

Each emtry can be shaded but so far I have only shaded the two polticians using a political-shading-template of blue for democrats and pink for republicans. Also, when you click on the knobs you can see how the table sorts it self. Of course, I will have to get the years of graduation for most of the folks, I already knew of schmoke and anderson cause they were in my class. Also it gives more flexibility when entering a new find because you dont have to stick to the rigid categories like putting a record label owner in the television section; and it isnt hard to edit, just copy the last name once you have gone to the edit page and replace the appropriate information from the newly found notable. Hit me on my talk page with comments.67knight 06:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing Alumni Page

I have finished the sortable table and placed it on the alumni page. When you edit you can use the following (click edit page first to view):

Category Class Alumni Reasoning for notability
GovGovernors of Maryland MandelMarvin Mandel 56th Governor, Maryland
insert Categoryinsert category again 1939 alumni, last name firstalumni first name first, then last name notability comments to be inserted here

I think it looks good and editing should be a snap. I will continue to get years of graduation to fill in those blanks. If you know any of them already just fill them in. 67knight 22:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let's loose the shading, it wasn't that important, I just liked it on the other list I saw (See featured list: Current members of the Maryland House of Delegates) and thought it would be good for us.
With regard to the order, the purpose of a sortable list is to have any order the viewer wants. Click the tab next to alumni and the list is ordered A to Z, click it again and the list is Z to A. Click on year and you get the first notable graduate(assuming we get all the years in) and click on year again you get the last notable graduate in terms of when he graduated. The order that the list defaults to is simply the order I edited. If you want to change that order, it should be a simple cut and paste (rearranging all the whole entries), but to change the order of the categories, it would take a monumental effort because you would have to change the category in every entry as well. I do not object to any of this. I will continue getting dates of graduation and conforming the cites to wiki conventions. I am just happy you like the idea. If you do change the categories, let us know so we don't edit the page while you are working on them, those edit conflicts can be a b*tch. Also you may want to make the changes you suggest on your talk page and transfer the whole thing when you are finished. Your changes could take two weeks or more based on how long it took me to create the table.67knight 19:40, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alumni list

Thanks for referring me to the Michighan list. Although it is very neat and very exclusive (all alumni listed have their own pages) it seems rather cumbersome. One would be hard pressed to find the oldest notable alumni by looking at that list. Also if you only had a last name, you would have to look through each section in order to find the person you were looking for. What I have been doing is placing all the names in aphabetical order by category. That way, editing is a little easier and at first glance the list seems to have an order to it. But I really do like the sortable feature because it does let you find who you want with ease. 67knight 00:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, any of those pictures below usable in the history or city college article?
And why are we calling our alumni page List of City College People. The use of the term "people" on the Michighan page fits because it includes administrators, and coaches. Ours is pure alumni. I am for changing it to "Notable Alumni of the Baltimore City College". 67knight 01:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] War Plaque Image

I did not mean to fool around with the image that you added to the history page. I just waqs trying to make it conform w/ WP:MOS. Golem88991 19:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Good idea, thanks Golem88991 19:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Do you think we should just give it a separate section? Golem88991 19:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I do not think in the case of Michigan they left it on both pages. The other comment I would make is that I think they did a chart because they did not have an image of the school for the period they were addressing but I do not know. However, either the image or the chart needs to be moved. Not removed, but moved so that the text is not sandwiched in between the two. Golem88991 19:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

for use on BCC related articles

Knightsbasketball.JPG
Sam Brown #20
class of 1967
Ring
bcc
Curtains
City auditorium
I will delete all of these from your talk page in a week if you dont want them
Varsity Letter
sports
yearbook
bcc
Flag Sqad
1995

67knight 16:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lead for History of Baltimore City College

I am having a hard time rewriting the lead, can you help?

[edit] Extracurriculars

Thanks, this section has been needed for quite sometime. Good work! Golem88991 14:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I will do a copy edit later today. Golem88991 14:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baltimore City College Football

You are kidding, right? 67knight 21:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent vandalism

Is there a reason why you continue to remove images from the List of Baltimore City College people page? You have left no edit comments that explain your actions, nor have you advised me or any other members of the city college project why you are removing images. 67knight 04:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I apologize if you think I am being uncooperative. I did not edit on the pages that you and Golem edit becuase I did not have access to the references you had. I added to the alumni page after I obtained copies of leonhardt and marudas' books and access to various Greenbags and searched the Maryland archives. You guys were doing your thing, I did mine. Also my style of prose is different from Golem's so I did not help out on the history page except for some early factual additions. But now you seem so angry, simply because of a few requests I made of you on the original article. I am not trying to lead, have never ordered anyone to do anything, I have always worked to build a consensus.67knight 20:04, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BCC Wikiproject Inactivity

I am working to reinvigorate the project. Any suggestions you may have would be helpful. Let's get some momentum going again. Golem88991 05:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medal of Honor

Even if the source says that there are only 6 recipients of the medal of honor from the state of MD, it is not true. There are far more than 6 medal of honor recipients from MD [1]. Now it is possible that the article meant to say that we had 3 of the 6 medal of honor recipients from Maryland during WWII, but that statement is not correct either, since Henry Gilbert Costin was awarded the medal of honor during WWI. Golem88991 21:19, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Green Bag

The origin on the name is unclear, you can refer to this article from the Maryland state archives [2]. While the reason the year book is called the Green bag is correct the part about the derivation being unclear refers to the term green bag, which is unknown. Golem88991 23:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Uncle Tom

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Uncle Tom, is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are already familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add your original reference to the article. See also: Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. —72.75.79.128 09:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baltimore City College football

I moved the table of contents to eliminate the large gap in the beginning of the article. Since there is a specific wiki template {{skiptotoctalk}} to allow for this, I do not think it violates any editing conventions. If you think it should be moved back, please open a discussion on the talk page to avoid any future conflicts. 67knight 02:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baltimore City College

Hi, congratulations on getting Baltimore City College to FA status! Just before it got promoted, I added a comment, which it seems likely you won't notice now. I wanted to let you know that I finally looked at the images and I think that the two images in the publications section cannot be used as fair use. Under the fair use guidelines, the particular issue that is pictured must be discussed in the article, and that is not the case for either of these. You may want to look into this, because if the article is ever placed on the front page you will definitely get a lot of people complaining about it. Karanacs (talk) 05:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cornell Wikipedia Meetup?

I will be attending Reunion on June 6-8, and I thought we could organize a Wikipedia gathering. Perhaps immediately following the Quill and Dagger and Sphinx Head breakfasts on Sunday morning. Are you interested? Racepacket (talk) 23:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia meetup

As someone who may live or work near Washington D.C., you may be interested - if you've not heard already - about the meetup scheduled for Saturday, May 17th, at Union Station. For details, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 4.

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