Talk:BC Place Stadium

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[edit] Dome collapse

This JUST happened at roughly 12:50pm PST - Jan 5th 2008

 - part of the roof has suffered a failure and collapsed inward.

Early in the development of this story, there appears to be a lot of unsupported assertions about the nature of the collapse, location of damage, cutting of power,gfjfgjfget etc. This needs to be cited somewhere. If someone has a link to an article to substantiate this, please cite. pbryan 22:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[National Post]

[edit] NO IT DID NOT COLLAPSE

Enough with the hysterical exaggerations. The roof was intentional deflated due to a torn fabric panel. I expect misinformation from the mainstream media, but is it too much to ask of Wikipedia too stick to the facts about what actually happened.


Also:

(quote from BCPlaceStadium.com):

Vancouver, BC, January 5, 2007) – Early this afternoon a portion of the roof at BC Place Stadium was damaged and subsequently deflated. Beyond the bad weather, no direct cause for this incident has yet been determined. Emergency personnel were notified immediately to assess the threat. The complete building has been evacuated and surrounding roads have been closed. “Public safety and security is our priority and any threat of this nature is taken seriously,” said Howard Crosley, General Manager at BC Place Stadium. “Our staff executed the evacuation procedure efficiently and effectively.” More information will be posted on the BC Place Stadium website (www.bcplacestadium.com) as soon as it is available. Further information will be made available to the media by 2PM.

Sandtrooper 22:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

According to AM 980, a small rip in the fabric led to the collapse of the roof. They stated that it was a controlled deflation of the roof to prevent any injury to personnel on the turf at the time.WoodenFeet 22:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

From the BC Place website:

BC Place Stadium roof panel suffers repairable tear

Vancouver, BC - At 1PM today, there was a tear in the west panel of the roof at BC Place Stadium. The cause of the tear has yet to be determined.

Howard Crosley, General Manager at BC Place Stadium, said:

“Because of the tear, we activated a controlled deflation of the stadium roof. Everyone in the building was evacuated safely and the public were not in danger at any time.”

“We are currently assessing the damage. Our major concern right now is the water accumulation if it continues to rain and snow, but we are addressing this issue.”

“The good news is that the tear occurred only in one panel and it is repairable. A replacement panel will be flown in here for early next week.”

“There are no events booked at BC Place for the next 20 days, so at this time we do not anticipate any being affected. It is business as usual.”

“This is the first time in BC Place history that there has been an issue with the roof, which is inspected each year on a regular basis. The last inspection was in August 2006 and the roof was reported to be in good condition.”

WoodenFeet 00:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reason for Collapse

There have been suggestions that the weight of the snow brought down the stadium. From a pure guess, I'm going to suggest that the real reason why the dome came down is because the stadium/roof was de-pressurized.

The tear occured due to unknown reasons. The first response of the Staff, as required, was to increase the power of the fans. This was not productive, and the so fans were made to depressurize the stadium, which allowed for the roof to lower.

[edit] Largest air-supported dome in world

My research indicates BC Place is the largest air-supported domed stadium in the world. Sources include CBC News, other news wires, major sports publishers. It would be nice to find a definitive source to cite. pbryan 07:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I checked some of your sites that Google brought up and they say it "has" been the largest in the world. They don't claim it is any longer. Also how do you qualify "largest"? RCA Dome in the US has a higher capacity. Gateman1997 23:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
This seems pretty definitive: "As the world's largest air supported domed stadium, BC Place is also home to the province's largest trade and consumer shows including the Boat Show, Home Show and Auto Show." (BC Place Stadium official site - click on "About Us" link and view third paragraph). Seems to be expressed in the present tense. Good question about the definition of largest. Largest by air volume? Largest by area? Largest by number of attendees it can cover? pbryan 01:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
It is largest by area Jeffy b 05:01, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Section 16 Image

I took this photo of section 16 in the stadium. Could someone place it where you feel right? I just can't decide. Thanks!--Canadianshoper 04:30, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Bcplacelogo.gif

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[edit] Pressurization

The article currently says "The internal air pressure was three times normal at the time of the tear". Clearly "pressure" here is not meant to include the normal atmospheric pressure, but only the amount of pressurization above that. I suggest substituting a wording including the word "pressurization".

Also -- and this is the reason I don't just fix it -- is "three times normal" correct? The cited reference (the CBC article) has: "Engineer Kris Hamilton, who is conducting a report of the incident, said there was three times more pressure on the roof than there was supposed to be." Three times more than normal is an ambiguous usage today: traditionally it means four times normal, but today many people use it to mean three times normal. So what did Hamilton mean?

All the other reports I can find on the web that go into this detail just quote the same sentence. Does anyone have a cite that mentions that actual pressures, so we can straighten this out? If not, the article should probably be reworded to quote Hamilton as well, ambiguity and all. 207.176.159.90 01:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)